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Debunking The Milk Myth: Why Milk Is Bad For You And Your Bones

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Did you know that in Medieval England parents would tie rabbits’ feet around their babies’ necks to ward off illness? Doctors would also spit on wounds because saliva was believed to have healing properties.

Indeed, history is replete with unfounded health beliefs, and to everyone’s detriment, the milk myth is among the most tenacious.

Milk is much more than just a drink; it’s a cultural phenomenon that can be traced back thousands of years. And still today, the milk myth resonates loud and clear: in 2001, the average American child consumed 104 quarts of cow’s milk.

Milk depletes the calcium from your bones

The milk myth has spread around the world based on the flawed belief that this protein and calcium-rich drink is essential to support good overall health and bone health in particular at any age. It is easy to understand that the confusion about milk’s imaginary benefits stems from the fact that it contains calcium – around 300 mg per cup.

But many scientific studies have shown an assortment of detrimental health effects directly linked to milk consumption. And the most surprising link is that not only do we barely absorb the calcium in cow’s milk (especially if pasteurized), but to make matters worse, it actually increases calcium loss from the bones. What an irony this is!

Here’s how it happens. Like all animal protein, milk acidifies the body pH which in turn triggers a biological correction. You see, calcium is an excellent acid neutralizer and the biggest storage of calcium in the body is – you guessed it… in the bones. So the very same calcium that our bones need to stay strong is utilized to neutralize the acidifying effect of milk. Once calcium is pulled out of the bones, it leaves the body via the urine, so that the surprising net result after this is an actual calcium deficit.

Knowing this, you’ll understand why statistics show that countries with the lowest consumption of dairy products also have the lowest fracture incidence in their population (there’s more on this later).

But the sad truth is that most mainstream health practitioners ignore these proven facts. I know it firsthand because when I was diagnosed with osteoporosis, my doctor recommended that I drink lots of milk in addition to taking Fosamax.

Fortunately, I did neither, because I knew that…

Cow’s milk is custom-designed for calves

Thanks to our creative ingenuity and perhaps related to our ancient survival needs, we adopted the dubious habit of drinking another species’ milk. Nobody can dispute that cow’s milk is an excellent food source for calves. Weighing around 100 pounds at birth, a calf typically gains approximately eight times its weight by the time it is weaned. But unlike humans, once calves are weaned, they never drink milk again. And the same applies to every mammalian species on this planet.

Also, each mammalian species has its own “designer” milk, and cow’s milk is no exception. For example, cow’s milk contains on average three times the amount of protein than human milk which creates metabolic disturbances in humans that have detrimental bone health consequences.

It’s important to bear in mind that mother’s milk is excellent nourishment for human babies, but its composition is very different from cow’s milk.

Scientific studies show that milk increases fracture risk

Many scientific studies contradict the conventional wisdom that milk and dairy consumption help reduce osteoporotic fractures. Surprisingly, studies demonstrating that milk and dairy products actually fail to protect bones from fractures outnumber studies that prove otherwise. Even drinking milk from a young age does not protect against future fracture risk but actually increases it. Shattering the “savings account” calcium theory, Cumming and Klineberg report their study findings as follows:

“Consumption of dairy products, particularly at age 20 years, was associated with an increased risk of hip fracture in old age. (“Case-Control Study of Risk Factors for Hip Fractures in the Elderly”. American Journal of Epidemiology. Vol. 139, No. 5, 1994).

And the 12 year long Harvard Nurses’ Health Study found that those who consumed the most calcium from dairy foods broke more bones than those who rarely drank milk. This is a broad study based on 77,761 women aged 34 through 59 years of age.

In the authors’ own words:

“These data do not support the hypothesis that higher consumption of milk or other food sources of calcium by adult women protects against hip or forearm fractures.” (Source: Feskanich D, Willett WC, Stampfer MJ, Colditz GA. Milk, dietary calcium, and bone fractures in women: a 12-year prospective study. American Journal of Public Health. 1997).

Shocking statistics ignored by mainstream medicine

In the Save Our Bones Program one of the topics I discuss is the complete disregard of scientific evidence that discredits milk and dairy products as the best source of calcium.

One exception is Amy Lanou Ph.D., nutrition director for the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine in Washington, D.C., who states that:

“The countries with the highest rates of osteoporosis are the ones where people drink the most milk and have the most calcium in their diets. The connection between calcium consumption and bone health is actually very weak, and the connection between dairy consumption and bone health is almost nonexistent.”

Surprised? You shouldn’t be, because as I mentioned earlier in this article…

Milk is an acidifying animal protein

Like any other animal derived protein-rich food, milk has a positive potential renal acid load (PRAL) which triggers a protective biological reaction to neutralize all the damaging acidic protein before it reaches the kidneys.

The body is designed for survival, so it sacrifices bone density to protect the kidneys and urinary tract because the latter are essential to survival. And the most readily available source of acid neutralizer is in the bones. So even though milk contains calcium, it ends up sapping your bones of that crucial mineral. But that’s not all because…

Today’s milk is a processed food

Until the end of the 19th century in Europe and the beginning of the 20th century in the US, milk was consumed unpasteurized or raw. Later on, homogenization became the industry’s standard. These processes further alter milk’s chemistry and actually increase its detrimental acidifying effects.

Raw milk advocates claim that if cow’s milk is left “as is” it is a healthy and wholesome drink. It is true that raw milk is less acidifying than processed milk and that pasteurization and homogenization may cause a long list of digestive and other health problems, but I still don’t recommend drinking any kind of cow’s milk.

Nowadays, milking cows are given antibiotics and most are also injected with a genetically engineered form of bovine growth hormone (rBGH). A man-made or synthetic hormone used to artificially increase milk production, rBGH also increases blood levels of the insulin-growth factor 1 (IGF-1) in those who drink it. And higher levels of IGF-1 are linked to several cancers.

This should not be ignored, especially in view of recent information by Samuel Epstein, MD, Professor of Environmental Medicine at the University of Illinois School of Public Health, and Chairman of the Cancer Prevention Coalition. In an article titled “Monsanto’s Hormonal Milk Poses Serious Risks of Breast Cancer, Besides Other Cancers” (http://www.preventcancer.com/press/releases/july8_98.htm, June 21, 1998) Dr. Epstein concludes that:

“Drinking rBGH milk would thus be expected to significantly increase IGF-1 blood levels and consequently to increase risks of developing breast cancer and promoting its invasiveness.”

Even though organic milk is from cows that are not given antibiotics or rBHG, if you truly care about your bone health and your overall health, you should…

Avoid drinking cow’s milk

As I explain in the Save Our Bones Program and contrary to mainstream recommendations, drinking milk and eating lots of dairy products are not the answer to reversing osteoporosis. And while in the Save Our Bones Program no food is completely off limits, I strongly recommend that you explore the different milk substitute options that I will list for you here.

But first, I’d like to clarify that unsweetened fermented or cultured dairy products such as yogurt, kefir, and sour cream are acid neutral. Yogurt in particular is chock-full of beneficial qualities. As is the case with milk, organic yogurt does not have rBGH, but even several of the most well-known yogurt brands have stopped using the bovine growth hormone (rBGH). You should call your favorite yogurt company to confirm. One more clarification: when I say unsweetened I mean without sugar or any artificial sweetener. However, you can add honey or stevia, a zero calorie plant-derived sweetener that is delicious and alkalizing as well. I like to carry around stevia packets in my purse so that I’m always able to sweeten food or drinks when I’m on the go.

The best milk substitutes

My favorite milk substitute is unsweetened almond milk, not only because it is alkalizing (as almonds are), but also because it’s delicious and tastes very similar to milk. I even cook with it!

If almond milk is hard to get, you can also try rice or soy milk. I strongly suggest consuming only organic soy milk to insure it’s not made with genetically modified soy. There is also some controversy about unfermented soy products, so try to use it in moderation.

What Else Haven’t They Told You?

What else have you been told about bone health by your doctor or other “experts” that is flat out wrong? What other “facts” (like drinking milk does a body good) are keeping you from optimal health?

Myths like these are a big reason I created the Save Our Bones Program. To give you the straight scoop on how to deal with osteoporosis the natural way.

I can help you take control of your future.

Learn more about the Save Our Bones Program here →

And remember, if you ever hear someone ask “Got milk?” smile and think to yourself “No, because I know better!”

And as always, I’d love to hear your thoughts. Share them with me and the rest of our community by leaving a comment below.

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  1. KADER August 26, 2015, 11:18 am

    Milk has some pharmaceutical benefits especially in homeopathic systems. Sugar of milk, the chief vehicle used in homeopathy is extracted from whey. Phosphorus in it is negligible.

  2. mh August 26, 2015, 10:31 am

    The news that dairy is not good for humans is over 100 years old. Cows don’t drink it after their calves are weaned. Add to that that the milk producing cow stays in a state of pregnancy while on hormones and antibiotics makes this article even more relevant to our time. Dairy is a huge industry ( and like tobacco ) has gone to great lengths to deceive the public, My children have asthma and the doctor advised me against milk when they were small. That is 35 years ago! Thank you for spreading the news!

  3. LW August 25, 2015, 7:08 am

    Lets be clear. Human milk is meant for humans. Cows milk is meant for cows. It is literally NOT meant for us to be drinking, its not natural. Thats all there is to say about it.

  4. Pg August 24, 2015, 8:13 pm

    Where are the references to these studies which are mentioned, which supposedly support these claims. I would like to verify what this person is saying. Without them this is utter and complete speculation and bro science. EXAMPLE: A study has shown milk will give you super powers and eventually allow you to fly, there I can do that also.

    • Pg August 24, 2015, 8:22 pm

      ADDITION 2002 American Society for Clinical Nutrition (http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/76/3/675.short, 2002) States “Children who avoid drinking cow milk have low dietary calcium intakes and poor bone health1,2,3”. Tada for every study there will be a reverse study to say flat out that it milk is debunked is an outrageous statement. Correlation is not causation.

  5. Hala August 24, 2015, 5:51 pm

    But if I drink two cups of milk ( 400ml) one in the morning and another in the evening! Is it bad for my health or bones? I really want to know

    • Alyssa August 27, 2015, 6:02 pm

      It isn’t bad for your bones. She sites no articles, she has no scientific references for this, and she has a masters of art, so no background in science. The sad thing about the internet is anyone can post anything they want, even if they have no credentials to do so. I have a degree in research in nutrition. Milk is not bad for you.

  6. Mayavin August 22, 2015, 6:57 am

    Interesting article, as I read it in bed with my right leg up healing a fractured ankle 😉

    I am no fan of milk, especially the pasteurized, Monsanto-treated one, but I wonder – if the problem you mention with the loss of Calcium is not solved by simple urinotherapy.

    Drinking your own urine, if one observes a diet free of meat, alcohol, tobacco, medication, is a highly beneficial thing – helping to maintain state of health and help curing numerous maladies. In case of milk it seems to me it would prevent the loss of Calcium, because you would simply absorb it again.

    A solution worth considering, since one could instead of rejecting something outright, just solve the problem and keep the good stuff :)

  7. 123 August 19, 2015, 1:14 pm

    “once calves are weaned, they never drink milk again. And the same applies to every mammalian species on this planet”
    just gave milk to my 12 yo dog and 7yo cats. they drank it. now i’m questioning if they are normal or not. better grab that shotgun

    • HeyNow August 21, 2015, 6:04 pm

      You totally missed the point. Mammals do not drink from their mother once they are weaned. Of course your pets will drink the cow’s milk from the store, just as humans do, but they, nor we, benefit from it…..

  8. Stephen August 14, 2015, 3:48 pm

    There is so much misinformation in this article, it’s pretty mind boggling. Milk does not cause acidosis, and there have been studies about this topic also. milk pH is 6.3 to 6.8, only slightly acidic. Your body does not need to work too hard to neutralize milk as it does other beverages, all of which are more acidic except for water. This post goes through the information on this post quite well http://www.dairymoos.com/is-milk-bad-for-your-bones/

    • Fred August 18, 2015, 11:35 pm

      Stephen, the science cited in this article is sound. It’s a very good article. The only “misinformation” that I find to be of concern is what you have offered with your “mind boggling” inclusion of a link to the blog of a “3rd generation dairy farmer.” I question your objectivity.

      I honestly feel that you are offering disinformation. I find your post to be dishonest.

      • Andrea August 23, 2015, 2:26 pm

        The author conveniently only cited the parts that agreed with her opinion and left the rest out.

        • Poc August 24, 2015, 6:46 pm

          I agree, Andrea. Where are the links/references to the “numerous” and “scientific” studies that were conducted to show that the consumption of milk accelerates calcium depletion?

  9. Andi August 14, 2015, 12:48 am

    Everything is bad for us even the fluoride laced water. You will die accept it and live.

