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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://saveourbones.com/osteoporosis-milk-myth/#comment-36032</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 13:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know two different people that have been diagnosed with cancer, and the doctors have put them on a strictly vegetables and meat diet, no dairy. They have had improvements, im not trying to say that they will magically   get better because no dairy, what im saying is that doctors obviously know it will make them worse if they continue to drink cancer...make your own conclusions but to me its obvious</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know two different people that have been diagnosed with cancer, and the doctors have put them on a strictly vegetables and meat diet, no dairy. They have had improvements, im not trying to say that they will magically   get better because no dairy, what im saying is that doctors obviously know it will make them worse if they continue to drink cancer&#8230;make your own conclusions but to me its obvious</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Cross</title>
		<link>http://saveourbones.com/osteoporosis-milk-myth/#comment-35993</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Cross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 13:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have read many scientific studies, and I believe the single most important element contributing to poor health is incomplete digestion. If the body is allowed to completely use up what it takes in, it may use its excess digestive capabilities for body clean-up, and poof, less things in the body to make you sick, you can almost eat what ever you want, if you eat much less of it, while at the same time making sure you get all the nutrients you need so that the metabolic systems have the appropriate levels of the raw ingredients without wasting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have read many scientific studies, and I believe the single most important element contributing to poor health is incomplete digestion. If the body is allowed to completely use up what it takes in, it may use its excess digestive capabilities for body clean-up, and poof, less things in the body to make you sick, you can almost eat what ever you want, if you eat much less of it, while at the same time making sure you get all the nutrients you need so that the metabolic systems have the appropriate levels of the raw ingredients without wasting.</p>
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		<title>By: cassie</title>
		<link>http://saveourbones.com/osteoporosis-milk-myth/#comment-35983</link>
		<dc:creator>cassie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 06:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, well I am almost 70 and I drink at least a pint of milk a day.When I can a quart. And I find the milk better than taking calcium. I swear by milk and I find the old fashioned milk unhomoginized with the cream on top. yummy. I love milk</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, well I am almost 70 and I drink at least a pint of milk a day.When I can a quart. And I find the milk better than taking calcium. I swear by milk and I find the old fashioned milk unhomoginized with the cream on top. yummy. I love milk</p>
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		<title>By: cassie</title>
		<link>http://saveourbones.com/osteoporosis-milk-myth/#comment-35984</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 06:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, well I am almost 70 and I drink at least a pint of milk a day.When I can a quart. And I find the milk better than taking calcium. I swear by milk and I find the old fashioned milk unhomoginized with the cream on top. yummy. I love milk</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, well I am almost 70 and I drink at least a pint of milk a day.When I can a quart. And I find the milk better than taking calcium. I swear by milk and I find the old fashioned milk unhomoginized with the cream on top. yummy. I love milk</p>
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		<title>By: Mara Grilanc</title>
		<link>http://saveourbones.com/osteoporosis-milk-myth/#comment-35979</link>
		<dc:creator>Mara Grilanc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 03:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I drink (limited quantitis) Goat&#039;s Milk.    Is this O.K.?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I drink (limited quantitis) Goat&#8217;s Milk.    Is this O.K.?</p>
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		<title>By: Ray Kalita</title>
		<link>http://saveourbones.com/osteoporosis-milk-myth/#comment-35966</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray Kalita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2012 02:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I am 74 years old.  My wife is 71 years old. We have been drinking cows milk since about 3 years old.  We drank raw milk until about age 22 when we gave up the cows. We both drink cows milk today, but unfortunately it is store milk (pasturized, etc.  can&#039;t get raw milk).  My wife drinks less milk than I do these days.  I typically drink about a quart a day, and in the hot summer days sometimes a gallon or more a day.  I have never had a broken or fractured bone in my life, despite all the hard knocks I have had over the years.  My wife had a bone density test a few years back, and they found her bones to be excellent.  So, based on our experience, I say bunk to your studies.  I would believe that with all the medical studies today, they are flawed.  They fail to take into account other circumstances that may contribute to their results.  Quite often, further studies determine just the opposite effect.  Like I said. Modern studies fail to meed exacting standards when they are performed. It seems that the researches fail to remember their college lab tests required rigorous standards when they are performed.  Or is this not a requirement today?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I am 74 years old.  My wife is 71 years old. We have been drinking cows milk since about 3 years old.  We drank raw milk until about age 22 when we gave up the cows. We both drink cows milk today, but unfortunately it is store milk (pasturized, etc.  can&#8217;t get raw milk).  My wife drinks less milk than I do these days.  I typically drink about a quart a day, and in the hot summer days sometimes a gallon or more a day.  I have never had a broken or fractured bone in my life, despite all the hard knocks I have had over the years.  My wife had a bone density test a few years back, and they found her bones to be excellent.  So, based on our experience, I say bunk to your studies.  I would believe that with all the medical studies today, they are flawed.  They fail to take into account other circumstances that may contribute to their results.  Quite often, further studies determine just the opposite effect.  Like I said. Modern studies fail to meed exacting standards when they are performed. It seems that the researches fail to remember their college lab tests required rigorous standards when they are performed.  Or is this not a requirement today?</p>
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		<title>By: Marty</title>
		<link>http://saveourbones.com/osteoporosis-milk-myth/#comment-35964</link>
		<dc:creator>Marty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 23:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To clarify my previous post..I was referring to raw milk only,...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To clarify my previous post..I was referring to raw milk only,&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Marty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 20:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Foolish doctor..Read the latest study on  raw milk in the Amish community, may of  2012....dr crewe,  one of the  &quot;founders&quot; of the Mayo clinic, has over 10,000 documented casses of people on raw milk &quot;only&quot; diets and how the vast majority were helped..the facts go on and on and are easily found throughout the Internet...the best raw milk is from jersey cows....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Foolish doctor..Read the latest study on  raw milk in the Amish community, may of  2012&#8230;.dr crewe,  one of the  &#8220;founders&#8221; of the Mayo clinic, has over 10,000 documented casses of people on raw milk &#8220;only&#8221; diets and how the vast majority were helped..the facts go on and on and are easily found throughout the Internet&#8230;the best raw milk is from jersey cows&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisyT</title>
		<link>http://saveourbones.com/osteoporosis-milk-myth/#comment-35953</link>
		<dc:creator>ChrisyT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 05:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just need to chime in here. Some flaws in a lot of the logic in the comments. What food was designed for humans to eat? Nope. It doesn&#039;t work that way. We are animals. We evolved to eat what was in the environment we live in not the other way around. No one put stuff here intentionally for us. Sorry, not just my atheist point of view, scientific fact. Plants and animals adapt to their environment for their own survival, not the other way around. 

