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Debunking The Milk Myth: Why Milk Is Bad For You And Your Bones

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Did you know that in Medieval England parents would tie rabbits’ feet around their babies’ necks to ward off illness? Doctors would also spit on wounds because saliva was believed to have healing properties.

Indeed, history is replete with unfounded health beliefs, and to everyone’s detriment, the milk myth is among the most tenacious.

Milk is much more than just a drink; it’s a cultural phenomenon that can be traced back thousands of years. And still today, the milk myth resonates loud and clear: in 2001, the average American child consumed 104 quarts of cow’s milk.

Milk depletes the calcium from your bones

The milk myth has spread around the world based on the flawed belief that this protein and calcium-rich drink is essential to support good overall health and bone health in particular at any age. It is easy to understand that the confusion about milk’s imaginary benefits stems from the fact that it contains calcium – around 300 mg per cup.

But many scientific studies have shown an assortment of detrimental health effects directly linked to milk consumption. And the most surprising link is that not only do we barely absorb the calcium in cow’s milk (especially if pasteurized), but to make matters worse, it actually increases calcium loss from the bones. What an irony this is!

Here’s how it happens. Like all animal protein, milk acidifies the body pH which in turn triggers a biological correction. You see, calcium is an excellent acid neutralizer and the biggest storage of calcium in the body is – you guessed it… in the bones. So the very same calcium that our bones need to stay strong is utilized to neutralize the acidifying effect of milk. Once calcium is pulled out of the bones, it leaves the body via the urine, so that the surprising net result after this is an actual calcium deficit.

Knowing this, you’ll understand why statistics show that countries with the lowest consumption of dairy products also have the lowest fracture incidence in their population (there’s more on this later).

But the sad truth is that most mainstream health practitioners ignore these proven facts. I know it firsthand because when I was diagnosed with osteoporosis, my doctor recommended that I drink lots of milk in addition to taking Fosamax.

Fortunately, I did neither, because I knew that…

Cow’s milk is custom-designed for calves

Thanks to our creative ingenuity and perhaps related to our ancient survival needs, we adopted the dubious habit of drinking another species’ milk. Nobody can dispute that cow’s milk is an excellent food source for calves. Weighing around 100 pounds at birth, a calf typically gains approximately eight times its weight by the time it is weaned. But unlike humans, once calves are weaned, they never drink milk again. And the same applies to every mammalian species on this planet.

Also, each mammalian species has its own “designer” milk, and cow’s milk is no exception. For example, cow’s milk contains on average three times the amount of protein than human milk which creates metabolic disturbances in humans that have detrimental bone health consequences.

It’s important to bear in mind that mother’s milk is excellent nourishment for human babies, but its composition is very different from cow’s milk.

Scientific studies show that milk increases fracture risk

Many scientific studies contradict the conventional wisdom that milk and dairy consumption help reduce osteoporotic fractures. Surprisingly, studies demonstrating that milk and dairy products actually fail to protect bones from fractures outnumber studies that prove otherwise. Even drinking milk from a young age does not protect against future fracture risk but actually increases it. Shattering the “savings account” calcium theory, Cumming and Klineberg report their study findings as follows:

“Consumption of dairy products, particularly at age 20 years, was associated with an increased risk of hip fracture in old age. (“Case-Control Study of Risk Factors for Hip Fractures in the Elderly”. American Journal of Epidemiology. Vol. 139, No. 5, 1994).

And the 12 year long Harvard Nurses’ Health Study found that those who consumed the most calcium from dairy foods broke more bones than those who rarely drank milk. This is a broad study based on 77,761 women aged 34 through 59 years of age.

In the authors’ own words:

“These data do not support the hypothesis that higher consumption of milk or other food sources of calcium by adult women protects against hip or forearm fractures.” (Source: Feskanich D, Willett WC, Stampfer MJ, Colditz GA. Milk, dietary calcium, and bone fractures in women: a 12-year prospective study. American Journal of Public Health. 1997).

Shocking statistics ignored by mainstream medicine

In the Save Our Bones Program one of the topics I discuss is the complete disregard of scientific evidence that discredits milk and dairy products as the best source of calcium.

One exception is Amy Lanou Ph.D., nutrition director for the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine in Washington, D.C., who states that:

“The countries with the highest rates of osteoporosis are the ones where people drink the most milk and have the most calcium in their diets. The connection between calcium consumption and bone health is actually very weak, and the connection between dairy consumption and bone health is almost nonexistent.”

Surprised? You shouldn’t be, because as I mentioned earlier in this article…

Milk is an acidifying animal protein

Like any other animal derived protein-rich food, milk has a positive potential renal acid load (PRAL) which triggers a protective biological reaction to neutralize all the damaging acidic protein before it reaches the kidneys.

The body is designed for survival, so it sacrifices bone density to protect the kidneys and urinary tract because the latter are essential to survival. And the most readily available source of acid neutralizer is in the bones. So even though milk contains calcium, it ends up sapping your bones of that crucial mineral. But that’s not all because…

Today’s milk is a processed food

Until the end of the 19th century in Europe and the beginning of the 20th century in the US, milk was consumed unpasteurized or raw. Later on, homogenization became the industry’s standard. These processes further alter milk’s chemistry and actually increase its detrimental acidifying effects.

Raw milk advocates claim that if cow’s milk is left “as is” it is a healthy and wholesome drink. It is true that raw milk is less acidifying than processed milk and that pasteurization and homogenization may cause a long list of digestive and other health problems, but I still don’t recommend drinking any kind of cow’s milk.

Nowadays, milking cows are given antibiotics and most are also injected with a genetically engineered form of bovine growth hormone (rBGH). A man-made or synthetic hormone used to artificially increase milk production, rBGH also increases blood levels of the insulin-growth factor 1 (IGF-1) in those who drink it. And higher levels of IGF-1 are linked to several cancers.