  10. Sindy August 13, 2015, 10:35 am

    see the way i see this humans have been drinking milk a long time. and only in the last50 years are we unhealthy as we are. bth my grandparent living into there 90s my gran 92 and my gandfather 96 currently.

    they drink milk in cooking. my gran is itiallion . so yes she has the knolage of the lifestyle from there. she lallways cooked with fresh food and even gutted her own raw fish from supermarkets.

    my gran got breast cancer at 90. but she went on the theropy that shrinks it with pills. the tumour did not grow it sharnk by 2/3rds
    she got osterioperosis when she was 90 and it degraded her fast. but that was her age.

    I am 2 and i hve scoliosis its 45* which is pretty bad. some say its linked with poor calcuim but nowhere does that concept make sence. my spine is not brittle. its growing wrong (and btw the curve is extreamly tight only 3 of my top thoracic) i never new i had it untill 22 when i started getting backache. it was aready suvere. i find whenever i add a little more milk in my diet the pain stops. this is certinly true because i am in practically n pain. i am not recieving psyio or anything for it.

    my friend is a beautitin. and he has beauitful silky skin and soft feet. he tells me. milk is great n your face it will take the oil off it and make it plump. he uses olive oil on his feet (so do the greeks btw)
    Queen cleopatra used to bathe herself in milk, yes it was probabbly goats milk.so perhaps i will change over

    but i really dont see any actualy evidence in humans that it is harmful. if you have cancer tho do not drink it. diry interacts with cells when there reforming and can cause them to become cancerous. but this alone will no cause cancer. you will need to do something else to set it off ( such as DNA or lifestyle)

    i eat alot of veg (alot) maybe 9 a day when i feel like it
    not because it is GOOD for me, but because i enjoy it i eat crap too whenever i want but thats rare. i do not eat any chocolate anymore and have dramaticlly cut my refined sugar. instead i eat dark chocolate.

    the lat thing i will say
    if you are unwell because you eat dairy. it is not because dairy is bad. it is because of thhe lactose alergy you have
    your body is sensitive to it. ask you gp about DE SENSIYZATION
    i am intolerant to fish except tuna and bonito. i used to eat fish alot. i am gradully bringing it back into my diet. as i love japanese food. but never will be able to eat crab or dancing squid again… well maybe 1 day

    now somepeople say your animals dont eat processed shit. this isnt true. my cat will eat a micro burger if i give her a bit. i dont do it alot i never give her dairy except maybe eggs. but she doesnt eat the anywy. cats are lactose intolerant. you can give them lactose FREE milk. or buy the wiskas milk at supermarkets.

    stop being paranid if you get cancer its not because of dairy. why dont you all just get that dna test and fin out what ur likley to get
    But certinly reducing your milk itake to only when nesscesery will help

    people say chhese and yoghurt is bad. do you realise how amzingly good for your inside and skin yoghurt is. if people ate more organic yoghurt theyd live a hell of a lot longer. and the french have been eating blue bacteria rich cheese for hundres of years.

    Fuk this study its full 0f illogical flaws

    • Billy Bill August 20, 2015, 1:55 am

      Your exclusion of random letters throughout this comment is clearly con purpose and clearly amazing. You are like the Shakespeare of the those who can’t give a fuk.

  11. Ed August 5, 2015, 2:46 am

    I’m now 50. UK citizen. It’s really funny, but the whole of my life, as far back as I can remember, every time I was given milk to drink or put it in drinks or on cereals etc, I got mucous forming in my mouth – not a little – A LOT. I also noticed that yoghurt didn’t give me so strong reaction, but cheese also gave me that reaction.

    As a result, I naturally started to drink/ use it less and less, but still had it in other things and ate cheese. I just thought I was weird.

    Then when 20, I got seriously ill, with Ulcerative Colitis, and noticed that I couldn’t digest milk and milk products at all anymore, even thought the doctors kept on saying drink milk!

    Finally, I did some ‘alternative medicine’ research that said dairy was not recommended for people with my kind of disease, and I cut it out altogether.

    Since then, I went on a long journey, and today my diet is practically (traditional) Chinese, and vegetarian. I also use energy medicine and despite all the doctors saying I would never recover, and I would get cancer and must have surgery, and my life expectancy would be about 10 years (to age 30), I’m fully recovered. Still, if I try and drink milk etc, I get the same reaction, lots of mucous forming. Also, I have a similar reaction to sugar, which I didn’t notice so much before, but became clearer and clearer.

    Whilst other life style stuff and also controlling my emotions etc is the most important factor for me in health, diet is also very important.

    I know, from my own natural body reaction, milk, sugar, and so on is plain negative. Sheep and goat milk, and kefir, I can handle, but thanks for this great article. I want to keep strong bones and a healthy body, and live to be very old!!!

  12. Kyle August 3, 2015, 2:38 pm

    I am confused by the article, but only from personal experience. My cholesterol was high as well as a few other issues. I went on a high fat and lots of milk diet. My bad cholesterol is lower than it ever has been. I feel “good”. But who knows….I don’t…one article I read something is bad for me, click another link or read another book and they say its the best thing for me…….with everyone being able to put information out there, we end up more confused than when we started. Also, each side points to “studies”. …..I’m just gonna drink my milk and gamble with it. my grandma drank milk everyday and lived to 83. Not sure if that’s great or not but……who knows. Got Milk?

  13. Josh August 2, 2015, 8:51 am

    oh yeah, i drink it a lot. im healthy, no bones broken ever, cholesterol perfect, lipids perfect, hdl (good cholesterol) amazingly high as it should be, and ldl (bad) is exceptionally low. blood pressure perfect, ekg on heart perfect, blood sugar perfect, also, i hate vegetables, i ear fast food A LOT, and fry nearly everything. so yeah, at 36 years old this is how i have eaten. so put that in your agenda and stuff it.

    • Steffani August 9, 2015, 9:59 pm

      You are 36 years young!!!… Keep eating like you are and see what your body is like at 56.

    • Corinne August 2, 2015, 1:38 pm

      Hi Josh, the key words: “at 36” — I would have said the same then. Not that you will necessarily ever have problems: not all heavy smokers get cancer. People end up getting agendas when they develop serious health problems, agendas that can be helpful to others. Not saying that all health advice is right, but why not try compassion and open mindedness?

  14. Bob Burrows August 1, 2015, 2:06 pm

    Just read your article … how do you respond to this info?
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22081694
    Bob

    • MEL August 5, 2015, 5:37 pm

      at the end of the fake story…

      SUPER link! thank you so much.

  15. johannes July 31, 2015, 5:35 am

    Everybody on this planet are in some or other way eating unhealthy food,inhaling bad air,and drinking water with some chemicals in it.I agree that we do not need milk cheese or any dairy whatsoever….there is enough other foods to choose from……its up to the individual to choose. It ultimately boils down to your own constitution .Some folks smoke and get old others die of cancer etc. But I can assure you that anything you buy in a box ,packet ,or container will have some preservatives in it. Look at the ingredients next time you buy soy,almond ,rice or yoghourt or whatever ….it will have some sort of unnatural ingredients.The only way to go is natural and that itself is hardly possible in the world we live in.Humans are different to animals those very eastern nations who dont consume milk eat spiders insects snakes etc and get old. What i am trying to say is just choose a middle path and keep moderation in mind and if you are genetically blessed ….and you constitution is strong ,then you will probably die old despite drinking milk or eating rice or insects every day.Problem today is everybody wants to be right and preach their gospel to the world out there.The food,healthfood,pharmaceutical companies,medical profession etc is a money making racket today Anything touched by human hands and modified is probably bad for you.Try to eat natural if you can …

    • aj August 19, 2015, 11:25 am

      very well said. the world and the things we consume have turned synthetic.

  16. Jeanne July 30, 2015, 12:00 am

    Just food for thought, not sure which side of the fence I’m on but I don’t like the taste of milk so I don’t drink it but I love cheese. The argument that we are the only animal to drink other animal’s milk is not true, there are many times ‘foster’ mothers will suckle abandoned and orphaned animals, granted not for their entire lives. Also, we are the only animals that cook our food, and even though a lot of people that believe in the raw food diet, I’m not eating steak tartar, although I do love sushi.

  17. Joe Antony July 28, 2015, 9:05 am

    I just want to mention one point here. Every other mammal drinks milk only in the initial period of its life, we are the only mammal who drink milk that to another species’ milk throughout the life, doesn’t this sound crazy? Ask these basic questions. How human being is able to digest lactose in infancy and the same ability is gone once grown up? Once we start to eat whole food we should stop drinking milk, that is the design that is common sense. Drinking another species’ milk throughout one’s life is nothing but absurd. Those who are supporting drinking milk should be ready to kneel down and suck the nipples of the cow, eventually that’s what we are doing.

    • Richard August 1, 2015, 8:15 pm

      Yes, we are probably the only mammal to drink milk beyond the initial stages of our lives; but that is because we can do it — other mammals can’t. We are the only mammals to cook our food, too. But, again, that is because we can do it. And let’s remember that in zoos humans feed other mammals milk for all of their lives. It is our technology that allows us to do many things the other mammals can’t. It is our technology that also allows us to determine whether these “unnatural” things we do are healthy. And despite all these supposedly unnatural things we are doing, the average life expectancy of humans in industrialized societies continues to rise.

      • Haley August 8, 2015, 10:00 am

        milk causes a high risk for cancer. So be cause we CAN drink it, that means we should? So then we should smoke crack and inject heroin too then, right?

        • Billy Bill August 20, 2015, 2:36 am

          Everything in too much consumption can cause cancer – even the sun. Yes. The life-sustaining, indispensable to our existence sun, will kill you if you are exposed to it for too long, and much quicker than milk. Cancer is natures way of keeping life on this planet balanced. There is no cure for cancer as if such thing were discovered we would be defying the laws of nature and trust me, we will become extinct long before that ever happens. Using the “it causes cancer” card to justify the complete 100% abstinence of anything is ill advisable to say the least. As explained, cancer is what keeps balance. If we consume one thing too much we will cause imbalance in our life and risk getting cancer. But, like a seesaw, this also works the other way. By abstaining too much from one thing you will again cause an imbalance in your life, which risks being met with cancer. Life is about balance, balance with everything, good and evil, black and white, up and down, acidic and pH balanced, natural and synthetic, bipedal mammal and quadrupedal mammal, mammal and non-mammal, etc. Oh, can’t forget the balance between information you receive that sounds legit and information you receive that feels legit. How do we know when such a balance is met? I don’t know. Communicating with your body? Consuming things and paying attention to how you feel in a completely objective space or state of mind. Sounds like a whole lifestyle thing. Hmmmmm, I am going to research this more. Sounds interesting. Anyways, cancer is not bad, just nature.

  18. Brad July 26, 2015, 7:43 pm

    I stopped drinking ‘pasteurized’ cow milk about 2 years ago…. and have been drinking raw goat’s milk ever since. I’m very pleased with the switch and would/will no longer ever go back to ‘pasteurized’ milk/dairy, as I believe it applies to what this article is pointing out. But I’m trying to ascertain where ‘raw’ milk fits into all of this. Raw milk is far superior, in my opinion/research, but perhaps even ‘raw’ milk products are unnecessary. ???? Anybody have an opinion on this?

  19. Mummy July 25, 2015, 2:58 pm

    People are looking for references. http://nutritionstudies.org/12-frightening-facts-milk/

    Would be good to be able to delete those extreme comments and try to stick to a sensible debate. No need for dramatics. As with most (but not all!) things in life, a little does no harm and if nothing else, maybe substituting some of our milk consumption with alternatives will improve our nutritional variety and lessen the environmental impact in the process.

  20. Giovanni July 23, 2015, 9:13 pm

    I grew up on a dairy. It always amazed me how many sick cows get milked, knowingly. Cows filter everything out of our polluted environment, including radioactive hot particles. It’s a fact that Amerca consumes more dairy products, than any other country but has the most illnesses.
    I mix, equal parts, coconut, soy and almond milk. I wouldn’t use anything else, on my cereal. I love the flavor and the health benefits. I will never go back to milk. I occasionally eat Greek yogurt, with fresh fruit.
    Watch some of the great food documentaries, such as Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead. American food is causing a very sick nation. We are all sheeple and resist change, even for our own survival…..

  21. Bran Jackson July 21, 2015, 12:44 pm

    How is it I have yet to brake a bone and I drink milk? I am highly active in football, baseball, and golf. I have done some stupid crap and I have yet fracture or dislocate a bone. Now how would you bring in a scientific stand point on that.

    • Holly July 29, 2015, 3:02 am

      Well, first of all, judging by your spelling, you sound like you’re still young enough to have plenty of time to *break* or fracture something.
      Secondly, smoking causes cancer. Yet, not every smoker has or will ever have cancer. So, your point is invalid.

    • Anne July 21, 2015, 9:14 pm

      How old are you, if you read the comments in the article, It’ll affect you later on, with “Higher” chances of bone fractures and calcium deficiency. You wouldn’t start noticing until you hit 40 but even then you’re still too young to have these illnesses.