And as humans, we have the advantage of being able to find ways to survive that other species do not. We are smart enough to know how to take milk from another animal to ensure our survival. Notice I said survival and did not say that milk was an optimal intended food. We can injest a lot of things but it doesn&#039;t mean that we should. 

Since we are designed to seek out energy to keep us alive, we eat what is available to us. Because there&#039;s no such thing as a food desined for a human (aside from breast milk for babies, which comes from us) there is also no such thing as a food that is 100% optimal for human survival. Actually if there was, our bodies would never break down and we&#039;d live forever. There are however foods that do less damage than others, and those are the ones we should stick to. 

It seems the civilized world is stuck in this high protien brain-wash cycle. I hear a lot of people defending milk using the argument that they grew up on a farm and great Aunt Tilly lived to be 102.... Well great. Here&#039;s one for you, I live on a farm and I&#039;m going to point out the other detail that you&#039;ve failed to include with your dairy declaration: People who live on farms eat more fresh produce than anyone else and get more exercise from their daily activitie. People who live in the country tend to have less access to BAD processed foods than urban people. And this is especially true in the age groups you are talking about. People in their 80&#039;s, 90&#039;s or people who lived to be 100 until passing recently. I guarantee you these people have had less exposure to processed foods than anyone growing up now. Your average person just does not eat the same way these people spent the majority of their lives eating. Compare the rates of obesiety of these generations when they were in their 30&#039;s or 40&#039;s to the rate of the same age group now. These people you are citing overall were people with healthier diets.

We are omnivoires by design, yes, for survival, not for pleasure. A frightning majority of people now eat like it&#039;s a hobby. If our ancestors could live well off the vegetation around them, likely they would have no desire to undertake the difficult task of trying to hunt down or milk another animal. Dairy as a food group exists only because of our mastery of technology as do a lot of other things that are totally crap for you to consume. Technology has made our food more plentiful but in most cases, not of better quality. 