This should not be ignored, especially in view of recent information by Samuel Epstein, MD, Professor of Environmental Medicine at the University of Illinois School of Public Health, and Chairman of the Cancer Prevention Coalition. In an article titled “Monsanto’s Hormonal Milk Poses Serious Risks of Breast Cancer, Besides Other Cancers” (http://www.preventcancer.com/press/releases/july8_98.htm, June 21, 1998) Dr. Epstein concludes that:

“Drinking rBGH milk would thus be expected to significantly increase IGF-1 blood levels and consequently to increase risks of developing breast cancer and promoting its invasiveness.”

Even though organic milk is from cows that are not given antibiotics or rBHG, if you truly care about your bone health and your overall health, you should…

Avoid drinking cow’s milk

As I explain in the Save Our Bones Program and contrary to mainstream recommendations, drinking milk and eating lots of dairy products are not the answer to reversing osteoporosis. And while in the Save Our Bones Program no food is completely off limits, I strongly recommend that you explore the different milk substitute options that I will list for you here.

But first, I’d like to clarify that unsweetened fermented or cultured dairy products such as yogurt, kefir, and sour cream are acid neutral. Yogurt in particular is chock-full of beneficial qualities. As is the case with milk, organic yogurt does not have rBGH, but even several of the most well-known yogurt brands have stopped using the bovine growth hormone (rBGH). You should call your favorite yogurt company to confirm. One more clarification: when I say unsweetened I mean without sugar or any artificial sweetener. However, you can add honey or stevia, a zero calorie plant-derived sweetener that is delicious and alkalizing as well. I like to carry around stevia packets in my purse so that I’m always able to sweeten food or drinks when I’m on the go.

The best milk substitutes

My favorite milk substitute is unsweetened almond milk, not only because it is alkalizing (as almonds are), but also because it’s delicious and tastes very similar to milk. I even cook with it!

If almond milk is hard to get, you can also try rice or soy milk. I strongly suggest consuming only organic soy milk to insure it’s not made with genetically modified soy. There is also some controversy about unfermented soy products, so try to use it in moderation.

What Else Haven’t They Told You?

What else have you been told about bone health by your doctor or other “experts” that is flat out wrong? What other “facts” (like drinking milk does a body good) are keeping you from optimal health?

Myths like these are a big reason I created the Save Our Bones Program. To give you the straight scoop on how to deal with osteoporosis the natural way.

I can help you take control of your future.

Learn more about the Save Our Bones Program here →

And remember, if you ever hear someone ask “Got milk?” smile and think to yourself “No, because I know better!”

And as always, I’d love to hear your thoughts. Share them with me and the rest of our community by leaving a comment below.

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  1. Julio May 15, 2015, 5:10 pm

    Hello. I am trained body-food connection. I am 100% sure that milk is 100% unhealthy. It feeds the unhealthy bacteria such as fungus and other parasites. It weakens bones, I am 100% sure, my body told me. You know very well inside your soul if you ask your body if you can eat or drink that shit, he will tell you NO, IT WILL KILL YOU. You just do not dare to ask. And you believe in nonsense such as science. If the body says is bad for you, there is no such is as science saying is healthy to drink milk. You know very well, if you ask your body, just take a sip of milk or dairy and hold it in your tongue and ask it to your belly or your navel, your gut. Ask it until a secure answer comes out, can I drink this? Can I really eat this? Ask until the answer comes out. Of course you wont answer because you know the answer very well or you just do not want to stop consuming dairy because you have an emotional dependency. I am 100% sure and so you are that the answer is NO. No need of science, just common sense and communication with your very body and guts. DUUHH People are so stupid nowadays, they THINK some foods are good for them but they do not FEEL they are good. Idiots. Also ny body told me we do not eat meat, we are herbivores and we eat mostly green stuff. If you ask you will get the answer, of course you wont because you are s scientific idiot and not a emotional reasonal human being. Emotional and instinctive sense: MILK AND DAIRY WILL KILL YOU AND RUIN YOUR HEALTH. Good luck with your science, in the end your body knows best and you’ll pay the price, nature has its ways of punishment when we do not follow are destiny and instincts. It’s an emotion call hate that’s just above joy. Poor and stupid Americans.

    • Jeif May 26, 2015, 11:39 am

      Thank you for backing up your 100% claims with “common sense” and “my body told me.” I drink Milk, my body seems to like it. Haven’t had a broken bone or a fracture yet. Tastes pretty good too. My body told me so.

    • Chris May 20, 2015, 10:26 am

      Wow thank you, very well written. I too, wonder if you have any material that helps support this “listen to your body” matter, or any material that will show us that science is as you say nonsense.

    • Michael May 19, 2015, 8:21 am

      I’m interested in reading up further on this. Do you have links to case/clinical studies, research papers and the like?

  2. Andrew May 14, 2015, 9:26 am

    I really wanted to read an article that opposes drinking milk but I had to stop right after the first paragraph. Why? Because it is wrong.
    ”Doctors would also spit on wounds because saliva was believed to have healing properties”. You, who wrote the article, are you a biologist/chemist/nutritionist/doctor/researcher? Because if you are not, I don’t trust you. And if you are, shame on you for not learning basic facts.
    The human saliva, contains something called ”lysozyme”. They are enzymes which damage bacterial cells ( do some research if you don’t believe me ). Also, remember that time when you were a kid and you made a small cut on your finger? The first thing you did was put your finger in your mouth. Because the saliva has antibacterial effect.
    Thus, starting from your wrong introduction…I don’t think I am going to trust your article!

    • Jeif May 26, 2015, 11:42 am

      Yeah, I pretty much was thinking the same thing. Kept making claims like, “But many scientific studies have shown an assortment of detrimental health effects directly linked to milk consumption.” Then offers nothing. Just says stuff.

    • albert May 24, 2015, 7:02 pm

      Agree with andrew,this people who talk about how bad is milk ,do not have any serious training ,,medicine ,dietician ctc ,,i do not find any serious study of this issues ,
      to explaing Acido -Bases and physiology is a litle bit more complicated than Calcium and milk….

