One of my most rewarding experiences is to visit different parts of the country and to lecture on osteoporosis and ostepenia to fellow “truth seekers” like you. All are eager to learn and share their experiences, and I'm eager to teach and listen.
One of issues that never fails to come up is the fear mongering used by their doctors. It typically goes something like this:
“If you don't take the prescription medicine (Fosamax, Boniva, Actonel, Evista, Reclast, Forteo, Protelos, etc.) , one day you'll fall, break a hip, end up in a wheel chair… and die.”
Now that's a grim outlook, if I ever heard one! But you don't have to stand for it. Armed with the truth, you can “filter” through this scare tactic.
And most importantly, you can make intelligent decisions about your bone and overall health. The key is to make decisions based on knowledge… not fear.
As explained in great detail in The Osteoporosis Reversal Program (Chapters 2 and 3), there is a lot more to predicting future fracture risk than a simple T-score, which is the only guideline doctors use. The problem is that they're missing the other half of the equation.
That's why a study conducted by the Mayo Clinic College of Medicine led by Karen Mauck, MD, MSC, reports that in reality, only 13% to 18% of women older than 50 meet the correct diagnosis criteria for osteoporosis.
So yet again, we have another sobering example of cookie-cutter medicine failing up to 87% of women that may have been incorrectly diagnosed. This alone should be cause for alarm to you when trying to pursue a life of wellness.
So if your doctor ever tries to scare you by painting a grim picture of your future, don't let that get in the way of true knowledge and your pursuit of happiness.
Has your doctor done this to you? Share your story with our community below.
Hi Just been told I have advanced arthritic hip and full replacement needed, this flared up after my ONE and ONLY dose of alendronic acid !!!!! BE VERY CAREFUL if you are prescribed this. have Lupus and am on steroids.
discovered homeopathic remedy— osteocynesine Costs pennies, result =pain lessened immediately, Not limping nearly so badly That’s just with 1 days worth !!!! TRUE. 100% safe.
Also just ordered Hydrolised collagen / peptide powder- to assist with cartilidge will see how that goes. P.S The homeopathic osteocynesine costs £11.00 including carriage for approx. 200 pills take 2 3times daily between meals Good Luck
Prescribed EVISTA for borderline osteoporosis at 62. Caused very severe leg pain and restricted leg movement. This continued for a few mos after discontinuing. Endocrinologist said problem could not be from drug because it does not remain in body for thst long. She said that doing nothing is not an alternative and advised me to go back on it. Not a chance. I have no other health issues. So happy to have found your site after much research
I have no score not sure why I was x rayed & given movalat. Kind regards
I have a score of -3.5 doctor scared the lights out if me, I am afraid to take fosomax that was prescribed to me, I don’t smoke, eat very healthy, walk, I don’t strength train but will begin, started taking calcium and daily vitamins. My mother took he fosomax for 9 months and had a femur fracture and stopped taking fosomax she now just takes vitamins and calcium and doing good. She is 78. My gyn really scared me though and I feel as if they just push for the Meds and when you tell them you are scared they become very dismissive because you aren’t listening to them. Help I am really scared and confused!!
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looking for the right calcium, magnesium, d3 etc. to take for bad bones. age 65 and do weight lifting and zumba. had breast cancer, and low thyroid.
I’m 51 years old and just received a bone density scan my T score was -2.9. I’m so upset because I weight lift 3 days a week and cardio on the other like running, bicycling , aerobics . I have been drinking 1 cup of a yogurt drink with 1 cup of fortified orange juice 3 times daily which equals about 1800 mg of calcium. So is there anything ele I should do differently I’m not sure. I eat lots of fresh fruit
Clarissa, you are already doing a great job by keeping this exercise routine. You can also start shifting your diet to include more alkaline mineral-rich plant foods, and reduce animal protein. Green leafy vegetables like Mustard greens, Kale, watercress are excellent sources of minerals, in addition to Sea vegetables. In additional to purified spring water, nettle tea can be taken daily (a cup of nettles boasts 6 grams of fiber and a whopping 430 mg of calcium). Instead of animal protein, you can take Quinoa (a complete protein) to make woderful and tasty salads in addition to the other whole grains like Millet, and amaranth (either saoked and coaked or sprouted).
A little Sesame oil can be used in sauteing vegetables as it facilitates absorption of more minerals in the bones. Onion, garlic, parsley, dill, lettuce and cucumber can also be used daily for a better absorption.