Again, we are animals. Our mastery of technology has allowed us to produce enough food to feed a population we otherwise could not feed, but it has done so at the cost of food quality. We do a lot of things that prohibit the process of natural selection. We pump medicines into people with genetic flaws, they pass those genes on to their children and we become a population overrun with diseases that nature would have eliminated long ago. Now I&#039;m not saying those people should just give up and die, what I&#039;m saying is technology has taken us so far away from nature that it&#039;s really no surprise we can no longer figure out what we&#039;re supposed to eat. If you think your health conditions are not related to what you put into your body, you could not be more wrong. You literally are made of what you eat. So when you try to debunk a study that suggests that populations who consume the highest amounts of dairy have the most disease of any populations by claiming their are other factors to consider, you can&#039;t just throw away that one huge unifying factor. These people are putting large amounts of dairy into their bodies. Its the most direct exposure you can get. It&#039;s not a myth. 

And yeah, doctors can be wrong too. They don&#039;t all spend their time super focused on nutrition studies. A lot of them benefit greatly from prescribing as many drugs as they can. Heck, my dad, who lives on a farm and has his whole life and eats large amounts of high fat cream just enjoyed a quintuple bypass 2 years ago. Yep. Quintuple. Didn&#039;t even know they did that many but that&#039;s what the doctor said. When we asked what kind of diet my dad should follow he told him to eat whatever he wanted and then prescribed cholesterol pills and high blood pressure pills, a steroid inhaler to go along with the epilepsy medication he was already on. I mean, are you kidding me? You just rerouted 90% clogged arteries and you gave this man carte blanche to go back to the whipping cream and butter factory? I was pretty sure we put that saturated fat is bad argument to bed a long time ago. 

But before I get too off topic with that... Remember about 100 years ago when doctors said smoking was good for you? Yeah, they figured that one out eventually too. 

And it&#039;s really not a conspiracy theory. If you just follow the dairy council dollars, it becomes very clear there&#039;s an agenda to PUSH dairy products. Just like there&#039;s an agenda to PUSH high fructose corn syrup. They&#039;re things we really don&#039;t need but there&#039;s a profit to be made so.....

Oh yeah. I&#039;m also a vegan. I tried it after being very critical of that lifestyle  I decided if I was going to criticize it, I&#039;d better make sure I understood it. So I challenged myself to try it for a month. I&#039;ve never looked back. I&#039;ve also never felt so good in my life. If you want to criticize a Vegan, I challenge you to try it for a month. Really try it. The right way. Fruit, veg, legumes and grains. It won&#039;t hurt you. You might learn something. And if you don&#039;t like it, you&#039;ve lost nothing and gained an actual justified opinion. Just sayin. If you haven&#039;t tried it, shut yer yap.