    • Christian May 17, 2015, 8:33 pm

      You are correct! Saliva contains many lysozyme and even nerve growing factors. However, the amount of bacteria in an individuals mouth is incredible. Our saliva immune protection is barely sufficient to protect our oral cavity from bacterial insults. Thus, spiting in an injury could result in more problems than remedies. If we had a sterile mouth i would say that spitting in an injury would be a great idea, but that is not the actual case.

  3. Anon May 11, 2015, 12:45 pm

    For all the naysayers that this article is nonsense, touting your so called science, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE look into who funded these scientific studies. Dairy cows are BIG (and I do mean BIG) business, and just like any other study, they can be – and are – bought. Many studies are done by universities and guess who funds universities? Big business. Do you think the university is going to get as much money and funding from the business if they find in their study something that harms the business? I love science, but science today is bought and paid for in so many ways.

  4. lakshay May 10, 2015, 5:17 am

    I stop the consumption of milk at the age of 16, now I am 20 and I have no problem.my doctor found my bones are healthy and heavy and calcium rich.
    he told me to stop drinking milk. as I have joint pain, and my bones are thin, he even told me to stop consuming any milk products like cheese, butter, ghee, curd, yogurt and ice-cream also. but I can’t quit ice-cream.
    so to meet my calcium needs or protein.
    I daily consumes soybean or coconut or almond wheat or sesame seed, peanuts, muskmelon seeds, sunflower seeds. any one of these,
    in form of milk, or soked in water at
    ate raw, or any way without cooked.

    • albert May 24, 2015, 7:08 pm

      I have consume milk all my life and i am still consuming in large amount daily and i am 68 years old and i did not have a Fracture in my life and I am from a ethnic group that lack from an emzyme that break down lactose,,I did no found any serious article bout this informed yourself and then lets talk

    • Katie May 22, 2015, 2:20 pm

      I have largely cut out dairy from my diet as well and am doing fine without it. I have recently had a few different flavors of So Delicious ice cream made from almond milk which all 3 flavors I’ve tried have been, as the brand name states, SO DELICIOUS! :) I have had the praline crunch, mocha almond fudge, and the mint and chip. All three taste just like regular ice cream, but are dairy free! woohoo!

  5. Gergely May 4, 2015, 9:21 pm

    I was so stupid. I started arguing with people about how milk is unhealthy without looking for scientific evidence, and now that I tried to back up my claims, it turns out I was a complete idiot. I haven’t found a single study which proved that milk is unhealthy. My knowledge and logic is far better than the average and I haven’t lost a single argument in like the past 5 years… until now. Seriously, I thought I was a genius because of this. Now I can’t claim anymore that I NEVER lost an argument.
    And I believed milk was so unhealthy because of sites like this.
    Neither of these claims are supported by scientific evidence.

    • albert May 24, 2015, 7:16 pm

      this articules are very poor to explaing why Milk is bad ???

    • Eddie May 14, 2015, 3:23 pm

      it took me like a second to find studies about the negative effects of Milk. See below. Makes no sense why humans consume milk. There are much better and more superior forms of nutrition in the plant world than anything that comes from an animal.

      Michaelsson K, Wolk A, Langenskiold S, et al. Milk intake and risk of mortality and fractures in women and men: cohort studies. Bmj 2014;349:g6015.
      2. Lanou AJ. Should dairy be recommended as part of a healthy vegetarian diet? Counterpoint. The American journal of clinical nutrition 2009;89:1638S-42S.
      3. Dahl-Jorgensen K, Joner G, Hanssen KF. Relationship between cows’ milk consumption and incidence of IDDM in childhood. Diabetes Care 1991;14:1081-3.
      4. Malosse D, Perron H, Sasco A, Seigneurin JM. Correlation between milk and dairy product consumption and multiple sclerosis prevalence: a worldwide study. Neuroepidemiology 1992;11:304-12.
      5. Key TJ. Diet, insulin-like growth factor-1 and cancer risk. Proc Nutr Soc 2011:1-4.
      6. Kritchevsky D. Dietary protein, cholesterol and atherosclerosis: a review of the early history. The Journal of nutrition 1995;125:589S-93S.
      7. Gardner CD, Messina M, Kiazand A, Morris JL, Franke AA. Effect of two types of soy milk and dairy milk on plasma lipids in hypercholesterolemic adults: a randomized trial. Journal of the American College of Nutrition 2007;26:669-77.
      8. Youngman LD, Campbell TC. Inhibition of aflatoxin B1-induced gamma-glutamyltranspeptidase positive (GGT+) hepatic preneoplastic foci and tumors by low protein diets: evidence that altered GGT+ foci indicate neoplastic potential. Carcinogenesis 1992;13:1607-13.
      9. Spencer EH, Ferdowsian HR, Barnard ND. Diet and acne: a review of the evidence. Int J Dermatol 2009;48:339-47.
      10. Caffarelli C, Baldi F, Bendandi B, Calzone L, Marani M, Pasquinelli P. Cow’s milk protein allergy in children: a practical guide. Italian journal of pediatrics 2010;36:5.
      11. Rona RJ, Keil T, Summers C, et al. The prevalence of food allergy: a meta-analysis. J Allergy Clin Immunol 2007;120:638-46.

    • Gergely May 4, 2015, 9:37 pm

      PS.: I’m a bit relieved because I didn’t totally lose the argument. I claimed milk was not healthy, not that it is unhealthy(as I thought I did). “Not healthy” can be still not unhealthy, so somewhat neutral. It’s good proteins and carbs if you can digest it, and bad fats. If it’s from a pregnant cow, then it is uhealthy because of the hormones.

      • Audra May 15, 2015, 6:29 pm

        You don’t make any sense at all.