In addition to animal protein and dairy, some foods and habits are better avoided or reduced like taking vinegar, citrus, excess salt, caffeine and soft drinks, alcoholic beverages and smoking. Refined and processed foods like refined sugar and flour are better avoided. (if it is white, don’t take a bite). The more food is processed, the more it loses its mineral and vitamin content and the more bone mineral reserves are used to compensate the loss.
In addition to a a balanced diet, some natural Quality supplements can be used to reverse the bone loss process: Calcium, Magnesium, Vitamin D, Zinc, B6, Silica (15 to 30 mg daily). In addition to this homeopathic formula Osteocynesine 2 Tablets a day.
Bones represent “support” and the “structure of life”, it is always a nice idea to enjoy a life where you help others and have others help and support you. All things bound together and all thing connect in this immense web of life. Having the right support is very important to rebuild a new life full of joy and happiness.
How about, the tests lied to her? Sounds like she’s doing more than enough already. Isn’t anybody going to raise an eyebrow about insurance companies, doctors, pharmacologist, and other specialists pushing us to take exams when actually we feel fine in those areas. I’ve been concerned about my thyroid and now my collapsed septum but my doctor feels I should take a bowel test and a bone density test. What? I was on thyroid medication and stopped because I was allergic to it. I ask for other meds to improve the thyroid and was told my thyroid was better. I had to make an appointment with a specialist regarding the collapsed septum so I’ll find out if that was the dentist’s error in pulling teeth. Gosh, why are we so gullible? We’re certainly not stupid about our own bodies are we? And at some point in my lifetime I will have softer bones…that’s just common sense, but as for now, I do not see why I must be pushed by the insurance company and doctor to take the tests. What could they possibly do to help my bones but put me on medication. Say NO to unnecessary medications.
Dear Vivian,
thank you for this article .i have been suffering of brittle nails from the childhood.i always read your article and do follow the instuructions the way i can.now i am 45 and i was taking garden of life supplements for almost five years.it is really helping me .i trust in God and waiting to do save our
bones programme.me and my husband are missionries and we are migrated to US almost 6 years back.i was allergic to so many things.i stop drinking milk past one year and start using almond milk .this has really improved my health.
May God bless you
elsa
I have restricted range of motion in both shoulders and constant pain in them and my upper arms. I have had two orthopedic surgeons x- ray them,etc. They both say that I need shoulder replacements. I have not gone ahead with that, because I believe that the bone can be restored naturally. Has any of you had this experience?
Rowena
I had a shoulder replacement and am really glad.
I could not reach past my shoulder height and could not
reach around to the back of me.
I believe it was because of cartledge.? spelling.
In other words the wear and tear on the bone is because
of lessening of the material between the bones. I
This is my experience. Just be sure of the Docs
credentials and reputation.
Rowena, I had low range of motion in one shoulder. I could not raise my arm above my shoulder and putting on deodorant was a trick. I also could not reach being my back. It was rotor cuff problems so I went to physical therapy and learned exercises to help me plus I go for massage therapy and that helps, too. I massage the trigger points for the muscles and now I can raise my arm, put plates in the cupboard, reach in my microwave that is over my stove and it’s only been five months of exercise and massage. I find i am using my arm a lot more now. I still can’t reach behind my back but I can live with that. So you might want to look into this.
Sherrine
Hi Sherrine,
I have just discovered this message, and I just wanted to let you know that you would be better with your microwave low down as it can affect your eyesight. Also just as an afterthought I would actually ditch it altogether (try reading books on Water and various effects of negative and positive vibes including microwaved water on it) as these are not the best things to use for the human body. It changes the molecular structure of water. Just thought people may be interested.
My doctor has prescribed a low dose patch of estrogen to help fight osteoporosis in my spine, what do you think about this? He said I may only have to do this for a few years to save my bones from loss. Thank you for your books and programs!
Hi Hannah, I’ve just posted a reply to Clarissa. It can be also helpful to you. Please check it out. The patch is a nice idea, and naturally balancing the diet into a more alkaline-mineral-rich plant foods diet can offer greater results. Fermented soy products like natto have also been associated with reduced bone loss in postmenopausal women. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16614424
I hope this helps 🙂
Do you have information on k2 and osteoporosis? The articles I have read suggest that you need to take it with vitamin d and calcium for bone heatlh.
A bone density scan gives you a T-score that helps determine whether you’re at risk for fractures. A T-score compares your bone density to the bone density of a healthy, young adult woman. A T-score of -2.5 or lower is defined as osteoporosis. The lower the score, the greater your fracture risk can be.