      The underlying point is, if you want to avoid having problems during your later years you “Should”, avoid milk! It’s not even about delaying the onset of osteoporosis, rather eliminating this kind of physical illness.

  22. Steve July 20, 2015, 11:04 pm

    Hahaha if this were true I’d have no bones left! I used to drink a gallon of milk every 2 days. What a bunch of hogwash. Our bodies are amazing things and quite capable of dealing with a little extra protein (all 8g per cup)! I bet you drink Alkaline water and think salt is harmful to a healthy adult with no heart issues.

  23. Sweber661 July 15, 2015, 6:56 am

    P.S.
    The author of this article is NOT a doctor, and is NOT qualified to be offering medical advice. Here is an article debunking every piece of blatant disinformation that this article contains.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/22081694/

    • vredt August 4, 2015, 4:45 pm

      one would have to ignore this study based upon the omission :
      “systemic PH is not influenced by diet”
      not only is everything else in this write-up just a vague disclaimer against the health detriments of milk, it tries to say that “you are in fact NOT what you eat” and that your diet has nothing to do with the ph of your body. udder bulsch.

      the effects of milk are instantly noticeable to those with a high vibrational, clean diet. it slows the metabolics down, takes away and makes numb, the healing property of the plant-based superfoods already working in the body (cause that’s what you are supposed to be eating).

      are you really that fond of your childhood, baby-level preferences?
      wake up, grow up, try some new things, stop your own ritual suicides, inform yourself, look into your own mind and heart, know what is good for you, not just pleasing to the memory/convenience/familiar taste buds you’ve been holding onto for sooooo long.

      obviously these scientists, who do not back up the claims of saveourbones.com expecting you to believe and be intimidated by their scientific reasoning/jargon, offering no real information, just negating the probability that “you are in fact exactly what you consume” and most likely an advert of the milk industry ( a corporation that keeps people from developing their taste-buds) are contrary, condescent assholes.

      milk… s’just a low vibrational product and this abstract mentioned nothing of the growth hormones or the verification that insulin which causes the cancer is not correlated.
      it’s bulsch, but if you had a clean diet, you drink milk or any product with milk, usually another cheap, shit-quality product.. you can tell what is happening in your body based on the electricity in your spine!
      it’s blocks the circulation and conductivity of spiritual electricity in the body like liquid lead slowing down the blood coursing thru veins.

      give up those crappy comfort foods, they all contain milk – and they all impair your nervous system, keeping you numb and prone to injury, disease, and infection!

      develop your adult taste-buds already!

      learn to feel the subtle energy in your body, circulating, it’s the only connection to god and the universe you’ll ever have in this lifetime!

      don’t just believe some write-up that says “no” without any quantifying qualitative analysis on product comparison!

      we’re all one, so if your still drinking this swill and eating crappy, you’re fuggin’ it up for the rest of us awaiting the mutual connectivity to the collective consciousness!

    • Rob July 20, 2015, 10:07 am

      How can you be so ignorant as to disregard a study that has vast amounts of evidence that proves milk is bad… You are one of those people who believes whatever the news, facebook and all forms of media propagate. Take personal health into consideration instead of denying a factual study that has been proven countless times.

    • Rob July 20, 2015, 10:07 am

      How can you be so ignorant as to disregard a study that has vast amounts of evidence that proves milk is bad… You are one of those people who believes whatever the news, facebook and all forms of media propagate. Take personal health into consideration instead of denying a factual study that has been proven countless times..

  24. Sweber661 July 15, 2015, 6:50 am

    You both attack cows milk for it’s supposed “proven link” to osteoporosis and bone damage(despite having absolutely zero studies, nor empirical evidence to back up such a blatantly ignorant statement), AND promote the consumption of soy, a “food product” that has been linked to almost EVERY major cancer and thyroid disorder known to man. If you wouldn’t mind explaining: were you dropped on your head, or are you just THAT retarded?

  25. Steve July 13, 2015, 6:35 am

    Milk is amazing.

    • Stephen July 15, 2015, 1:47 am

      why would you say such a thing?

  26. Steve July 13, 2015, 6:34 am

    i smell idiots

  27. Ed Idoks July 10, 2015, 2:23 pm

    I feel all the idiots below who cannot accept the truth that anything which can eye you or call you Daddy or any product from these is bad for a human; should wake up and ask where the animals get the protein and calcium they need to grow strong and survive? Wake up and get a life. Because dairy and animal products are stealing your life from you. Nice truths Vivian..

    • Lorraine July 10, 2015, 2:28 pm

      Ed I quite agree with you. Folk you should Google Prof Walter Veith and read and watch what he has to say on these same subjects of Dairy Animal products and diet. Well said Ed and nice article Vivian…

      • Rishith July 19, 2015, 2:39 am

        These comments need to have a like button.

        • zack August 9, 2015, 12:39 pm

          sorry this prof veith character is a wacko. not sure why anyone would believe someone with such a narrow view of the world (and an anti semite to boot…)

  28. Jonathan July 7, 2015, 3:45 pm

    I agree milk is defiantly bad for you and causes a lot of mucus in the body which then allows for diseases illnesses etc to form within our bodies plus its very acidic. also the reason why the western world has such high cancer rates is the amount of milk ,cheese and meat we consume its never in moderation compared to places like china and Africa.
    BOTTOMLINE the western world is greedy and that’s why god has punished us with so many illnesses.

    • Billy Bill August 20, 2015, 2:39 am

      You just used the word “defiant”, a word that implies intention, to describe milk, something that may not have the mental capabilities to intend. Interesting. You may be onto something here.

    • Andrew July 28, 2015, 1:19 am

      Its funny how smart people think they are because they heard something from someone else.

    • george July 10, 2015, 11:08 pm

      God does Not punish us for drinking milk!That’s a stupid comment!!!

    • Jonathan July 7, 2015, 3:57 pm

      What you must also take into consideration is diets. In these countries where there are lower instance rates of cancer and other dairy related illness they tend to have a more organic diet; ie eating native fruits and vegetables grown locally opposed to lots of protein in more industrialized nations. This also links to cancer incident rates. In America life expectancy rate went DOWN from what it was in the past. This is because of poor eating habits, chemicals, gmo foods milk, etc not diagnosed in elderly but in an alarmingly increasing number of age ranges that should be healthy otherwise. To say poor detection is the reason of disparity among numbers and average life span is to ignore other scientific, quantifiable data that exists to the contrary. It is directly tied in to food systems, agricultural processes, toxins and added dna fragments to plant species in order to yield more desirable results on a profitability landscape. Do not brush these aside while compiling data and adhere biases propagated by the uneducated or poorly educated.

  29. Brenda July 7, 2015, 12:20 pm

    Doesn’t this imply that cheese is unhealthy? If so, what’s a good replacement for cheese?
    Plus, thank you for this article. I plan on resorting to soy and almond milk. I’m definitely sharing this with friends!

    • Zac July 30, 2015, 4:21 am

      I would try vegan cheese! Some people dont like it, but I tend to like it more than real cheese.

    • Stephen July 15, 2015, 1:40 am

      Replacement for cheese? How about just cut it out entirely? I know that it tastes good, but now – considering the validity of this article – we have no excuse to consume dairy for it’s “nourishment”, why would we consume it at all? It isn’t good for you, and there are few replacements that accurately represent cheese. I know that some people have tried brewer’s yeast – I’m not sure if this is a cheese replacement, per say, but I know some people use it to replace cheese. This doesn’t mean it tastes like cheese…I dunno, I encourage you to go try it out! They carry it at Whole Foods Market, I believe

  30. ptfjjj July 3, 2015, 10:12 pm

    I’ve always been suspicious of the government’s claim that bovine dairy is necessary for human health. Those of you that are so convinced that it is so are basically brainwashed by the government and the dairy industry. Just think about it, why would it be natural for us to consume the excretions of a different species? I don’t care which study you quote, you will never convince me that ANY bovine dairy product is necessary for human health. Just step back and look at this like I am a member of an advanced intelligent culture from another planet and convince me that it makes sense for you to, not only consume these products, but that you deem it a basic necessity.

    • Joe July 5, 2015, 11:13 pm

      I am a 23 year old male who drinks a lot of milk and have since childhood. My parents did too and it was just normal. I never thought it was necessary (or even “natural” but look around you, most of what we do today isn’t natural). Milk does contain many of the same basic nutrients every human needs to live, and is great for muscle gain due to its high protien and calorie level. I also genuinely really like the taste of dairy in general (cheese, milkshakes, icecream, etc).

      Before today, I didn’t seriously think milk was detrimental to my health. As a rational human being I am going to revelaute how much milk I drink, but I definitely need to do some more research before I stop drinking it completely because this seems to be a biased source. Certainly there has been scientific research that concluded milk has health benefits before these “recent studies”.

      • Stephen July 15, 2015, 1:46 am

        Hey there! If I could shed some light on the situation: Although he doesn’t have sources stated, everything is true. Milk is incredibly bad for you. Notice your phrasing: “nutrients”. Do humans eat nutrients? Yes, but through the medium of FOOD. Many scientific studies reveal that indeed protein is good for you, as is calcium (two major buzzwords when it comes to milk). Although, we mustn’t view milk as the nutrients that it contains. If we do this, of course we can be convinced of its nourishment capabilities. Although, humans eat food, not nutrients, so we must consider milk AS a food. The harmfulness of milk is a reality.

        I encourage you to check out these sources:
        The China Study (T. Colin Campbell, PhD)
        Eat To Live (Joel Fuhrman, M.D.)

        Those are just two sources, but I’m sure the facts you’ll find in those books will convince you.

        • cza July 30, 2015, 8:38 pm

          the china study has had several key points debunked and has also shown that points not agreeing with supported claims were left out.

          if this is your reasoning to why milk is bad i wold reconsider your disposition on the subject

  31. Kensei July 2, 2015, 10:42 am

    Here’s a link to an actually good article about WHY and WHAT milk is bad for you, by an actual doctor… Has no references but it’s short and straight to the point.

    http://www.mercola.com/article/milk/no-milk.htm

    TLDR: Drink raw milk, don’t drink processed.

    • PhD August 5, 2015, 3:45 pm

      The second you reference mercola all credibility is lost.

      • greg August 16, 2015, 3:14 am

        he’s a paleo nut,but he has a lot of interesting research if you are able to sort the good from bad and ignore his marketing spin.

  32. Kensei July 2, 2015, 10:28 am

    Wow…I can’t believe I just read through all of your crap. I don’t even feel the need for a counter-argument. With a wealth of information around the net, it’s clear that you made zero effort to cross-reference research.

  33. Jean Lawson July 1, 2015, 6:54 pm

    Wish I could occasionally see an online conversation that did not include profanity. It doesn’t suggest intelligence or wit. Anyway… If you want studies or evidence, read the China Study by T. Colin Campbell. I was prompted to read it after a possible diagnosis of MS or stroke. It has something like 35 pages of references to medical articles and scientific studies and they weren’t studies paid for by the meat or dairy industry or any pharmaceutical company. It convinced me that meat and dairy have wreaked havoc on the health of affluent societies and it’s only going to get worse. Changing my eating lifestyle was the right choice for me. My cholesterol dropped 45 pts. in only a month (to 154), my blood pressure has dropped to normal, I’m losing weight without trying, and I hope to soon be off all medication. After reading the evidence presented in that book, I personally decided dairy is more dangerous than meat. Excellent article, Vivian.

  34. Carol June 29, 2015, 9:00 am

    I stopped drinking milk several years ago when I was diagnosed with osteoporosis. My PA told me to consume lots of dairy which was very poor advice. I also cut back on my cheese consumption significantly, and put Greek yogurt in my smoothies as it is a good probiotic. I have done research on dairy and animal products on bone health, and have come up with the same conclusion you have. Other studies have shown that milk can have negative consequences, other than bone health. The dairy industry needs to promote their product.

  35. jajajajaaj June 26, 2015, 8:27 pm

    milk is one of the oldest beneficiary elements of human well being. fuck this idiot and his laughable ”studies”

    • george July 10, 2015, 11:10 pm

      Yeah!!! Love your comments!!

    • george July 10, 2015, 11:02 pm

      Jonathan, God does not punish us for drinking milk.That is stupid!!

    • LBM June 30, 2015, 11:07 am

      Watch the documentary Forks Over Knives on Netflix.
      Numbers don’t lie. The documentary is slow but has lots of good info. It opened my eyes and I really like almond milk it doesn’t make my stomach hurt or make me feel congested.

  36. MD June 25, 2015, 8:44 pm

    I just love when people write “studies have shown…” but there are no links to said study. Seems legit………

  37. Bob June 21, 2015, 10:07 pm

    Full of shit

  38. Mike June 17, 2015, 1:29 am

    The author seems to think that analogies are applicable between species. What may appear plausible may not in fact be true. Case in point, vaccines seem unnatural, but its hard to argue that they save lives.