  6. Philip Tegner May 3, 2015, 10:44 pm

    This article says that populations in countries that drink the most milk (like the US) have the highest fracture rates. Could it be that the US population is also the fattest and carrying around all that excess weight contributes more to higher fracture rates than drinking more milk?

  7. Lachlan May 3, 2015, 4:37 am

    Hi, I just spent half an hour trawling through Google Scholar.

    I can’t find a single scientific paper to support the claims in this article, but found many papers from the last few years directly contradicting it.

    Did I miss something?

    • Haley May 10, 2015, 1:27 am

      No, you are being completely logical and intelligent. Articles like this are smut made for the population that will believe anything they read on the internet. Most people do not understand that a medical or scientific-related article NEEDS evidence-based research to prove that what they are saying is true. Ridiculous.

      • albert May 24, 2015, 7:18 pm

        agree this are not serious …

  8. kristin April 29, 2015, 6:24 pm

    Is anything good for you?????

    • Amanda Johnston May 3, 2015, 8:11 pm

      Yes! There are so many plants in this world that we have access to. Check out the benefits of Whole Food Plant Based Diet in this great video.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DCjwIVJmMw

    • Anon April 30, 2015, 10:34 am

      Lol yes there are many things that are good for you. A lot of articles will say one thing about something and the next another, but milk has an ongoing fact that will always be true: it is not as good for your bones as they (whoever it may be) say it is. Peace!

  9. Beth Vigliotti April 27, 2015, 5:50 pm

    I totally agree with your article. Milk has other damaging results like skin problems, etc. However I have been trying to give up milk for quite some time and have difficulty with all the milk substitutes. All the almond milks, oat milks, rice milks, cashew milks etc. taste very good but also are processed and have given me severe intestinal pain and gas due to the Carageenan, Guar gum and other fiber substitutes that are used in making milk substitutes. I just don’t know what to do at this point.

    • Neetu April 28, 2015, 7:08 am

      Make your own Milk at home free from any additives. You just need to soak almonds over night and churn in mixer next morning. Add water to your required consistency. There you go your milk is ready to be consumed. Hope it helps.

  10. Denise April 22, 2015, 4:56 pm

    Thank you for this fabulous article. I stopped eating dairy because of the acid content. I am also lactose intolerant. I will however remember to get some Kefir and now I know why yogurt and sour cream do not upset my stomach. I also use Almond milk, btw.

  11. Ronald Stimpson April 22, 2015, 1:03 am

    Please read a few hundred SCIENTIFIC articles explaining why this article is “utter” (Get it?!?) nonsense.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=milk+osteoporosis

    Those of you perpetuating the misinformation on this website should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves.

  12. M DeRoncey April 21, 2015, 9:58 pm

    Much of this is common sense. The simple observation that no other animal consumes milk after weaning encouraged my stance on milk long ago. I eat cheese and occasionally have ice cream, but I never have consumed milk as a beverage and don’t particularly care for it. I have never had a cavity or a broken bone but have never given my low intake of milk any credit for this. Our teeth are suited to a mixed diet of meat and vegetables and common sense tells me that’s what the body requires. I don’t require a label to tell me inhailing smoke from burning leaves and paper is bad for my lungs either. It is common sense that all natural foods are likely healthier than engineered ones, and I eat as much natural and organic food as possible. I believe that the body has the ability to adapt and can handle most anything in moderation. If people would just think a little bit about what they are consuming, we would all probably make better choices.

    • john doe April 27, 2015, 8:12 pm

      I too don’t care much for milk, but i had a really bad accident where i fractured all my ribs, the pain was too horrible to assimilate unless you’ve been through it. So i decided to drink alot of milk. Result=i gained alot of weight, cholesterol was high, stomach aches, intestinal bleading, ulcers, etc. Stopped drinking milk. Result=major weight loss, no more bleeding, no more ulcers, no more stomach aches. After reading this article, it all makes sense. It’s true, when the heck does any other adult animal drink milk in nature? They simply don’t. But you know, like tobacco, Borden and mccarthur need to make money. Sheeeesh. Anyways, I’d also like to know when you say animal protein, does that mean meat as well. I’m guessing yes, but please elaborate

    • Chris April 25, 2015, 3:06 pm

      If animal protien is causing the problem should I also not eat meat? I would also like sources fir any article

      • Amanda Johnston May 3, 2015, 7:58 pm

        Yes, Absolutely you should stop consuming all animal products. But do your research on a whole foods plant based diet, that is the best diet for ultimate health. Vegans can still be living off diet coke and oreos, that is not healthy. YouTube The Starch Solution, Prevent & Reverse Heart Disease, and check out Nutritionfacts.org

        • Oldharborseal May 11, 2015, 11:01 am

          I read an article recently stating that vegetarians, vegans in particular had shorter lifespans and more trips to the doctor and were generally less healthy than people with a more rounded diet. The article said that they are thinner and in good physical shape. But it appears that the severe diet in the long run is not that healthful.

        • Lee May 4, 2015, 5:49 pm

          Amanda, go away with all your advertisements. And I’ve been drinking milk all my life (22), full fat, low fat whatever I have. Take it with cereal, porridge, drink it at dinner. Mix it with protein shakes. I have played full contact football, I have never broken a bone. Also, the reason in my opinion behind other animals not drinking other species milk is due to lack of knowledge, we have scientific proof showing the benefits of milk. It’s wholly nutritious and packed with proteins. this article is, excuse me, Bullshit. The ability to consume milk is a mutation, but those mutation that enhance our health generally stay. Studies showed people who consumed milk in comparison to those who were lactose intolerant where generally stronger and healthier (going back years people).

          • Eddie May 14, 2015, 3:18 pm

            Please list any such articles or studies. I would like to read them. Also, the article said the bone loss occurred later in life, so keep drinking milk, and check back in when your in your sixties. if you actually knew what they did to the cows to obtain the milk i can’t see how anybody would consume it. Talk about lack of knowledge.