Osteoporosis Bone Density (risk of Fracture) Osteopenia Normal Bone Density
(-4.0 -3.5 -30 -2.5) -2.0 -1.5 (-1.0 -0.5 0 0.5 1.0)
At Azalia Clinic: My Wrist (said spine would be same as wrist) -4.4; Hip: -1.4. Told me I had extreme, dangerous osteoporosis and was in danger of spine collapsing. Took me right to an exam room and told me all about getting in the Forteo program and scheduled me for a class the following week. Told me no lifting, no housework, no bending, no twisting, no climbing stairs, etc. Scared me to death! Forteo would cost $900 a month and could have many and serious side effects. I left in a daze which did not go away for a couple of days.
At Trinity Health System: Spine: 1.3: above normal!! Hip: -1.2. Ostopenia, mild. Femur: -.09. Normal. These were in line with my bone scan in 2010.
Quite a significant difference! Even if we do have to pay for the follow-up scan. It is worth it!
MY ADVICE: DO NOT GO TO AZALEA CLINIC FOR BONE SCANS!!!!
I am thanking the Lord for the test results. Do not blindly accept bad results. Investigate further. If your heart is telling you something is not right, follow up. It just might be the Holy Spirit talking to you. At the least, it is the innate wisdom God gave you. Don’t let anyone push you into an extreme situation without first sitting back, thinking rationally and investigating further. Go to your primary care doctor and work with him or her. I have since found out that this same exact thing happened to one of my friends. Same place and same results!! Both referred by an Azelea surgeon. She also had mild osteopenia when tested further by her primary care physician.
I appreciate all the prayers you prayed for me. They certainly helped. Now I am upping my Vitamin D which was quite low, cutting out diet colas which are not good for bones, and eating more calcium, taking my calcium with meals, and walking and mild weight lifting (starting off slow and eas
Quite an amazing story, Pat. Thanks for sharing!
I broke my ankle slipping off a boulder in the park. When in hospital on traction I was put straight on medication, I am over 60 and post menopausal of course. I just took the medication as advised but I worry about the assumptions attached to people as they get older. As yet I had been referred for a dexascan but had no results or diagnosis. As it happens I was eventually diagnosed with ostopenia. However I was not advised of the potential repercussions of taking these drugs and was not properly informed about how to take the, i.e. I was told to sit or stand for 1/2 hour but was told to take with water. However I was not told to drink a whole glass of water. I discovered things later when I was able to read the leaflet that comes with the drugs. The most disturbing thing for me is the assumptions made before any diagnosis was available to doctors or me. I am relieved to have discovered a programme to work with to strengthen my bones.
Hello! I’m a 68 year old living in the UK! In 2007 I was in hospital with polymyagia, and the care was very good! I was on a high dose of prednisalone and paracetamol, also Actonal and calcium which I took until March this year! Although the steroids were reduced but I was told People take them for the rest of their life! I was so glad I found the SaveourBones Program,or I may still be ignorant as what could happen to me!
I Already know that I have small fractures in my ribs and spine and still have pain in my back, but decided in March to wean myself off all the medication! It was very hard but now I just take co enzyme Q10 which I hope is helping me! I’m under 7st. but my colesterol was over 7 and I just found out it is down to just over 5! Than you Vivian for all the information! Janet
I am Osteophena and on Fosamax, Calcium, Lactate for 3 years, can my position still be helped to reverse my Osteophena? I developed frequent cramps and only one month ago I was advised to top up my Magnisium to balance out my calcium intake and I am alright now. I do prefer to be treated the natural and cheaper methods. And I can’t afford to purchase your book. Is there any other ways you may be able to help me? Please advise. Thank you.
Yes, my gyno tries to use scare tactics to get me to take prescription drugs. He even told me if I was his wife he would get down on his knees and beg me to take them. That’s going a little far, I think. When all they have on their mind when they come in to do your exam is talking about the osteo drugs then it is time for a new gyno and that is exactly what I am doing. I am changing gyno’s this year and letting them know up front I do not take the drugs and have no plans to and if that is a problem for them I can look for another gyno.
Yes I know what most main stream doctors are nothing more but percription drug pushers they make all there money on week mineded people I don’t like doctors and I don’t trust them.
I do use alternative docters when ever I can,and but I do not let them use me.
I HAVE PROSTATE CANCER IT SEEMS TO BE IN REMISSION AS WE SPEEK.THE LAST BONE DENSITY TEST SHOWA A SLIGHT PROBLEM.I FINISH TAKING HORMONE TREATMENT 7MONTH AGO .MY FAMILY DOCTOR SUGESTED THAT I SHOULD TAKE ACDONEL PILLS BUT MY I BROKE MY FEMUR IN A BAD FALL AT THE GYM IN FEB. 2012 .THE BONE SPECIALIST TOLD ME NOT TO TAKE ACDONEL BUT INSTEAD 6000 IU OF VITAMIN D3 BECAUSE IS EXPERINCE TELL HIM THAT ACDONEL WILL MAKE YOUR BONES BRISK.PLEASE REPLY.