    People are making too much out of one thing she said: that people who consume milk are more likely to have fractures. What we should focus on is its negative. Are Asian populations, which are mostly lactose intolerant, suffering from a larger incidence of fracture than the general public? If not, than maybe their vegetable intake is providing them with enough calcium. Then the question would become “is it better to drink a glass of milk or a kale shake if both have the same amount of calcium?” I think it would be hard to argue that milk has as much micronutrients as kale blended with an orange, for example. In other words, what is the difference between a cup of milk and a sip of soda with a calcium pill?

    Please note that I’m not taking sides on this debate. Im just pointing out some flaws on both sides. Nevertheless, feel free to vilify me and call me names.

  39. Sarah June 11, 2015, 7:46 pm

    Here is an article I found while searching for scientific backing to this article. I personally am still going to drink milk as it has no adverse effect on me at present time and I still believe it is a good source of calcium. As I read through the comments many people talked about the cruelty cattle are put through in order for us to get milk, as far I know and see every day the cattle are well looked after, but saying that I live in Ireland where they roam free in the fields, I don’t know what it is like in other countries. I also know that the use of hormones is banned in EU countries so that does not effect us or our cattle. Maybe,and this is my own personal opinion no scientific research to back this up, it would be a good idea for research to be done on the difference between milk from EU countries such as Ireland, and milk from america where as far as I know hormones and large scale cattle breeding is common, and see if the nutritional value and effect on people is different. I still believe that milk and dairy is good for you but if definite proof with large scale scientific backing is presented I won’t disagree. I still think that bottom line the most important thing is that we get the recommend amount of calcium, if some people get it from dairy produce and some don’t it shouldn’t be an issue, it is everyone’s own personal choice what they do with their body and people shouldn’t try to change that. This article I found talks about both sides of the argument as well as calcium and what it does for your body and gives a list of all sources of its information. I think people should give it a read and stop to think is it really any of their business what other people do with there own body whether its eating dairy or not, or eating meat or not. I believe that you should follow your own choices and be happy with them no matter what others are doing. Be a witness not a judge, focus on yourself not others, listen to you heart not the crowd.
    https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/calcium-full-story/

  40. Alexandra Barclay June 10, 2015, 6:51 pm

    I agree cows milk is bad for you- the studies over many years have shown that, but I drink raw goats milk, as I think it is just cows milk that is the problem, especially pasteurized. I do not agree soy or almond milk are beneficial because they are highly processed and have additives. Processed food, flour and sugar are to be avoided.
    Let’s face it, food that is natural is the way to go.

    • Shawn August 18, 2015, 2:11 pm

      Quit generalizing. Almond milk is hardly processed and does not always contain extra sugar. In fact, it contains far fewer calories and less sugar than milk. It also contains more calcium than cow or goat milk.

  41. thomas June 10, 2015, 3:17 am

    the amount of calcium lost due to protein consumption is extremely small you sheeple

    • thomas June 10, 2015, 3:18 am

      I meant to add that drinking milk/eating dairy still gives you a large net gain of calcium

  42. Louise Cass June 9, 2015, 1:39 pm

    I tend to be suspicious about drinking cow’s milk – have never really liked it and never consumed much BUT did develop osteoporosis – heredity. small frame, other medications such as cortisone contributed to this it is believed. However NOW doctors are telling us to consume milk and yogurt as calcium supplements are not easily absorbed by the body. I’m happy to use Almond milk BUT I’ve noticed that all brands contain varying amounts of Calcium Carbonate – I wish Ms Goldschmidt would comment on this

  43. Sarah :) June 7, 2015, 1:20 pm

    Hi. I use raw milk anymore.. and i just started making my own kefir out of it. The article said kefir is acid neutral but it is actually very acidic 4.5ph. I love the wonderful benefits of kefir but concerned about the ph. Does anyone know if the acid is neutralized in the body once digested like lemons or why the artical says it is acid neutral? Thank you.

  44. janet June 2, 2015, 9:35 pm

    Sorry, but I totally disagree with this article. For me milk is a good thing. I’ve been drinking milk all my life and feel wonderful. I am 55 , I exercise 4 times a week and eat plenty of vegetables. My nails grow quick due to all the calcium in my body. Not everyone on the earth is the same. For some of us milk might give you an upset stomach or other symptoms, but that isn’t everyone. My mother is 88 and my father is 96 and they still drink milk and never broke a bone. So this whole theory in my opinion is ridiculous.

    • The Truth June 9, 2015, 3:58 am

      Typical american response. You flail at the sound of your solidified beliefs getting challenged.

      I could say: Sorry, but i totally disagree with you. You inhale second smoke and various greenhouse gases. You’ve been breathing these smoked and gases all your life, and you feel great! You’re 55.

      See that fallacy you made there?

      You sound very stupid.

      • Ettercap June 25, 2015, 1:42 am

        She said she is 55 her mother is 88 and her father is 96 and all of them have been drinking milk for years and haven’t had any bone fractures or problems. You I’m guessing are a 20 year old and have the tenacity to claim she doesn’t have evidence when she’s twice or triple your age and you claim she lacks your experience?

        You fit the rude inconsiderate disrespectful vegan stereotype just stop it you make us all look bad. She said she thought it was ridiculous but still what you said was a personal attack and was childish.

        Again… She is 55 her mother 88 and father 96 they all drink milk, how is that not scientific evidence? People act like numbers on a sheet of paper are validity over life experience. I tend to be agnostic in most areas, I don’t pretend to know the know all solutions to longevity, anyone who says there is undisputable scientific evidence towards a theory can fool themselves and others. My suggestion to everybody I meet is keep your minds and eyes open or your just as those you oppose.

        • greg August 16, 2015, 3:22 am

          her example about her aged parents is not scientific evidence,it’s anecdotal- nothing scientific to be gained from her story,even assuming it to be true.

          • Billy Bill August 20, 2015, 3:09 am

            How many similar anecdotes would be needed before the sum of all these anecdotes qualify as scientific data? While I have your attention, how would you define scientifically, the difference between a research paper on why milk is good/bad that is full of quantitative data pulled from huge sample pools and a research paper on the same subject full of qualitative data pulled from observations, interviews, and the myriad other quantitative data collection tools? Please help me understand how these two papers differ scientifically.

      • Realist June 9, 2015, 8:34 pm

        Typical delusional vegan zealot response.
        Sorry to burst your bubble loser, the vegan revolution ain’t gonna ever happen 😉

        • X June 24, 2015, 2:28 pm

          I have no problem with people’s opinions when they are ACTUALLY backed up by EMPIRCAL EVIDENCE. Just saying you disagree with something just because or that you “feel” something is better because it has been hammered into you by other ignorant people OR because you want to quote an insufficient amount of examples with multiple variables (i.e. anecdotal) of what agrees with your false belief in the face of ACTUAL scientific evidence DOESN’T add anything to the conversation. I’m one of those people who doesn’t comment on anything on the Internet, but this kind of reasoning (or lack thereof) is dangerous. We seriously need to develop critical thinking and not just here but for every topic any of us encounter. Please. Great article.

  45. Mike May 30, 2015, 11:11 pm

    I’ve been drinking 8L of milk per week since 1994…I’ve been doing extreme mountain biking for many years, had a few falls, do roller skates and never broke a bone and I am rarely sick. I have less physical problem than people 10 years younger than I am and you want me to believe that your lactose intolerance is applicable to everyone on this planet? We always have those so called “scientists” who assume they know what they are talking about because of how they call themselves. If you can’t tolerate milk its your personal problem, don’t make it official that it is bad for all because it isn’t. Some can’t even tolerate nature itself with uncountable amount of allergies they suffer from, why don’t you scientists make an article about how bad nature is for your health and should be incarcerated in a house with filtered air?

    • Morgan June 6, 2015, 10:47 pm

      I see you feel very strongly about this article! I find it odd how our species is the only species that drinks the milk from another animal and drinks it for their entire life… And yes I see how you could link the lactose intolerance to allergies in that not everyone tolerate milk and the pollen, grass etc outside. I could say that smoking is not linked to lung cancer, and that is your own personal business because not everyone who smokes gets cancer. But the fact is cow milk is not meant for human consumption, but rather its own baby cow. If you don’t believe the research that is your choice but we are not cows and there is no reason to continue drinking cows milk.

      • LolWut June 19, 2015, 1:03 am

        Odd that we are the only species that drinks milk from another animal? Is it also odd that we are the only species that drive cars and use computers? I don’t see any other animals that are even capable of raising cows and milking them so that point you made is kind of dumb.

        • Madara Uchiha July 8, 2015, 3:40 am

          LOL exactly, humans are the only species with the intelligence & the ingenuity to be able to go about acquiring another species milk!

        • drpalmer June 24, 2015, 11:38 am

          I have yet to see a cat or other animal turn up their nose when I put out a bowl of milk or cream for them. Other animals do drink cows milk if it is provided for them. I have also seen articles and heard stories of dogs adopted by cats or vice versa where they nurse another animal. How many have used cows milk to help nurse puppies or other animals that have lost their mothers at birth? Everyone in our society is trying to find the ONE magical answer to everything. I heard someone say last night they never gave their children milk and they have always been healthy, so proof drinking milk is bad for you…the one thing they blame for health issues. We need to get beyond finding the one thing and realize if we use things in moderation, we are probably going to be healthy. Stopping all dairy consumption isn’t the answer anymore than stopping to eat all meat protein is the answer. Be moderate and you will be fine.

          • Shawn August 18, 2015, 2:20 pm

            I have a moderate amount of lead that I would like you to consume daily. Oh, you’re already on the lead regimen? Great, I can actually see results!

          • Jamel Uhuru August 17, 2015, 11:58 pm

            drpalmer, thank you so much. I have been on this thread for a few minutes and read some vitriolic statements. And I ask, all to what end? It is when you come online, that you will really discover the insane degree of bitterness in many people. I think the human race should rid itself of internal bitterness before attempting to study anything about the harmful effects of food.

            In all of these things, common sense is the underlying denominator. Just be moderate and you will indeed be fine.

  46. Julio May 15, 2015, 5:10 pm

    Hello. I am trained body-food connection. I am 100% sure that milk is 100% unhealthy. It feeds the unhealthy bacteria such as fungus and other parasites. It weakens bones, I am 100% sure, my body told me. You know very well inside your soul if you ask your body if you can eat or drink that shit, he will tell you NO, IT WILL KILL YOU. You just do not dare to ask. And you believe in nonsense such as science. If the body says is bad for you, there is no such is as science saying is healthy to drink milk. You know very well, if you ask your body, just take a sip of milk or dairy and hold it in your tongue and ask it to your belly or your navel, your gut. Ask it until a secure answer comes out, can I drink this? Can I really eat this? Ask until the answer comes out. Of course you wont answer because you know the answer very well or you just do not want to stop consuming dairy because you have an emotional dependency. I am 100% sure and so you are that the answer is NO. No need of science, just common sense and communication with your very body and guts. DUUHH People are so stupid nowadays, they THINK some foods are good for them but they do not FEEL they are good. Idiots. Also ny body told me we do not eat meat, we are herbivores and we eat mostly green stuff. If you ask you will get the answer, of course you wont because you are s scientific idiot and not a emotional reasonal human being. Emotional and instinctive sense: MILK AND DAIRY WILL KILL YOU AND RUIN YOUR HEALTH. Good luck with your science, in the end your body knows best and you’ll pay the price, nature has its ways of punishment when we do not follow are destiny and instincts. It’s an emotion call hate that’s just above joy. Poor and stupid Americans.

    • Dave June 7, 2015, 9:05 am

      “…..nonsense such as science”…… Hmmm credibility smashed.

    • Jeif May 26, 2015, 11:39 am

      Thank you for backing up your 100% claims with “common sense” and “my body told me.” I drink Milk, my body seems to like it. Haven’t had a broken bone or a fracture yet. Tastes pretty good too. My body told me so.

      • Morgan June 6, 2015, 10:54 pm

        Almond milk tastes really good too and your body will like it too! I stopped consuming dairy for the many reasons listed above, and when I became more conscious about how dairy harms myself, animals and the environment (animal agriculture). However, if one does not want to stop consuming dairy, one will find an excuse to continue consuming it.

        • dcnner July 9, 2015, 12:36 pm

          almond, soy and other milk substitutes are not super great either. you might want to look into it.

    • Chris May 20, 2015, 10:26 am

      Wow thank you, very well written. I too, wonder if you have any material that helps support this “listen to your body” matter, or any material that will show us that science is as you say nonsense.

    • Michael May 19, 2015, 8:21 am

      I’m interested in reading up further on this. Do you have links to case/clinical studies, research papers and the like?