  13. Lee Ford April 19, 2015, 11:11 pm

    I have noticed that when I drink milk or eat cheese I get extreme hot flushes. Even a little milk in coffee triggers the flushes.
    Something to think about!!!
    Lee Ford

  14. Janet C. April 19, 2015, 9:33 pm

    Us and our first world problems.

    • zack April 19, 2015, 10:13 pm

      I quit milk two years ago my knees feel great.I believe u 15minutes in sun and a salad will build bones

      • Amanda Johnston May 3, 2015, 8:00 pm

        You are correct, dark leafy greens are the way to get in your calcium. But not to worry if you don’t like greens as well, calcium is found in all plant foods, and by just cutting out all the animal products you are benefiting your bones already, but not breaking them down. I always tell people, “Where do you think the cows got their calcium…. The Grass!”

  15. BDB April 17, 2015, 12:36 am

    It truly fascinates me that your article states that there is a way to test the milk to see if the cow it came from has been injected with rBST. If a cow has been injected with rBST, there is no way it can be tested, also it does not change the components of the milk at all! rBST just causes the cow to eat more, which in turn leads to a higher milk production. So please, tell me where you got your sources. Thank you.

  16. amon April 13, 2015, 5:55 pm

    Care to provide a bibliography or otherwise cite your sources beyond “so-and-so made this claim”?

    • Anonymous April 24, 2015, 7:57 am

      I believe it, milk is not good for you. Do you know how horribly dairy cows are treated? People are mean to innocent animals. Milk really isn’t good for you though. I can’t prove this with anything other than my word, this website, and many more websites. Look it up. :)

    • BDB April 16, 2015, 6:21 pm

      I would love to have a bibliography too! I have consumed milk every day of my life, and I have NEVER broken a bone!

  17. Guirand Michel April 10, 2015, 2:22 am

    I’m not a big milk drinker. However, you seem to make a bit of sense. This is not hard to prove.
    Here is the experiment: take two groups of baby rats. Feed one group with milk and the other no milk. when they become big rats, measure their bone densities and you will get the answer. and make sure you send me your findings.

    • Amanda Johnston May 3, 2015, 8:14 pm

      They have done this study, you should read the book The China Study. It is an amazing book about what dairy does to lab rats in testing. Here is a video of Professor T. Colin Campbell Phd of Cornell University speaking about the book and his findings.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfsT-qYeqGM

  18. John April 8, 2015, 7:13 pm

    Read some recent comments and would like to give a statement to answer some. before finding this site i began doing research on osteoporosis after my wife had been diagnosed with it in her lower spine. I’ve done medical studies for years and my wife has been in the medical field for years so we have a good comprehension level of what we were reading.

    Everything we read here we either had already found or went on to do more research on it. We both put in months of research before and after this site. The information on this site is accurate. The milk information is accurate and and supported by numerous medical research documents. I’ve also learned that there are many other disorders and allergies that are related to milk and various dairy products.

    I have yet to see a grown calf still nursing. Once a child is old enough to go to solid food the mother cuts the baby off and nursing is over or bottles of milk or formula comes to an end. We do things like giving milk to our pets because we think it’s OK to do but in reality is it right. Even animals have intolerance, allergies and illnesses.
    Not everyone is intolerant to milk but the way it works in our systems is the same for all. The diet of cows, added drugs and hormones make it a not so great food choice.
    The FDA asked the dairy council to prove it was a healthy food but they could never prove it. The available medical research showed the opposite.

    if you have an issue with what you read here and think otherwise then leave, go spend the next year doing your own research. Just for the record the drugs doctors give for osteoporosis really are bad. Most companies are now or have been in class action law suits and you can easily read all about those law suits on line.

    My sister in law was on Boneva for three years, This woman once had perfect teeth before using Boneva. Now she is supporting the dentist and getting them replaced. Boneva commercials are off the air and the law suits are in progress.

    • Amanda Johnston May 3, 2015, 8:18 pm

      Thank you so much for your testimony, what a blessing that you all landed on the right information before it was to late. I think you will find this video interesting. If you have not heard of the YouTube station NutritionFacts.org, check it out… It is right up your alley.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DCjwIVJmMw

  19. Chris C April 6, 2015, 7:52 pm

    I am not a milk drinker but beg to differ with this all too common (in alternative medicine anyway) view about milk. Most studies suggest that milk leads to a positive calcium balance and thus is a bone supportive food. See Chris Kresser on the same topic:

    http://chriskresser.com/does-dairy-cause-osteoporosis

  20. kristine Marquier Varzal April 5, 2015, 6:53 pm

    Dear Vivian,
    Thankyou so much for your research over the years which
    is helping woman take control over their own health issues. ie my case Osteoporosis/Osteopenia. I do want to
    share with you that our library in Washington, Twp, Long Valley, N.J. will not order their own copy of “Save our Bones” because of the expense. $85.00 plus S/H. Is there a way that I can order your informative book for less. I would love to have my own copy for following your total protocol. Thankyou in advance. I just love reading your daily helpful healthful bone reversing protocol. Our library has been UNSUCCESSFUL in locating a copy for me to read. This has been going on for four months. All for now. Happy Easter to you and your family.
    Kristine

  21. Anna April 2, 2015, 8:50 pm

    Thanks for the information. I would like to share this with others. There is a lot about milk that people do not understand.

  22. Todd March 27, 2015, 1:49 am

    The hardest thing in statistics is performing research solid enough to conclude that your results apply to a population outside of the sample you studied. You have to have a random, unbiased sample of the population of interest to do this (say, women between 40 & 50 years of age), but you always have bias because people volunteer and you only get the ones who are already sick or whatever. In fact, you usually don’t get to draw a random sample – you just look at the data somebody else gathered for something else. It’s just too hard to do in most cases.

    So forgive me if I discredit this author after she draws a conclusion about mammals (“they don’t drink milk when they grow up”) and then infers that that truth should apply to AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT SPECIES (humans).

    • Rodney Von Hugeinstein March 28, 2015, 3:26 pm

      Imagine no religion.