Vivian, I do not go to doctors! I live a healthy life (as far as is possible) and leave the rest to God. love Rosemary
Although I’ve had a hip replacement 4 yrs. ago…..I am happy that I have never been on any of the bisphophonates….and don’t intend to after reading your book.I am 81 yrs. old,so I need to be pretty caustious.Thank you for putting together such a wealth of information……Anne
continuation- I gave a BIG NO to the Doctor who try to convince me to take Fosamax wit the argument that woman have less fractures since the drug is in the market . I said to him : give me a natural way by which my body can repair my bones and I will do, as I was living he told me to use the way lifting of 3 lbs and to walk up the hill with a back pack wit way .
about the milk , have intolerance but I would like to know , the information about milk is done using raw milk , produced by caws raise the natural way feed with grass w/o pesticides , free of hormones , reciving plenty of sun , drinking clean natural water , fed also salt an molasses ???? that is the way our milk was in my south american countries before I came here . where I used Alta Dena raw milk until the FDA forced to put something in it then my intolerance began .
I have not been able to afford your book jet , hope to do it may be with a friend , since I was diagnose with bone density loss in my second test progressing , and the calcium I have taken for years was making deposits in my salivary glans instead of bones my doctor abroad gave me an homeopathic version call Osteocynesine , from BOIRON Lab, in Lyon France , is not available in this country , it has improve and repair my finger nails taken also natural Vitamin D3 and K as well as liquid trace minerals with Magnesium and Boron , without them does not work as efficiently I notice .
I have done Reclast 2 years now,had very bad side affects,my legs would hurt unbearable,to the point I would have to stop in walking.i recommend taking calcium with maginesium,if you think about a drug that is so strong that it last a year.i would read more about this drug before injecting this in my body.I wished I had read all the reviews before I had this done.most of the time the Dr’s really haven’t done research on some of the drugs there prescribing.please do your homework,before you inject Reclast in your body.
My doctor informed me several years ago that I have osteoporosis. I was on Actonel for several years and now being off of it for over a year, he wants me to start Forteo. I have a -4 on my last bone desity scan. But, I have several more problems: I had polio at the age of 15 months (paralizing my left side from my hip down) and now I am suffering with Post-Polio Syndrone. I have been walking with a cane for several years. I have always tried to eat the right foods, take my calcium and Vit. D and do exercises that I was able to do. I am so undecided on what I need to do about the Forteo drug. Any comments or suggestions would be appreciated. Gail Burkhart
Time release citrical,I can’t swallow the large calcium pills,I take the ones that have petite on them.with magnneisum.
Hello, I would like to know exactly what kind of calcium do you recommend?
Carbonate, glucanate etc…? I was told I was low on calcium but I do not
what kind is best. Aren’t they all just crushed up rocks?
I’ve been to may doctors, men and women, who have tried to use scare tactics. It only worked to make me nervous but I never did anything I didn’t feel was correct for me. I was made to cry several times. Even if I’m wrong, at lease it was my decision.
The alkaline diet is fantastic as is your programme but some people do really need to take osteo drugs because of other meds they must take that cause bone thinning. So please stop scaring them with side effects as we know all drugs have side effects but followiing your programme whilst also taking strontium ranelate can be nothing but helpful to strengthen bones not everyone gets all side effects from drugs and for some drugs the benefit outweighs the risk. sincerely Ruth x
Carol from August 14 wrote ” … ,had very bad side affects,my legs would hurt unbearable,to the point I would have to stop in walking.i recommend taking calcium with maginesium,if you think about a drug that is so strong that it last a year.i would read more about this drug before injecting this in my body.”
I also experienced the same as many other friends I talked to. Mother Nature gives us all we need. Our duty is to be healthy. We must do some research and use our intuition when choosing which medicine is good for us.
We do not need to suffer. There is always other ways …
HI Vivian my nane is Nancy ,The Dr. told me that I have Osteoporosis for
the last many years,I Do not take any drugs for it.I just take some supplements for my bones.I don’t believe in drugs unless its really
necessary.could you give me some advice on my osteoporosis.
thank you very much.
I refused the drugs except Forteo which really helped my spine and releived pain, 2 years. I follow Dr. Ronald Hoffman’s bone building protocol, brilliant holistic doctor, follow his salmon and salad diet, thanks.