  47. Andrew May 14, 2015, 9:26 am

    I really wanted to read an article that opposes drinking milk but I had to stop right after the first paragraph. Why? Because it is wrong.
    ”Doctors would also spit on wounds because saliva was believed to have healing properties”. You, who wrote the article, are you a biologist/chemist/nutritionist/doctor/researcher? Because if you are not, I don’t trust you. And if you are, shame on you for not learning basic facts.
    The human saliva, contains something called ”lysozyme”. They are enzymes which damage bacterial cells ( do some research if you don’t believe me ). Also, remember that time when you were a kid and you made a small cut on your finger? The first thing you did was put your finger in your mouth. Because the saliva has antibacterial effect.
    Thus, starting from your wrong introduction…I don’t think I am going to trust your article!

    • Jeif May 26, 2015, 11:42 am

      Yeah, I pretty much was thinking the same thing. Kept making claims like, “But many scientific studies have shown an assortment of detrimental health effects directly linked to milk consumption.” Then offers nothing. Just says stuff.

    • albert May 24, 2015, 7:02 pm

      Agree with andrew,this people who talk about how bad is milk ,do not have any serious training ,,medicine ,dietician ctc ,,i do not find any serious study of this issues ,
      to explaing Acido -Bases and physiology is a litle bit more complicated than Calcium and milk….

    • Christian May 17, 2015, 8:33 pm

      You are correct! Saliva contains many lysozyme and even nerve growing factors. However, the amount of bacteria in an individuals mouth is incredible. Our saliva immune protection is barely sufficient to protect our oral cavity from bacterial insults. Thus, spiting in an injury could result in more problems than remedies. If we had a sterile mouth i would say that spitting in an injury would be a great idea, but that is not the actual case.

  48. Anon May 11, 2015, 12:45 pm

    For all the naysayers that this article is nonsense, touting your so called science, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE look into who funded these scientific studies. Dairy cows are BIG (and I do mean BIG) business, and just like any other study, they can be – and are – bought. Many studies are done by universities and guess who funds universities? Big business. Do you think the university is going to get as much money and funding from the business if they find in their study something that harms the business? I love science, but science today is bought and paid for in so many ways.

  49. lakshay May 10, 2015, 5:17 am

    I stop the consumption of milk at the age of 16, now I am 20 and I have no problem.my doctor found my bones are healthy and heavy and calcium rich.
    he told me to stop drinking milk. as I have joint pain, and my bones are thin, he even told me to stop consuming any milk products like cheese, butter, ghee, curd, yogurt and ice-cream also. but I can’t quit ice-cream.
    so to meet my calcium needs or protein.
    I daily consumes soybean or coconut or almond wheat or sesame seed, peanuts, muskmelon seeds, sunflower seeds. any one of these,
    in form of milk, or soked in water at
    ate raw, or any way without cooked.

    • Brandon June 6, 2015, 5:53 pm

      Wait, you say your bones are healthy and heavy and calcium rich. Then you go on to say that your bones are thin. Which is it? I think, and I emphasize think, that people should do whatever they want as long as it’s done in moderation. I happen to drink lots of milk right now in effort to help me gain weight. Will I do it forever, no, but currently it’s helping me achieve my goal. I’m an extremely healthy eater and I supplement my diet with milk. I’m very active and healthy. I think eating McDonald’s every day is much worse than a pint or 6 of milk. Remember, drinking too much water can kill you.

      • Girija June 8, 2015, 4:10 pm

        Hi,
        I think everybody is different.
        I am vegrtarian and I love milk.
        I really feel good after drinking milk.
        At my home ppl are 90 plus and drinking milk forever. All are healthy .
        We love organic unpasturised milk.
        We are gluten free and white sugar free.
        I think that is the truth to good health.

    • albert May 24, 2015, 7:08 pm

      I have consume milk all my life and i am still consuming in large amount daily and i am 68 years old and i did not have a Fracture in my life and I am from a ethnic group that lack from an emzyme that break down lactose,,I did no found any serious article bout this informed yourself and then lets talk

    • Katie May 22, 2015, 2:20 pm

      I have largely cut out dairy from my diet as well and am doing fine without it. I have recently had a few different flavors of So Delicious ice cream made from almond milk which all 3 flavors I’ve tried have been, as the brand name states, SO DELICIOUS! :) I have had the praline crunch, mocha almond fudge, and the mint and chip. All three taste just like regular ice cream, but are dairy free! woohoo!

  50. Gergely May 4, 2015, 9:21 pm

    I was so stupid. I started arguing with people about how milk is unhealthy without looking for scientific evidence, and now that I tried to back up my claims, it turns out I was a complete idiot. I haven’t found a single study which proved that milk is unhealthy. My knowledge and logic is far better than the average and I haven’t lost a single argument in like the past 5 years… until now. Seriously, I thought I was a genius because of this. Now I can’t claim anymore that I NEVER lost an argument.
    And I believed milk was so unhealthy because of sites like this.
    Neither of these claims are supported by scientific evidence.

    • albert May 24, 2015, 7:16 pm

      this articules are very poor to explaing why Milk is bad ???

    • Eddie May 14, 2015, 3:23 pm

      it took me like a second to find studies about the negative effects of Milk. See below. Makes no sense why humans consume milk. There are much better and more superior forms of nutrition in the plant world than anything that comes from an animal.

      Michaelsson K, Wolk A, Langenskiold S, et al. Milk intake and risk of mortality and fractures in women and men: cohort studies. Bmj 2014;349:g6015.
      2. Lanou AJ. Should dairy be recommended as part of a healthy vegetarian diet? Counterpoint. The American journal of clinical nutrition 2009;89:1638S-42S.
      3. Dahl-Jorgensen K, Joner G, Hanssen KF. Relationship between cows’ milk consumption and incidence of IDDM in childhood. Diabetes Care 1991;14:1081-3.
      4. Malosse D, Perron H, Sasco A, Seigneurin JM. Correlation between milk and dairy product consumption and multiple sclerosis prevalence: a worldwide study. Neuroepidemiology 1992;11:304-12.
      5. Key TJ. Diet, insulin-like growth factor-1 and cancer risk. Proc Nutr Soc 2011:1-4.
      6. Kritchevsky D. Dietary protein, cholesterol and atherosclerosis: a review of the early history. The Journal of nutrition 1995;125:589S-93S.
      7. Gardner CD, Messina M, Kiazand A, Morris JL, Franke AA. Effect of two types of soy milk and dairy milk on plasma lipids in hypercholesterolemic adults: a randomized trial. Journal of the American College of Nutrition 2007;26:669-77.
      8. Youngman LD, Campbell TC. Inhibition of aflatoxin B1-induced gamma-glutamyltranspeptidase positive (GGT+) hepatic preneoplastic foci and tumors by low protein diets: evidence that altered GGT+ foci indicate neoplastic potential. Carcinogenesis 1992;13:1607-13.
      9. Spencer EH, Ferdowsian HR, Barnard ND. Diet and acne: a review of the evidence. Int J Dermatol 2009;48:339-47.
      10. Caffarelli C, Baldi F, Bendandi B, Calzone L, Marani M, Pasquinelli P. Cow’s milk protein allergy in children: a practical guide. Italian journal of pediatrics 2010;36:5.
      11. Rona RJ, Keil T, Summers C, et al. The prevalence of food allergy: a meta-analysis. J Allergy Clin Immunol 2007;120:638-46.

    • Gergely May 4, 2015, 9:37 pm

      PS.: I’m a bit relieved because I didn’t totally lose the argument. I claimed milk was not healthy, not that it is unhealthy(as I thought I did). “Not healthy” can be still not unhealthy, so somewhat neutral. It’s good proteins and carbs if you can digest it, and bad fats. If it’s from a pregnant cow, then it is uhealthy because of the hormones.

      • Audra May 15, 2015, 6:29 pm

        You don’t make any sense at all.

  51. Philip Tegner May 3, 2015, 10:44 pm

    This article says that populations in countries that drink the most milk (like the US) have the highest fracture rates. Could it be that the US population is also the fattest and carrying around all that excess weight contributes more to higher fracture rates than drinking more milk?

    • Milk Lover June 14, 2015, 6:51 pm

      People who are overweight are also most likely Vitamin D Deficient. Vitamin D is a FAT SOLUBLE vitamin that stores itself in fat stores. The fatter you are the MORE vitamin D you NEED. I think that makes more sense than Milk Causes fractures.

    • Brandon June 6, 2015, 5:57 pm

      @Philip Tegner Sir, I stand and applaud you.

      • Kellijoe1926 June 9, 2015, 3:36 am

        Exactly. Great example of correlation does not equal causation. It’s like saying this country experiencing greater instances of cardiovascular disease also has a higher intake of apples, therefore apples cause cardiovascular disease. It doesn’t work that way. It has to be backed by greater reasoning than “Well they drink a lot of milk, so that must be the cause.” There could easily be many more factors.

  52. Lachlan May 3, 2015, 4:37 am

    Hi, I just spent half an hour trawling through Google Scholar.

    I can’t find a single scientific paper to support the claims in this article, but found many papers from the last few years directly contradicting it.

    Did I miss something?

    • Haley May 10, 2015, 1:27 am

      No, you are being completely logical and intelligent. Articles like this are smut made for the population that will believe anything they read on the internet. Most people do not understand that a medical or scientific-related article NEEDS evidence-based research to prove that what they are saying is true. Ridiculous.

      • albert May 24, 2015, 7:18 pm

        agree this are not serious …

  53. kristin April 29, 2015, 6:24 pm

    Is anything good for you?????

    • Amanda Johnston May 3, 2015, 8:11 pm

      Yes! There are so many plants in this world that we have access to. Check out the benefits of Whole Food Plant Based Diet in this great video.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DCjwIVJmMw

    • Anon April 30, 2015, 10:34 am

      Lol yes there are many things that are good for you. A lot of articles will say one thing about something and the next another, but milk has an ongoing fact that will always be true: it is not as good for your bones as they (whoever it may be) say it is. Peace!

  54. Beth Vigliotti April 27, 2015, 5:50 pm

    I totally agree with your article. Milk has other damaging results like skin problems, etc. However I have been trying to give up milk for quite some time and have difficulty with all the milk substitutes. All the almond milks, oat milks, rice milks, cashew milks etc. taste very good but also are processed and have given me severe intestinal pain and gas due to the Carageenan, Guar gum and other fiber substitutes that are used in making milk substitutes. I just don’t know what to do at this point.

    • Neetu April 28, 2015, 7:08 am

      Make your own Milk at home free from any additives. You just need to soak almonds over night and churn in mixer next morning. Add water to your required consistency. There you go your milk is ready to be consumed. Hope it helps.

  55. Denise April 22, 2015, 4:56 pm

    Thank you for this fabulous article. I stopped eating dairy because of the acid content. I am also lactose intolerant. I will however remember to get some Kefir and now I know why yogurt and sour cream do not upset my stomach. I also use Almond milk, btw.

  56. Ronald Stimpson April 22, 2015, 1:03 am

    Please read a few hundred SCIENTIFIC articles explaining why this article is “utter” (Get it?!?) nonsense.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=milk+osteoporosis

    Those of you perpetuating the misinformation on this website should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves.

    • thankgodimnotstupid June 28, 2015, 8:20 pm

      your a fuckin idiot .

      • Ronald Stimpson is a fuckin idiot June 28, 2015, 8:38 pm

        “So forgive me if I discredit this author after she draws a conclusion about mammals (“they don’t drink milk when they grow up”) and then infers that that truth should apply to AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT SPECIES (humans).”

        Wow. Forgive me if I discredit you for completely misunderstanding what she said – and having absolutely no idea what you are talking about. First off, “mammals” is a monophyletic taxon – not another word for cow. Second, once a mammal is weaned that mammal never drinks their mothers milk again. Third, humans are mammals and once we are weaned we are never fed our mothers milk again. So I am not sure what your issue is.

        Just because WE drink another species milk, does not mean we are supposed to. No other mammal does this, which should tell us a lot about how unnatural it is………………………………………………….could not be a better explanation well done……….Ronald Stimpson is a fuckin idiot

    • Amanda Johnston May 3, 2015, 8:16 pm

      Hey. Here is a great video about the benefits of a whole food plant based diet.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DCjwIVJmMw

  57. M DeRoncey April 21, 2015, 9:58 pm

    Much of this is common sense. The simple observation that no other animal consumes milk after weaning encouraged my stance on milk long ago. I eat cheese and occasionally have ice cream, but I never have consumed milk as a beverage and don’t particularly care for it. I have never had a cavity or a broken bone but have never given my low intake of milk any credit for this. Our teeth are suited to a mixed diet of meat and vegetables and common sense tells me that’s what the body requires. I don’t require a label to tell me inhailing smoke from burning leaves and paper is bad for my lungs either. It is common sense that all natural foods are likely healthier than engineered ones, and I eat as much natural and organic food as possible. I believe that the body has the ability to adapt and can handle most anything in moderation. If people would just think a little bit about what they are consuming, we would all probably make better choices.