      • Lindsay April 17, 2015, 11:57 pm

        “So forgive me if I discredit this author after she draws a conclusion about mammals (“they don’t drink milk when they grow up”) and then infers that that truth should apply to AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT SPECIES (humans).”

        Wow. Forgive me if I discredit you for completely misunderstanding what she said – and having absolutely no idea what you are talking about. First off, “mammals” is a monophyletic taxon – not another word for cow. Second, once a mammal is weaned that mammal never drinks their mothers milk again. Third, humans are mammals and once we are weaned we are never fed our mothers milk again. So I am not sure what your issue is.

        Just because WE drink another species milk, does not mean we are supposed to. No other mammal does this, which should tell us a lot about how unnatural it is.

        • Dylan May 3, 2015, 10:09 pm

          It’s being pretty well inferred that calf’s discontinue to drink their mothers milk and as a result we should not drink cow’s milk.

          Think about it for a second, step away from your need to condescend people and recognize it’s a fallacy. There are many reason a mammalian creature would be weaned from it’s mothers milk that do not relate to nutrition And we are after all, quiet a different species of mammal.

          • defoster May 13, 2015, 9:52 pm

            I am having a problem with the fact that grown animals don’t drink the milk of other animals, and that then means humans shouldn’t either. Animals can’t ‘milk’ other animals. They also don’t eat apple pie or food from McDonald’s. Not drinking it because it is bad for them and not drinking it because they can’t buy it from 7-11 are two different things. Just a thought.

  23. Todd March 27, 2015, 1:40 am

    So where are the statistics in the section about shocking statistics?

  24. Jesse March 27, 2015, 1:28 am

    How do we know this isn’t a lie? First off, comparing milk to superstitions of rabbits feet or healing spit doesn’t mean anything. Just because there’s been debunked things in the past that doesn’t automatically make milk one of them.

    Next, there’s gotta be more to what factors significantly into bone health than whether or not you drink milk. Those 77,761 women could’ve had more breaks for different reasons.

    Next, people on both sides of a dispute will have scientific “proof” of what they find true. They could throw any science talk at us and we’d believe it since I’m sure most all of us don’t know anything about what they’re saying. We just accept it and stick to it even though we don’t understand it ourselves.

    As for wanting us to believe it’s good just to sell more of it, it’s valid to a point, but think about how many times you see almond milk and other milk substitutes advertised on TV. This could also very well be some article to get people to buy milk substitutes just as much as you claim they try to sell real milk.

    There’s also that thing about people saying “milk is for babies”. Yes, baby animals and even baby humans drink it for sustenance in their early stage of life, but since when have human beings worked exactly the way your typical animal does. There’s so many things we do that’s abnormal from animal behavior. Actually, I’m sure there’s animals, like cats for example, that will drink milk even after they’ve grown up.

    The next issue people have is when they say that it’s bad for us because it’s meant to grow calves into seven hundred pound adult cows and bulls. I doubt that a single person will drink as much as a calf needs to every day to mature into a healthy adult, and a calf will feed on milk exclusively if I’m not wrong unlike your average person. So what we do drink can’t really hurt us that much if at all.

  25. Tiffany March 26, 2015, 11:18 am

    I have started drinking Almond or Soy milk because I want to keep my bones strong and healthy, but I was confused when I noticed that the carton advertises that it has a hefty percentage MORE calcium than cow’s milk? Is this something to avoid, or because it is calcium from plants it’s okay? So confused!!

    • Berto April 20, 2015, 9:02 pm

      They add calcium to it. In fact almond milk only has around 2% almonds in it, the rest its just water and quimicals.

  26. loraine March 25, 2015, 1:08 am

    I have never been a lover of milk and for the last 20 years I have not used milk to drink at all (Only in occasional cooking recipes) . I am over 50 and have now been diagnosed with osteoporosis. Also only for the last year I have used sunblock but only after 20 min in the sun. All the other things I have done naturally except for the non fluoride toothpaste, the smoothie and the soda (occasionally) . What has caused it then?

    • this is bs. May 6, 2015, 11:12 pm

      Lack of exercise. Sedentary lifestyles don’t stimulate the body to store calcium. Resistance exercise or manual labor, make the muscle strain where they are attached to the bone making the body strengthen bone.

  27. Steve "Dog Eat" Dawg March 9, 2015, 3:25 pm

    First, to the astronomy guy that is accusing milk of being a bonebreaker, maybe if you weren’t a window, it wouldn’t be such a problem that you were always breaking.

    Second. Humans weren’t meant to eat about 99.9% of what we now eat. We also weren’t meant to live much beyond the age of 35. I say, eat, drink milk, and appreciate the fact that aliens have given us science that allows us elves to live well into our 900s (like Methusaleh). Ode to Orion’s Belt, and cows everywhere.

    • Nefer-Ra March 9, 2015, 3:54 pm

      If you new your history you would know the average age in Greece was 22 years olds and when they ran into the Africans in Kmt (Egypt ) the average age was 110 and we wasn’t drinking breastmilk from cows

      • orly March 23, 2015, 1:49 am

        Africa had the first domestic cattle,evidence points to pastoral nomads not killing their animals for food but did use their milk and blood.
        Africa has 5 separate gene mutations for lactose tolerance.
        compared to the entire rest of the world that has 1

  28. Cowlilei Cowlileo March 9, 2015, 3:16 pm

    I’ve noticed recently that every time I drink a glass of milk, my jaw breaks. Furthermore, when I drink chocolate milk, my clavicle crackackles. So I think it is true that milk breaks bones. Bonebreaker.

  29. m March 9, 2015, 12:20 pm

    Your almond milk substitute supposedly is linked to cancer as the ingredient they use to prevent it from separating is carcinogenic. Uh oh. Better get a new sustitute.