My doctor gave me actonel. I took it for two years and the results from taking this medicaton caused me to get acid reflux and panic attacks and being in and out of the ER. Even today the acid comes up my breath stops, I get light headed and my heart starts beating real fast and I have to just go through these systems until they stop. It is such an awful feeling. My heart use to beat for a couple of hours and now I am learning how to deal with this and it last now for about two or three seconds. I have to be very carefull of what I eat. My life has been very miserable from taking actonel. Now the doctors want to give me more medication for the acid feflux and I refuse to take anything for it other than natural remedies. So please, please stay away from actonel. I am very sorry for taking this medication it has really done a lot of damage to my body.
I was told this and refused to take the drugs. Did everything naturally. Im a raw food eater. Im 63 and work in a paint shop picking up 10l pales of paint and mixing the colours all day long for retail and trade customers> A bit scary based on Drs coments. My bone density has not changed in 3 years. But they do try and put you on drugs and change your diet.
Just clarifying, the URL https://www.mayoclinicproceedings.com/content/81/5/662.full
that was not found is one given by Vivian in this comment section.
It looks like the Mayo Clinic site may have changed some of their links, Lucia. Here’s the current url for this study: https://www.mayoclinicproceedings.org/article/S0025-6196%2811%2961711-4/fulltext
Tried to access this URL https://www.mayoclinicproceedings.com/content/81/5/662.full
but it came up “Page not found” ??? Also said it was not valid.
I’m wondering why?
This may be slightly off-topic, but maybe not. I’ve read all these reports of the terrible side effects from biphosphonates, and have refused to take them. I threw away the prescription the doctor wrote, but because of this, I was unable to obtain a Medicare supplement insurance policy. There is an organization that keeps tabs on the prescriptions people take or don’t take, and they send these reports to insurance companies, and if something doesn’t set well with them, i.e., a woman refusing to fill or take a prescribed medication, such as Fosamax or Actonel, they can report back to the insurance companies and in turn, you can be banned from getting insurance. That’s one of Big Pharma’s sneaky ways of getting you to take their poison. According to an article in “Prevention” magazine, most states in the U.S. have gender bias; wherein a woman usually pays four times more than a man for similar insurance coverage, just because she’s female, and “goes tot he doctor more frequently”. They can refuse coverage to a woman who has been sexually assaulted, or who has had a caesarean section, or any other asinine reason to reject her. So beware. If you have refused your doctor’s prescription, even though it might kill or disable you for life, you may not be able to get an affordable insurance policy, or any insurance at all. Just a word to the wise.
Just fill the scrip and dump it.
excellent idea
When a person is turning 65, they are in their open enrollment period for purchasing a medicare supplement. They can actually purchase one without having to answer any health questions. After their open enrollment (which is 6 months past their 65th birthday) then they must answer health questions. FYI
No, my doctor does not use “scare tactics”, at least not for bone density. He always recommends calcium supplementation with vitamin D3, and told me I was not a candidate for any osteoporosis drugs like Actonel, Foxamax, Boniva, Forteo, or Reclast, as he knows my system would not tolerate these drugs. Also, I have a recurrent duodenal ulcer that contraindicates those drugs, which are also hard on the stomach. What’s really scary about them is the rotting jaw syndrome which has been reported and confirmed. He does have me on calcitonin, in the form of a nasal spray, and totally bypasses the digestive system. He is neither pro nor con about strontium, which I take alternately with calcium (One day on calcium and the next on strontium, since they cannot be used concurrently at the same time. He also recommends weight-bearing exercises. So I feel he is on the right track, and since he has been our family physician for years, I trust his expertise.
My local Doctor said to me that I needed to take a drug because of my Barrett’s disease that If I did not take it I could get cancer and that was a dreadful death. I knew that I did not have any of the symptoms I was supposed to have and realized that the Reliv Nutritional supplement I have been taking for some years is well on the way to healing the problem. When I contacted the Specialist doctor he agreed that if I did not have the symptoms I did not need to take the drug daily for the rest of my life!!!!! and that he would review the situation for me in 2 years time.
A Very reassuring artile sine I have been doing these things for years. I do get very angry at doctors who advocate milk. i wlaways thought it was pure poison and refused to drink it in school. They didn’t like that at all, until I learned the word “allergic” which wasn’t rue of course. Thank you so much for informing people aout this. I guess I am lucky that my own research has reached the same conclusions and that I did have osteoporosid ( could feel the softness in my bones. Burt they are strong now. I am 71 years old.