    • john doe April 27, 2015, 8:12 pm

      I too don’t care much for milk, but i had a really bad accident where i fractured all my ribs, the pain was too horrible to assimilate unless you’ve been through it. So i decided to drink alot of milk. Result=i gained alot of weight, cholesterol was high, stomach aches, intestinal bleading, ulcers, etc. Stopped drinking milk. Result=major weight loss, no more bleeding, no more ulcers, no more stomach aches. After reading this article, it all makes sense. It’s true, when the heck does any other adult animal drink milk in nature? They simply don’t. But you know, like tobacco, Borden and mccarthur need to make money. Sheeeesh. Anyways, I’d also like to know when you say animal protein, does that mean meat as well. I’m guessing yes, but please elaborate

    • Chris April 25, 2015, 3:06 pm

      If animal protien is causing the problem should I also not eat meat? I would also like sources fir any article

      • Amanda Johnston May 3, 2015, 7:58 pm

        Yes, Absolutely you should stop consuming all animal products. But do your research on a whole foods plant based diet, that is the best diet for ultimate health. Vegans can still be living off diet coke and oreos, that is not healthy. YouTube The Starch Solution, Prevent & Reverse Heart Disease, and check out Nutritionfacts.org

        • Vegan Hypocrisy 101 May 29, 2015, 7:56 pm

          “Yes, Absolutely you should stop consuming all animal products. ”

          According to Animal “Rights” terror cults, but not any objective or dependable scientific study.

        • Oldharborseal May 11, 2015, 11:01 am

          I read an article recently stating that vegetarians, vegans in particular had shorter lifespans and more trips to the doctor and were generally less healthy than people with a more rounded diet. The article said that they are thinner and in good physical shape. But it appears that the severe diet in the long run is not that healthful.

        • Lee May 4, 2015, 5:49 pm

          Amanda, go away with all your advertisements. And I’ve been drinking milk all my life (22), full fat, low fat whatever I have. Take it with cereal, porridge, drink it at dinner. Mix it with protein shakes. I have played full contact football, I have never broken a bone. Also, the reason in my opinion behind other animals not drinking other species milk is due to lack of knowledge, we have scientific proof showing the benefits of milk. It’s wholly nutritious and packed with proteins. this article is, excuse me, Bullshit. The ability to consume milk is a mutation, but those mutation that enhance our health generally stay. Studies showed people who consumed milk in comparison to those who were lactose intolerant where generally stronger and healthier (going back years people).

          • Alex June 9, 2015, 1:49 pm

            So? I can easily say the same. I’ve always hated cow’s milk and started drinking almond milk three years ago and I’ve never broken a bone either. That doesn’t mean jack shit.

          • Vegan Hypocrisy 101 May 29, 2015, 7:57 pm

            You’re in no position to talk, Eddie. You operate on belief, not objective science.

          • Eddie May 14, 2015, 3:18 pm

            Please list any such articles or studies. I would like to read them. Also, the article said the bone loss occurred later in life, so keep drinking milk, and check back in when your in your sixties. if you actually knew what they did to the cows to obtain the milk i can’t see how anybody would consume it. Talk about lack of knowledge.

  58. Lee Ford April 19, 2015, 11:11 pm

    I have noticed that when I drink milk or eat cheese I get extreme hot flushes. Even a little milk in coffee triggers the flushes.
    Something to think about!!!
    Lee Ford

  59. Janet C. April 19, 2015, 9:33 pm

    Us and our first world problems.

    • zack April 19, 2015, 10:13 pm

      I quit milk two years ago my knees feel great.I believe u 15minutes in sun and a salad will build bones

      • Amanda Johnston May 3, 2015, 8:00 pm

        You are correct, dark leafy greens are the way to get in your calcium. But not to worry if you don’t like greens as well, calcium is found in all plant foods, and by just cutting out all the animal products you are benefiting your bones already, but not breaking them down. I always tell people, “Where do you think the cows got their calcium…. The Grass!”

  60. BDB April 17, 2015, 12:36 am

    It truly fascinates me that your article states that there is a way to test the milk to see if the cow it came from has been injected with rBST. If a cow has been injected with rBST, there is no way it can be tested, also it does not change the components of the milk at all! rBST just causes the cow to eat more, which in turn leads to a higher milk production. So please, tell me where you got your sources. Thank you.

  61. amon April 13, 2015, 5:55 pm

    Care to provide a bibliography or otherwise cite your sources beyond “so-and-so made this claim”?

    • Anonymous April 24, 2015, 7:57 am

      I believe it, milk is not good for you. Do you know how horribly dairy cows are treated? People are mean to innocent animals. Milk really isn’t good for you though. I can’t prove this with anything other than my word, this website, and many more websites. Look it up. :)

    • BDB April 16, 2015, 6:21 pm

      I would love to have a bibliography too! I have consumed milk every day of my life, and I have NEVER broken a bone!

  62. Guirand Michel April 10, 2015, 2:22 am

    I’m not a big milk drinker. However, you seem to make a bit of sense. This is not hard to prove.
    Here is the experiment: take two groups of baby rats. Feed one group with milk and the other no milk. when they become big rats, measure their bone densities and you will get the answer. and make sure you send me your findings.

    • Amanda Johnston May 3, 2015, 8:14 pm

      They have done this study, you should read the book The China Study. It is an amazing book about what dairy does to lab rats in testing. Here is a video of Professor T. Colin Campbell Phd of Cornell University speaking about the book and his findings.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfsT-qYeqGM

  63. John April 8, 2015, 7:13 pm

    Read some recent comments and would like to give a statement to answer some. before finding this site i began doing research on osteoporosis after my wife had been diagnosed with it in her lower spine. I’ve done medical studies for years and my wife has been in the medical field for years so we have a good comprehension level of what we were reading.

    Everything we read here we either had already found or went on to do more research on it. We both put in months of research before and after this site. The information on this site is accurate. The milk information is accurate and and supported by numerous medical research documents. I’ve also learned that there are many other disorders and allergies that are related to milk and various dairy products.

    I have yet to see a grown calf still nursing. Once a child is old enough to go to solid food the mother cuts the baby off and nursing is over or bottles of milk or formula comes to an end. We do things like giving milk to our pets because we think it’s OK to do but in reality is it right. Even animals have intolerance, allergies and illnesses.
    Not everyone is intolerant to milk but the way it works in our systems is the same for all. The diet of cows, added drugs and hormones make it a not so great food choice.
    The FDA asked the dairy council to prove it was a healthy food but they could never prove it. The available medical research showed the opposite.

    if you have an issue with what you read here and think otherwise then leave, go spend the next year doing your own research. Just for the record the drugs doctors give for osteoporosis really are bad. Most companies are now or have been in class action law suits and you can easily read all about those law suits on line.

    My sister in law was on Boneva for three years, This woman once had perfect teeth before using Boneva. Now she is supporting the dentist and getting them replaced. Boneva commercials are off the air and the law suits are in progress.

    • Amanda Johnston May 3, 2015, 8:18 pm

      Thank you so much for your testimony, what a blessing that you all landed on the right information before it was to late. I think you will find this video interesting. If you have not heard of the YouTube station NutritionFacts.org, check it out… It is right up your alley.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DCjwIVJmMw

  64. Chris C April 6, 2015, 7:52 pm

    I am not a milk drinker but beg to differ with this all too common (in alternative medicine anyway) view about milk. Most studies suggest that milk leads to a positive calcium balance and thus is a bone supportive food. See Chris Kresser on the same topic:

    http://chriskresser.com/does-dairy-cause-osteoporosis

  65. kristine Marquier Varzal April 5, 2015, 6:53 pm

    Dear Vivian,
    Thankyou so much for your research over the years which
    is helping woman take control over their own health issues. ie my case Osteoporosis/Osteopenia. I do want to
    share with you that our library in Washington, Twp, Long Valley, N.J. will not order their own copy of “Save our Bones” because of the expense. $85.00 plus S/H. Is there a way that I can order your informative book for less. I would love to have my own copy for following your total protocol. Thankyou in advance. I just love reading your daily helpful healthful bone reversing protocol. Our library has been UNSUCCESSFUL in locating a copy for me to read. This has been going on for four months. All for now. Happy Easter to you and your family.
    Kristine

  66. Anna April 2, 2015, 8:50 pm

    Thanks for the information. I would like to share this with others. There is a lot about milk that people do not understand.

  67. Todd March 27, 2015, 1:49 am

    The hardest thing in statistics is performing research solid enough to conclude that your results apply to a population outside of the sample you studied. You have to have a random, unbiased sample of the population of interest to do this (say, women between 40 & 50 years of age), but you always have bias because people volunteer and you only get the ones who are already sick or whatever. In fact, you usually don’t get to draw a random sample – you just look at the data somebody else gathered for something else. It’s just too hard to do in most cases.

    So forgive me if I discredit this author after she draws a conclusion about mammals (“they don’t drink milk when they grow up”) and then infers that that truth should apply to AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT SPECIES (humans).

    • Rodney Von Hugeinstein March 28, 2015, 3:26 pm

      Imagine no religion.

      • Lindsay April 17, 2015, 11:57 pm

        “So forgive me if I discredit this author after she draws a conclusion about mammals (“they don’t drink milk when they grow up”) and then infers that that truth should apply to AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT SPECIES (humans).”

        Wow. Forgive me if I discredit you for completely misunderstanding what she said – and having absolutely no idea what you are talking about. First off, “mammals” is a monophyletic taxon – not another word for cow. Second, once a mammal is weaned that mammal never drinks their mothers milk again. Third, humans are mammals and once we are weaned we are never fed our mothers milk again. So I am not sure what your issue is.

        Just because WE drink another species milk, does not mean we are supposed to. No other mammal does this, which should tell us a lot about how unnatural it is.

        • Dylan May 3, 2015, 10:09 pm

          It’s being pretty well inferred that calf’s discontinue to drink their mothers milk and as a result we should not drink cow’s milk.

          Think about it for a second, step away from your need to condescend people and recognize it’s a fallacy. There are many reason a mammalian creature would be weaned from it’s mothers milk that do not relate to nutrition And we are after all, quiet a different species of mammal.

          • defoster May 13, 2015, 9:52 pm

            I am having a problem with the fact that grown animals don’t drink the milk of other animals, and that then means humans shouldn’t either. Animals can’t ‘milk’ other animals. They also don’t eat apple pie or food from McDonald’s. Not drinking it because it is bad for them and not drinking it because they can’t buy it from 7-11 are two different things. Just a thought.

  68. Todd March 27, 2015, 1:40 am

    So where are the statistics in the section about shocking statistics?

  69. Jesse March 27, 2015, 1:28 am

    How do we know this isn’t a lie? First off, comparing milk to superstitions of rabbits feet or healing spit doesn’t mean anything. Just because there’s been debunked things in the past that doesn’t automatically make milk one of them.

    Next, there’s gotta be more to what factors significantly into bone health than whether or not you drink milk. Those 77,761 women could’ve had more breaks for different reasons.

    Next, people on both sides of a dispute will have scientific “proof” of what they find true. They could throw any science talk at us and we’d believe it since I’m sure most all of us don’t know anything about what they’re saying. We just accept it and stick to it even though we don’t understand it ourselves.

    As for wanting us to believe it’s good just to sell more of it, it’s valid to a point, but think about how many times you see almond milk and other milk substitutes advertised on TV. This could also very well be some article to get people to buy milk substitutes just as much as you claim they try to sell real milk.

    There’s also that thing about people saying “milk is for babies”. Yes, baby animals and even baby humans drink it for sustenance in their early stage of life, but since when have human beings worked exactly the way your typical animal does. There’s so many things we do that’s abnormal from animal behavior. Actually, I’m sure there’s animals, like cats for example, that will drink milk even after they’ve grown up.

    The next issue people have is when they say that it’s bad for us because it’s meant to grow calves into seven hundred pound adult cows and bulls. I doubt that a single person will drink as much as a calf needs to every day to mature into a healthy adult, and a calf will feed on milk exclusively if I’m not wrong unlike your average person. So what we do drink can’t really hurt us that much if at all.

  70. Tiffany March 26, 2015, 11:18 am

    I have started drinking Almond or Soy milk because I want to keep my bones strong and healthy, but I was confused when I noticed that the carton advertises that it has a hefty percentage MORE calcium than cow’s milk? Is this something to avoid, or because it is calcium from plants it’s okay? So confused!!

    • Berto April 20, 2015, 9:02 pm

      They add calcium to it. In fact almond milk only has around 2% almonds in it, the rest its just water and quimicals.

  71. loraine March 25, 2015, 1:08 am

    I have never been a lover of milk and for the last 20 years I have not used milk to drink at all (Only in occasional cooking recipes) . I am over 50 and have now been diagnosed with osteoporosis. Also only for the last year I have used sunblock but only after 20 min in the sun. All the other things I have done naturally except for the non fluoride toothpaste, the smoothie and the soda (occasionally) . What has caused it then?

    • this is bs. May 6, 2015, 11:12 pm

      Lack of exercise. Sedentary lifestyles don’t stimulate the body to store calcium. Resistance exercise or manual labor, make the muscle strain where they are attached to the bone making the body strengthen bone.