    • Tyler March 14, 2015, 6:21 pm

      Not to mention in this article the FDA also allows a fairly large amount of somatic cells from infected cows (these cows can also be organic) which is aka: Pus.
      Someone else mentioned that carageean is in almond milk which is a cancerous derivative of seaweed. If you buy silk almond milk it doesn’t contain this ingredient and is non gmo.

    • john March 10, 2015, 6:36 am

      Are you talking about carageenan? There are non dairy milks including almond milk without carageenan.

  30. SidThekid February 27, 2015, 2:16 am

    We had a dog that we fed milk all the time along with wheat bread. That was about 30 years ago when I was about 10-12 yrs. of age. My daughter recently got a puppy and doctor strictly prohibited milk and wheat products. Does it prove that ignorance is bliss.? And hey, the dog we had in my childhood never had any problem. So we can remove the analogy of drinking milk of another species. Rest of the discussion, lets carry on, it hasn’t reached the climax yet.

    • Just Someone February 27, 2015, 10:53 am

      I shall call you all BOBBERT !!!

  31. Bob February 25, 2015, 1:38 pm

    You are not a doctor, so you can’t prove this.

    • Bobby February 25, 2015, 2:34 pm

      You are so right, Bob

      • Bobette February 25, 2015, 2:36 pm

        Bobby and Bob: Sweet names, by the way. Call me.

      • Bob February 25, 2015, 2:35 pm

        Bobby: Sweet name, by the way. Call me.

        • Bob February 25, 2015, 2:37 pm

          I will call you, Bobette.

          • Bobbielisa the Fashionista March 9, 2015, 9:13 am

            Bobbietio, no. There’s a lot of builders here, eh?
            Well I better go back to my modeling career. How ’bout y’all stop reading nerdy poop and get back to work, Bob the Builders?

          • Bob February 25, 2015, 2:45 pm

            That message was supposed to be read by Bobetio.

          • Bob February 25, 2015, 2:44 pm

            I remember you: you were the ugly one in the family.

          • Bobbietio February 25, 2015, 2:43 pm

            This is not a dating site: Bobby,Bobette, and Bob. Although I do LOVE your names. Hey: I used to have 2 brothers named Bob and Bobby, and a sister named Bobette. I know this is crazy, but….. Are you guys thinking what I’m thinking?

  32. Jeremy Gillespie February 23, 2015, 5:16 am

    The arguments posted here are half hearted and in turn, wrong. If the entire argument that milk is bad is because of it’s PH level, then we should also not eat any of these foods either…

    http://www.rense.com/1.mpicons/acidalka.htm

    Before scrolling, I beg everyone, please read and do your own research. Don’t trust articles that reference medical journals and don’t even provide links. Use your brains. The concept that milk helps bones has been seen not for the past 20 years but the past 2000+ years, ever since we started drinking milk. Professional power lifters that hoist 800-1200 pounds around are all avid milk drinkers. Please…do your own research…

    ACIDIFYING VEGETABLES
    Corn
    Lentils
    Olives
    Winter Squash

    ACIDIFYING FRUITS
    Blueberries
    Canned or Glazed Fruits
    Cranberries
    Currants
    Plums**
    Prunes**

    ACIDIFYING GRAINS, GRAIN PRODUCTS
    Amaranth
    Barley
    Bran, oat
    Bran, wheat
    Bread
    Corn
    Cornstarch
    Crackers, soda
    Flour, wheat
    Flour, white
    Hemp Seed Flour
    Kamut
    Macaroni
    Noodles
    Oatmeal
    Oats (rolled)
    Quinoa
    Rice (all)
    Rice Cakes
    Rye
    Spaghetti
    Spelt
    Wheat Germ
    Wheat

    ACIDIFYING BEANS & LEGUMES
    Almond Milk
    Black Beans
    Chick Peas
    Green Peas
    Kidney Beans
    Lentils
    Pinto Beans
    Red Beans
    Rice Milk
    Soy Beans
    Soy Milk
    White Beans

    ACIDIFYING DAIRY
    Butter
    Cheese
    Cheese, Processed
    Ice Cream
    Ice Milk

    ACIDIFYING NUTS & BUTTERS
    Cashews
    Legumes
    Peanut Butter
    Peanuts
    Pecans
    Tahini
    Walnuts

    ACIDIFYING ANIMAL PROTEIN
    Bacon
    Beef
    Carp
    Clams
    Cod
    Corned Beef
    Fish
    Haddock
    Lamb
    Lobster
    Mussels
    Organ Meats
    Oyster
    Pike
    Pork
    Rabbit
    Salmon
    Sardines
    Sausage
    Scallops
    Shellfish
    Shrimp
    Tuna
    Turkey
    Veal
    Venison

    ACIDIFYING FATS & OILS
    Avacado Oil
    Butter
    Canola Oil
    Corn Oil
    Flax Oil
    Hemp Seed Oil
    Lard
    Olive Oil
    Safflower Oil
    Sesame Oil
    Sunflower Oil

    ACIDIFYING SWEETENERS
    Carob
    Corn Syrup
    Sugar

    ACIDIFYING ALCOHOL
    Beer
    Hard Liquor
    Spirits
    Wine

    ACIDIFYING OTHER FOODS
    Catsup
    Cocoa
    Coffee
    Mustard
    Pepper
    Soft Drinks
    Vinegar

    ACIDIFYING DRUGS & CHEMICALS
    Aspirin
    Chemicals
    Drugs, Medicinal
    Drugs, Psychedelic
    Herbicides
    Pesticides
    Tobacco

    ACIDIFYING JUNK FOOD
    Beer: pH 2.5
    Coca-Cola: pH 2
    Coffee: pH 4

    • Fred in Victoria April 10, 2015, 7:05 pm

      The key word in foods we eat is balance – for optimum health a pH that is slightly alkaline is what you want.

    • Mo March 25, 2015, 12:17 pm

      Shit then what should we eat?

    • Stuart March 16, 2015, 8:50 am

      But Celery is OK right ? I hope so as that’s all I eat.