And read the China Study. It&#039;s full of this stuff called common sense and scientific research. It also acknowledges all this &quot;statistics can be twisted to support anything&quot; garbage you all keep spouting. Of course, if you&#039;d actually read the book you might know that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just need to chime in here. Some flaws in a lot of the logic in the comments. What food was designed for humans to eat? Nope. It doesn&#8217;t work that way. We are animals. We evolved to eat what was in the environment we live in not the other way around. No one put stuff here intentionally for us. Sorry, not just my atheist point of view, scientific fact. Plants and animals adapt to their environment for their own survival, not the other way around. </p>
<p>And as humans, we have the advantage of being able to find ways to survive that other species do not. We are smart enough to know how to take milk from another animal to ensure our survival. Notice I said survival and did not say that milk was an optimal intended food. We can injest a lot of things but it doesn&#8217;t mean that we should. </p>
<p>Since we are designed to seek out energy to keep us alive, we eat what is available to us. Because there&#8217;s no such thing as a food desined for a human (aside from breast milk for babies, which comes from us) there is also no such thing as a food that is 100% optimal for human survival. Actually if there was, our bodies would never break down and we&#8217;d live forever. There are however foods that do less damage than others, and those are the ones we should stick to. </p>
<p>It seems the civilized world is stuck in this high protien brain-wash cycle. I hear a lot of people defending milk using the argument that they grew up on a farm and great Aunt Tilly lived to be 102&#8230;. Well great. Here&#8217;s one for you, I live on a farm and I&#8217;m going to point out the other detail that you&#8217;ve failed to include with your dairy declaration: People who live on farms eat more fresh produce than anyone else and get more exercise from their daily activitie. People who live in the country tend to have less access to BAD processed foods than urban people. And this is especially true in the age groups you are talking about. People in their 80&#8242;s, 90&#8242;s or people who lived to be 100 until passing recently. I guarantee you these people have had less exposure to processed foods than anyone growing up now. Your average person just does not eat the same way these people spent the majority of their lives eating. Compare the rates of obesiety of these generations when they were in their 30&#8242;s or 40&#8242;s to the rate of the same age group now. These people you are citing overall were people with healthier diets.</p>
<p>We are omnivoires by design, yes, for survival, not for pleasure. A frightning majority of people now eat like it&#8217;s a hobby. If our ancestors could live well off the vegetation around them, likely they would have no desire to undertake the difficult task of trying to hunt down or milk another animal. Dairy as a food group exists only because of our mastery of technology as do a lot of other things that are totally crap for you to consume. Technology has made our food more plentiful but in most cases, not of better quality. </p>
<p>Again, we are animals. Our mastery of technology has allowed us to produce enough food to feed a population we otherwise could not feed, but it has done so at the cost of food quality. We do a lot of things that prohibit the process of natural selection. We pump medicines into people with genetic flaws, they pass those genes on to their children and we become a population overrun with diseases that nature would have eliminated long ago. Now I&#8217;m not saying those people should just give up and die, what I&#8217;m saying is technology has taken us so far away from nature that it&#8217;s really no surprise we can no longer figure out what we&#8217;re supposed to eat. If you think your health conditions are not related to what you put into your body, you could not be more wrong. You literally are made of what you eat. So when you try to debunk a study that suggests that populations who consume the highest amounts of dairy have the most disease of any populations by claiming their are other factors to consider, you can&#8217;t just throw away that one huge unifying factor. These people are putting large amounts of dairy into their bodies. Its the most direct exposure you can get. It&#8217;s not a myth. </p>
<p>And yeah, doctors can be wrong too. They don&#8217;t all spend their time super focused on nutrition studies. A lot of them benefit greatly from prescribing as many drugs as they can. Heck, my dad, who lives on a farm and has his whole life and eats large amounts of high fat cream just enjoyed a quintuple bypass 2 years ago. Yep. Quintuple. Didn&#8217;t even know they did that many but that&#8217;s what the doctor said. When we asked what kind of diet my dad should follow he told him to eat whatever he wanted and then prescribed cholesterol pills and high blood pressure pills, a steroid inhaler to go along with the epilepsy medication he was already on. I mean, are you kidding me? You just rerouted 90% clogged arteries and you gave this man carte blanche to go back to the whipping cream and butter factory? I was pretty sure we put that saturated fat is bad argument to bed a long time ago. </p>
<p>But before I get too off topic with that&#8230; Remember about 100 years ago when doctors said smoking was good for you? Yeah, they figured that one out eventually too. </p>
<p>And it&#8217;s really not a conspiracy theory. If you just follow the dairy council dollars, it becomes very clear there&#8217;s an agenda to PUSH dairy products. Just like there&#8217;s an agenda to PUSH high fructose corn syrup. They&#8217;re things we really don&#8217;t need but there&#8217;s a profit to be made so&#8230;..</p>
<p>Oh yeah. I&#8217;m also a vegan. I tried it after being very critical of that lifestyle  I decided if I was going to criticize it, I&#8217;d better make sure I understood it. So I challenged myself to try it for a month. I&#8217;ve never looked back. I&#8217;ve also never felt so good in my life. If you want to criticize a Vegan, I challenge you to try it for a month. Really try it. The right way. Fruit, veg, legumes and grains. It won&#8217;t hurt you. You might learn something. And if you don&#8217;t like it, you&#8217;ve lost nothing and gained an actual justified opinion. Just sayin. If you haven&#8217;t tried it, shut yer yap.</p>
<p>And read the China Study. It&#8217;s full of this stuff called common sense and scientific research. It also acknowledges all this &#8220;statistics can be twisted to support anything&#8221; garbage you all keep spouting. Of course, if you&#8217;d actually read the book you might know that.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Steve</title>
		<link>http://saveourbones.com/osteoporosis-milk-myth/#comment-35938</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 17:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I refer the honourable gentleman to the reply I gave Jason above...</description>
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