  72. Steve "Dog Eat" Dawg March 9, 2015, 3:25 pm

    First, to the astronomy guy that is accusing milk of being a bonebreaker, maybe if you weren’t a window, it wouldn’t be such a problem that you were always breaking.

    Second. Humans weren’t meant to eat about 99.9% of what we now eat. We also weren’t meant to live much beyond the age of 35. I say, eat, drink milk, and appreciate the fact that aliens have given us science that allows us elves to live well into our 900s (like Methusaleh). Ode to Orion’s Belt, and cows everywhere.

    • Nefer-Ra March 9, 2015, 3:54 pm

      If you new your history you would know the average age in Greece was 22 years olds and when they ran into the Africans in Kmt (Egypt ) the average age was 110 and we wasn’t drinking breastmilk from cows

      • orly March 23, 2015, 1:49 am

        Africa had the first domestic cattle,evidence points to pastoral nomads not killing their animals for food but did use their milk and blood.
        Africa has 5 separate gene mutations for lactose tolerance.
        compared to the entire rest of the world that has 1

  73. Cowlilei Cowlileo March 9, 2015, 3:16 pm

    I’ve noticed recently that every time I drink a glass of milk, my jaw breaks. Furthermore, when I drink chocolate milk, my clavicle crackackles. So I think it is true that milk breaks bones. Bonebreaker.

  74. m March 9, 2015, 12:20 pm

    Your almond milk substitute supposedly is linked to cancer as the ingredient they use to prevent it from separating is carcinogenic. Uh oh. Better get a new sustitute.

    • Tyler March 14, 2015, 6:21 pm

      Not to mention in this article the FDA also allows a fairly large amount of somatic cells from infected cows (these cows can also be organic) which is aka: Pus.
      Someone else mentioned that carageean is in almond milk which is a cancerous derivative of seaweed. If you buy silk almond milk it doesn’t contain this ingredient and is non gmo.

    • john March 10, 2015, 6:36 am

      Are you talking about carageenan? There are non dairy milks including almond milk without carageenan.

  75. SidThekid February 27, 2015, 2:16 am

    We had a dog that we fed milk all the time along with wheat bread. That was about 30 years ago when I was about 10-12 yrs. of age. My daughter recently got a puppy and doctor strictly prohibited milk and wheat products. Does it prove that ignorance is bliss.? And hey, the dog we had in my childhood never had any problem. So we can remove the analogy of drinking milk of another species. Rest of the discussion, lets carry on, it hasn’t reached the climax yet.

    • Alex June 9, 2015, 1:51 pm

      And I have five cats who all vomit almost instantly after drinking milk. Your point?

      • Sindy August 13, 2015, 10:15 am

        shows what you know, cats are lactose intolerant

        buy special lactose free cats milk

    • Just Someone February 27, 2015, 10:53 am

      I shall call you all BOBBERT !!!

  76. Bob February 25, 2015, 1:38 pm

    You are not a doctor, so you can’t prove this.

    • Bobby February 25, 2015, 2:34 pm

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          • Bob February 25, 2015, 2:45 pm

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  77. Jeremy Gillespie February 23, 2015, 5:16 am

    The arguments posted here are half hearted and in turn, wrong. If the entire argument that milk is bad is because of it’s PH level, then we should also not eat any of these foods either…

    http://www.rense.com/1.mpicons/acidalka.htm

    Before scrolling, I beg everyone, please read and do your own research. Don’t trust articles that reference medical journals and don’t even provide links. Use your brains. The concept that milk helps bones has been seen not for the past 20 years but the past 2000+ years, ever since we started drinking milk. Professional power lifters that hoist 800-1200 pounds around are all avid milk drinkers. Please…do your own research…

    ACIDIFYING VEGETABLES
    Corn
    Lentils
    Olives
    Winter Squash

    ACIDIFYING FRUITS
    Blueberries
    Canned or Glazed Fruits
    Cranberries
    Currants
    Plums**
    Prunes**

    ACIDIFYING GRAINS, GRAIN PRODUCTS
    Amaranth
    Barley
    Bran, oat
    Bran, wheat
    Bread
    Corn
    Cornstarch
    Crackers, soda
    Flour, wheat
    Flour, white
    Hemp Seed Flour
    Kamut
    Macaroni
    Noodles
    Oatmeal
    Oats (rolled)
    Quinoa
    Rice (all)
    Rice Cakes
    Rye
    Spaghetti
    Spelt
    Wheat Germ
    Wheat

    ACIDIFYING BEANS & LEGUMES
    Almond Milk
    Black Beans
    Chick Peas
    Green Peas
    Kidney Beans
    Lentils
    Pinto Beans
    Red Beans
    Rice Milk
    Soy Beans
    Soy Milk
    White Beans

    ACIDIFYING DAIRY
    Butter
    Cheese
    Cheese, Processed
    Ice Cream
    Ice Milk

    ACIDIFYING NUTS & BUTTERS
    Cashews
    Legumes
    Peanut Butter
    Peanuts
    Pecans
    Tahini
    Walnuts

    ACIDIFYING ANIMAL PROTEIN
    Bacon
    Beef
    Carp
    Clams
    Cod
    Corned Beef
    Fish
    Haddock
    Lamb
    Lobster
    Mussels
    Organ Meats
    Oyster
    Pike
    Pork
    Rabbit
    Salmon
    Sardines
    Sausage
    Scallops
    Shellfish
    Shrimp
    Tuna
    Turkey
    Veal
    Venison

    ACIDIFYING FATS & OILS
    Avacado Oil
    Butter
    Canola Oil
    Corn Oil
    Flax Oil
    Hemp Seed Oil
    Lard
    Olive Oil
    Safflower Oil
    Sesame Oil
    Sunflower Oil

    ACIDIFYING SWEETENERS
    Carob
    Corn Syrup
    Sugar

    ACIDIFYING ALCOHOL
    Beer
    Hard Liquor
    Spirits
    Wine

    ACIDIFYING OTHER FOODS
    Catsup
    Cocoa
    Coffee
    Mustard
    Pepper
    Soft Drinks
    Vinegar

    ACIDIFYING DRUGS & CHEMICALS
    Aspirin
    Chemicals
    Drugs, Medicinal
    Drugs, Psychedelic
    Herbicides
    Pesticides
    Tobacco

    ACIDIFYING JUNK FOOD
    Beer: pH 2.5
    Coca-Cola: pH 2
    Coffee: pH 4

    • Fred in Victoria April 10, 2015, 7:05 pm

      The key word in foods we eat is balance – for optimum health a pH that is slightly alkaline is what you want.

    • Mo March 25, 2015, 12:17 pm

      Shit then what should we eat?

    • Stuart March 16, 2015, 8:50 am

      But Celery is OK right ? I hope so as that’s all I eat.

    • Marcelo March 1, 2015, 10:11 am

      I’m totally agree with you. Do your own research and don’t trust in any kind of information. Obviously you will find a lot of information against dairy products in vegan Pages.

  78. kindelan February 16, 2015, 6:26 pm

    At first all was cool, cow milk isn’t meant for humans, mother’s milk is. Great, then the analysis of milk is made and the protein content is over three times that of human milk, etc., and commercial milk is crap, most of us know that, but then we get to the end and almond milk is suggested and even recommended, but the ingredients are not only questionable but harmful: Almondmilk (Filtered Water, Almonds), Cane Sugar, Sea Salt, Locust Bean Gum, Sunflower Lecithin, Gellan Gum., but then, even though the ingredients are crap, soy milk is recommended along with rice milk. I threw in the towel then and said, Vivian Goldschmidt is weird or a vegan, which is one of the same. I will now go further and read more rational and science based reports, very disappointing to find biases and then have crap products that are worse than raw milk by far and what’s the thing with yogurt? This woman quotes from some good data but then goes maniacal with soy, almond and rice milk, plus her statement on yogurt can’t be trusted, personally, I like milk (raw and from pastured animals), home made yogurt and kefir but what are the findings regarding health for the latter two? I will start my search now.

  79. Merriann Ann February 15, 2015, 6:22 pm

    I read so much of about what is bad for you, l have nearly quit eating. Its repulsive!

    • stephen February 19, 2015, 12:57 pm

      I agree there is a lot of foods that are debatable the best thing is just to worry more about what we should be eating and not too much what we shouldn’t

    • MilkDrinker48 February 16, 2015, 8:55 am

      I dont care im still gonna drink it

  80. Como February 15, 2015, 9:46 am

    Stuff everyone’s comments about milk’s positive or negative affects on our health. It doesn’t matter whether it is good or bad for our health. The main reason you shouldn’t have milk is because the majority of it is sourced from an industry that is inherently cruel and corrupt. One which treats living, breathing creatures who ARE sentient (whether you would like to accept that truth or not), as nothing more than a commodity. And yes, maybe one or two of you may run very small dairy operations, and maybe you care for your cows, but those kinds of operations can nowhere near accommodate the global demand for milk and dairy products. So most of what you are all consuming comes from an industry that treats female cows like milk machines and which treat day old bobby calves as waste products or send them off to veal farms to live out their very short lives in dark sheds. When you buy milk or dairy you are making a choice to directly fund this industry. I choose to boycott an industry which perpetuates such violence and which lacks any value for life and if you were a moral, caring human you would try and overcome your conditioning and take a long hard look at your milk lust!

    • razorstream March 4, 2015, 10:04 pm

      I agree with everything you said except that ALL living things are sentient.

    • eyor February 16, 2015, 6:01 pm

      What do you think humans do to eachother?
      death is death no matter if it is on a farm or I go out and shoot it.

      • E February 26, 2015, 9:53 pm

        Humans don’t breed and slaughter billions of humans a day. Why is that okay to do to another living species? Have some compassion.

  81. Shlomo February 15, 2015, 9:35 am

    The amount of people on here who have no idea about science, yet who are claiming what they say as “scientific” is beyond ridiculous! And then there are those that are arguing their case with things like, “my momma told me milk was good for me, so it must be.” Did some 5th graders get a hold of the comments section?

    • Justin February 15, 2015, 11:37 am

      I’d like to see some of the resources or “studies” they used to write this article. If they can’t put their refrences at the bottom of the page, I won’t believe a word out of their mouth. Plus who believe a website called saveourbones.com as an accredited medical site?

      • Louis February 25, 2015, 9:39 pm

        The sources ARE cited at the ends of quotes and paragraphs throughout the article

        • Andy May 12, 2015, 10:34 am

          No, they are not.

  82. carolyn asummerville February 10, 2015, 2:58 pm

    I disagree with you on soy because it has caused breast cyst in me and it wasn’t due to something else because I did an experiment on myself . I avoided soy for a few
    weeks and no cysts and then I ate soy and the cysts came back immediately.
    My doctor told me I would have to find other means of protein so I avoid soy like
    the plague. I feel that coconut milk is the best form of milk alternative along
    with almond. I feel rice milk is to high in carbohydrates and has little else to offer.
    I do have osteoporosis . I am interested in your program but wasn’t sure if it was something I should do because of all the scams on the interenet.
    I know that milk is really not made for human consumption. I lknow that when I
    was a baby my mom started me on cows milk 6 months after I was born and I started getting very sick and continued to be sick for a very long time, they just
    didn’t make the connection about the milk and my sickness so I was subjected to
    it all my life and had all kinds of health issues. I finally stopped drinking milk after
    I got married and didn’t drink any for years, but did eat a little yogart but mostly
    just took probiotics. Please contact me if you can I would love to talk more about
    this issue.
    Thank You
    Carolyn

    • Sindy August 13, 2015, 10:20 am

      that would not cause your cyst to imedietly return. cysts usuly for after 3/4 weeks of being treted. you have an ongoing prblem and need to find a tretment for whats causing the cysts. because i can tell you its not stabelizers

  83. Ivy February 9, 2015, 5:41 pm

    My kids doctors never suggested milk exactly,but calcium was important.Allthe products milk related.
    I’m careful with any article that is very pro or anti some product or another.Citing studies from some scientist.
    I don’t trust those studies,because of faulty info,bias,etc.
    And soy milk isn’t the answer either if you want to talk about bad for you!
    Everything in moderation.As other of us non doctors have said.
    And according to the persons body,adjustments needed should be made for sure.

  84. kelly February 8, 2015, 4:30 pm

    Milk is crap. Ad agencies have done a great job of duping those who drink it.

  85. Pavel Niechwiej February 7, 2015, 6:46 pm

    Moderation, moderation…
    I do drink up to 2 litres of milk daily, and I will send a report if I break a bone.

    • Niranjan Palakoor February 21, 2015, 10:47 am

      2 liters of milk a day ! That’s some moderation

  86. GetReal February 3, 2015, 1:48 pm

    I think it’s probably OK to drink raw milk from grass-fed cows who are not fed hormones or antibiotics. Of course, I can’t get my hands on that type of milk – it’s illegal to sell it in this state!

    However, I drank commercial milk for many years and FINALLY realized that it was contributing to my constant sinus and ear infections. Once I stopped drinking it, the infections disappeared. Oh yeah, and my bones got stronger – two bone density tests proved that.

    Raw milk is a nice supplement to a health diet, but whoever sold us the “3 glasses a day” B.S. should be exiled to a remote island.

  87. Princess February 2, 2015, 5:16 am

    There’s got to be moderation in everything. Too much of everything reverses the function of it. The doc didn’t say Milk consumption is bad, but said too much is…

  88. Lori January 31, 2015, 5:51 pm

    I find it ironic the person preaching the evils of drinking milk has osteoporosis! The writer isn’t really a credible source when he/she has a disease of bone density loss attributed to lack of calcium and minerals. For his/her own sake, maybe the writer should quit being defiant and listen to what 99.9% of credible dr.’s say and drink milk and take Fosomax before the condition gets even worse. Just sayin.

  89. Zoe Duncan January 24, 2015, 4:40 am

    This article is “udder” nonsense. It’s filled with half truths, “educated” guesses, pseudo-science and snake oil medicine.

    Milk does NOT turn the body acidic. Milk itself is a base. Base PH NEUTRALIZES Acid PH. Your body does not overcompensate and become acidic when a base is consumed no more than the body becomes basic when acids are consumed (unless consumed in MASSIVE quantities, quantities that would kill you by over hydration… just as water would). To get the effects outlined in this article, you’d have to mainline milk. How many of us are hooked up to a milk IV?

    It’s common knowledge our bodies do not easily absorb calcium, from milk or ANY OTHER source… without vitamin D. Vitamin D allows us to more easily absorb and use calcium, hence why it’s added to milk (and most calcium vitamins).

    On an anecdotal note, I have guzzled milk for 37 years simply for the delicious enjoyment, and I have NEVER broken a bone, including several times I should have. My genetics and family history tell me that my teeth should be crumbling out of my head by now, and although I have cavities, my teeth are amazingly strong for the state they’re in.

    This article, and website it’s attached to is designed to do one thing, frighten you into purchasing their products. They are here for one reason, to make money, and they aren’t afraid to libel milk to do so.

    Never listen to only one voice. Do your homework and do your own research. Nullius In Verba.

    • Justin February 15, 2015, 11:41 am

      About time someone said something smart. I can’t argue enough against this site and it’s B.S. it stats all thesender studies are saying milk is no good. Yet it doesn’t have one reference to any of these said studies. Do people actually believe this shit?

    • Robert February 10, 2015, 3:51 pm

      You couldn’t be more right! this article is utter non-sense. it’s so pathetic when sites like this arise pushing false information to get people to buy their products. whats even worse is that these sites also falsely claim to have the full support of certain scientific studies. the studies and trials mentioned in the article above only somewhat barely support the contention of the author, none of them even remotely said that milk makes your bones weaker.

    • Zoe Duncan January 24, 2015, 5:11 am

      Correction. I said milk is a base which isn’t accurate. In reality, the PH of milk is VERY close to the Neutral PH of 7. In litmus it would actually test as ever so slightly acidic. It does have other components that, especially when consumed, trends to the base side of the scale. This is partly why rennet begins the separation of curd and whey. Acid is only one chemical component of digestion, your saliva and intestinal juices have all sorts of enzymes and compounds that aid in digesting all sorts of components of our food. There is no single chemical responsible for digestion, and stomach acid does not and cannot break down food on it’s own.

      Drinking way too much milk is just as detrimental as drinking too little milk (in different ways). Moderation is key, as with all things.

      • Bob February 26, 2015, 6:25 pm

        Hi Zoe

        The body is not made acidic by consuming foods that are acidic. Some foods turn the body more acidic and others more alkaline but this is not related to the pH of the food itself. Milk is not good for you.

  90. Abriella January 22, 2015, 12:46 pm

    I for one disagree with this article- albeit, not COMPLETELY.
    See, I’m guessing you’re an adult, well, my mom once told me that adults had less tolerance for milk, she never explained why, so I always figured t was just bad for their health.
    However, she told me that yoghurt, which just so happens to be made out of milk, was good for preventing certain diseases due to certain bacteria which help to boost your immunity.
    Furthermore, I would like to point out that our stomachs, which contain hydrochloric acid and are covered with an alkaline barrier would need something to keep them going, namely acids, or else they would become neutral and no food would get digested.
    And lastly, may I point out that here you mention the downsides of milk, as it is “acidic” but, may I ask, what about stuff like lemonade, which, correct me if I’m wrong, contains more acid than milk?
    My point stands that you can’t just point out the flaw in one product without: research (which I’m seeing you have), investigations (ma’am you’d have to pull them off yourself, or it’d just fall under research) and evidence.
    I rest my case, and thank you to those who read for reading this.
    -Abby

    • Devin January 22, 2015, 4:09 pm

      You make some good points, Abby. I’ll address them in order. First, it is possible that as humans develop into older age, their bodies lose the capabilities they once had that allowed milk to be digested more easily, so your mom may be right. This does not necessarily mean, however, that milk is healthy. It could mean that the unhealthy effects of milk are experienced less in younger humans compared to older humans.

      Second, yogurt, although it is made with milk, loses some of the harmful aspects of milk through the fermentation process and gains some beneficial aspects through this process. Yogurt is fermented with bacteria, and consuming these bacteria can be beneficial for humans because it helps to add healthy bacteria to the colon. As you mentioned, this can boost the immune system because these intestinal bacteria play an important role in human immunity. However, depending on the overall health of a person’s colon, any kind of dairy, including yogurt, could potentially cause harm. We can conclude here that yogurt is in some ways healthy for humans but is still unhealthy in some ways.

      Third, the stomach actually produces its own acid! It is called gastric acid, and you can learn more about it by searching for gastric acid in Wikipedia.

      Fourth, although certain foods, such as tomatoes, lemons, and other fruits, are acidic before being eaten, they actually become alkaline within the body because of how they are digested. I don’t know much about this process, but I do know that this is the case. Other substances, like milk, become acidic after digestion. When discussing the pH of foods, it is normally the post-digestion pH that is used.

      Keep up the research and keep contributing! Never stop asking questions. Question everything!

      Love and respect,
      Devin

  91. AJ January 22, 2015, 7:51 am

    Has anyone thought that the reason animals don’t drink milk past infancy is because they’re to big to suck on their mother’s teets and she might be gone by then anyway?!

  92. tyrone gibson January 20, 2015, 2:43 pm

    i like fried chicken and milk… milk is good

    • Brian February 12, 2015, 1:42 am

      awesome

  93. Lilian January 19, 2015, 12:19 pm

    Basically what we should do is to take it moderately, everything should be taken in moderation, I found out that an excess of anything at all, even the so called healthy stuff, cause harm to the body. The people who had bone fracture problems because they tool dairy milk had such problems because they took an excess of it regularly. The high calcium and protein contained in milk can not be neglected because of some side effect which arises of course from excess intake of milk. To all we need do is to create a balance. by taking it in moderately.

    • Brian February 12, 2015, 1:46 am

      I bet we should be all worried about grilling food and microwaves too. Ill take my chances. Il prob have a smoke and feel sorry for all people that want to live until they are 100. (and from a healthcareperspective) Next will be a discussion of nitrates

      • Aaliyah March 28, 2015, 1:07 pm

        I am drinking strawberry milk it is so sweet to me I can stop drinking it I always won’t

  94. Natasha January 17, 2015, 4:10 pm

    Just with the knowledge that milk contains artificial hormones and antibiotics should make you think that it might be not the best idea to eat it or even feed it to your children.
    Other than that milk, it is one of the most cruel productions as cows are kept overcrowded, imprisoned, having to have their calf taken away the minute after giving it birth.
    Animals are not product, they have lives just like you and me and they shouldn’t suffer because of our ignorance.
    I have had endometriosis that went away after I stopped milk products. Now I know that milk is not for me.

  95. A Guest January 16, 2015, 1:24 pm

    Moderate intake of milk is fine.

    http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/calcium-full-story/

  96. Dr. Dixie January 14, 2015, 8:09 am

    When you think of drinking milk….ask yourself these questions.
    1. What animal, besides humans, drinks milk outside of infancy?
    2. What animal, besides humans, drinks another animal’s milk?

    Just because media/advertising/ cute slogans has convinced you that milk is good for you doesn’t make true. There is way more calcium and vitamin D3 in other foods. If you are concerned about bone density…..eat some kale and lift some weights. Wolfe’s Law

    • SidThekid February 27, 2015, 1:58 am

      We had a dog that we fed milk all the time along with wheat bread. That was about 30 years ago when I was about 10-12 yrs. of age. My daughter recently got a puppy and doctor strictly prohibited milk and wheat products. Does it prove that ignorance is bliss.? And hey, the dog we had in my childhood never had any problem. So we can remove the analogy of drinking milk of another species. Rest of the discussion, lets carry on, it hasn’t reached the climax yet.

    • Max February 16, 2015, 12:27 am

      What animal besides humans can type? What animal besides humans uses computers? What animal besides humans have powerplants? What animal besides humans have Internet? What animals besides humans have been to space? What animals besides humans drive cars? What animals besides humans build skyscrapers? Why animals besides humans purify their water because of bacteria? What animals besides humans go to restaurants? What animals besides humans…

    • Jay January 17, 2015, 4:38 am

      What other animal, besides humans, wears clothes?
      What other animal, besides humans, drinks anything but pure table water (most human’s I’ve met have never even drunk a simple unflavoured cup of pure water in decades).
      What other animal, besides humans, does not eat only what it itself has hunted, gathered, or scavenged.

      Humans are a lot of exceptions to animals, milk being one of them, and just because other animals don’t do it does not mean it is bad for humans.

  97. Andrew Rockliffe January 12, 2015, 9:03 am

    The biggest lesson we can all learn is to forget the rhetoric, forget the claims, just look at the number and nature of the comments. 2,680 comments, many vitriolic, many personal attacks, many implying that people have no right to comment unless they have a Phd. Most of the other discussions on this site manage to get 10-30 comments. This methodology is repeated ad nauseam across the internet, on any subject which questions long held ‘beliefs’. Work it out yourselves.

  98. Yoke January 7, 2015, 3:18 pm

    I totally agree with Chris’s response. This author is claiming that by consuming milk you’re going to raise your blood pH acidity. As if that has anything to do with causing your body to leach calcium from your bones.

    If that’s the case, then anyone who works out, especially body builders, who have very high blood acidity and keystones must also have weak bones?

    It’s common science that anyone who lifts weights or exercises will have elevated keystones and blood pH. So must we all stop working out to keep our bones strong??

    • Dr. Dixie January 14, 2015, 8:00 am

      Wolfs Law: Bone under pressure will build bone. Example: Arthritis

      So milk is damaging but the weight lifting is the most beneficial for bone density. It’s all about moderation.

  99. Ched January 6, 2015, 8:26 am

    bone* density …

    Site needs edit option…

  100. ched January 6, 2015, 8:18 am

    Wow, a self proclaimed non-milk-drinker is diagnosed as having osteoporosis and then takes the time to write a long ass article saying why milk is bad for you.

    Self proclaimed milk-drinker here, bones 18% denser than average.

    Landed on my wrists after tripping backwards, did not break forearms. Had an X-ray done and that’s when none density was discovered.
    Only sprained them.

    • Darcy January 16, 2015, 5:42 pm

      Correlation does not imply causation. The fact you didn’t break a bone is not proof that milk made your bones strong. There are other factors that play as well. It’s like saying “my mom smoked cigarettes all her life and didn’t get lung cancer, so cigarettes don’t cause lung cancer”. We need a bigger sample size.

      30 percent of the world’s population drink cow’s milk. There are higher incidences of osteoporosis in people who do drink milk than those who don’t drink milk. That’s a sample size I can swallow.

      How healthy is pasteurized milk (which the majority of people drink) compared to raw milk? Here is a study that fed 2 calves the different milk and then compared the results. Grant you it’s a small sample size but I think the point is made and a larger study should be undertaken.

      https://thebovine.wordpress.com/2010/06/04/the-tale-of-two-calves-one-calf-got-raw-milk-the-other-pasteurized/#more-16769

      • Max February 16, 2015, 12:33 am

        Wouldn’t the higher rate of diagnosed osteoporosis be a result of the fact that regions that drink milk tend to be more technologically and medically advanced than regions that do not, therefore there is a greater amount of testing and reporting of osteoporosis in the former regions than the latter?

        • Chang March 4, 2015, 11:50 am

          Also, perhaps the higher rate of osteoporosis in milk-drinkers could be due in part to those people who are already aware of their family’s history of osteoporosis and thus try to prevent further damage by drinking more milk? I read a report that said that it’s quite possible that milk is more a “neutral” substance than a “bad” one, in the sense that it won’t heal you from osteoporosis or make your bones much stronger than if you didn’t drink milk, but it isn’t going to destroy your bones either, as long as you drink it in moderation.

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