    • Marcelo March 1, 2015, 10:11 am

      I’m totally agree with you. Do your own research and don’t trust in any kind of information. Obviously you will find a lot of information against dairy products in vegan Pages.

  33. kindelan February 16, 2015, 6:26 pm

    At first all was cool, cow milk isn’t meant for humans, mother’s milk is. Great, then the analysis of milk is made and the protein content is over three times that of human milk, etc., and commercial milk is crap, most of us know that, but then we get to the end and almond milk is suggested and even recommended, but the ingredients are not only questionable but harmful: Almondmilk (Filtered Water, Almonds), Cane Sugar, Sea Salt, Locust Bean Gum, Sunflower Lecithin, Gellan Gum., but then, even though the ingredients are crap, soy milk is recommended along with rice milk. I threw in the towel then and said, Vivian Goldschmidt is weird or a vegan, which is one of the same. I will now go further and read more rational and science based reports, very disappointing to find biases and then have crap products that are worse than raw milk by far and what’s the thing with yogurt? This woman quotes from some good data but then goes maniacal with soy, almond and rice milk, plus her statement on yogurt can’t be trusted, personally, I like milk (raw and from pastured animals), home made yogurt and kefir but what are the findings regarding health for the latter two? I will start my search now.

  34. Merriann Ann February 15, 2015, 6:22 pm

    I read so much of about what is bad for you, l have nearly quit eating. Its repulsive!

    • stephen February 19, 2015, 12:57 pm

      I agree there is a lot of foods that are debatable the best thing is just to worry more about what we should be eating and not too much what we shouldn’t

    • MilkDrinker48 February 16, 2015, 8:55 am

      I dont care im still gonna drink it

  35. Como February 15, 2015, 9:46 am

    Stuff everyone’s comments about milk’s positive or negative affects on our health. It doesn’t matter whether it is good or bad for our health. The main reason you shouldn’t have milk is because the majority of it is sourced from an industry that is inherently cruel and corrupt. One which treats living, breathing creatures who ARE sentient (whether you would like to accept that truth or not), as nothing more than a commodity. And yes, maybe one or two of you may run very small dairy operations, and maybe you care for your cows, but those kinds of operations can nowhere near accommodate the global demand for milk and dairy products. So most of what you are all consuming comes from an industry that treats female cows like milk machines and which treat day old bobby calves as waste products or send them off to veal farms to live out their very short lives in dark sheds. When you buy milk or dairy you are making a choice to directly fund this industry. I choose to boycott an industry which perpetuates such violence and which lacks any value for life and if you were a moral, caring human you would try and overcome your conditioning and take a long hard look at your milk lust!

    • razorstream March 4, 2015, 10:04 pm

      I agree with everything you said except that ALL living things are sentient.

    • eyor February 16, 2015, 6:01 pm

      What do you think humans do to eachother?
      death is death no matter if it is on a farm or I go out and shoot it.

      • E February 26, 2015, 9:53 pm

        Humans don’t breed and slaughter billions of humans a day. Why is that okay to do to another living species? Have some compassion.

  36. Shlomo February 15, 2015, 9:35 am

    The amount of people on here who have no idea about science, yet who are claiming what they say as “scientific” is beyond ridiculous! And then there are those that are arguing their case with things like, “my momma told me milk was good for me, so it must be.” Did some 5th graders get a hold of the comments section?

    • Justin February 15, 2015, 11:37 am

      I’d like to see some of the resources or “studies” they used to write this article. If they can’t put their refrences at the bottom of the page, I won’t believe a word out of their mouth. Plus who believe a website called saveourbones.com as an accredited medical site?

      • Louis February 25, 2015, 9:39 pm

        The sources ARE cited at the ends of quotes and paragraphs throughout the article

        • Andy May 12, 2015, 10:34 am

          No, they are not.

  37. carolyn asummerville February 10, 2015, 2:58 pm

    I disagree with you on soy because it has caused breast cyst in me and it wasn’t due to something else because I did an experiment on myself . I avoided soy for a few
    weeks and no cysts and then I ate soy and the cysts came back immediately.
    My doctor told me I would have to find other means of protein so I avoid soy like
    the plague. I feel that coconut milk is the best form of milk alternative along
    with almond. I feel rice milk is to high in carbohydrates and has little else to offer.
    I do have osteoporosis . I am interested in your program but wasn’t sure if it was something I should do because of all the scams on the interenet.
    I know that milk is really not made for human consumption. I lknow that when I
    was a baby my mom started me on cows milk 6 months after I was born and I started getting very sick and continued to be sick for a very long time, they just
    didn’t make the connection about the milk and my sickness so I was subjected to
    it all my life and had all kinds of health issues. I finally stopped drinking milk after
    I got married and didn’t drink any for years, but did eat a little yogart but mostly
    just took probiotics. Please contact me if you can I would love to talk more about
    this issue.
    Thank You
    Carolyn

  38. Ivy February 9, 2015, 5:41 pm

    My kids doctors never suggested milk exactly,but calcium was important.Allthe products milk related.
    I’m careful with any article that is very pro or anti some product or another.Citing studies from some scientist.
    I don’t trust those studies,because of faulty info,bias,etc.
    And soy milk isn’t the answer either if you want to talk about bad for you!
    Everything in moderation.As other of us non doctors have said.
    And according to the persons body,adjustments needed should be made for sure.

  39. kelly February 8, 2015, 4:30 pm

    Milk is crap. Ad agencies have done a great job of duping those who drink it.

  40. Pavel Niechwiej February 7, 2015, 6:46 pm

    Moderation, moderation…
    I do drink up to 2 litres of milk daily, and I will send a report if I break a bone.

    • Niranjan Palakoor February 21, 2015, 10:47 am

      2 liters of milk a day ! That’s some moderation

  41. GetReal February 3, 2015, 1:48 pm

    I think it’s probably OK to drink raw milk from grass-fed cows who are not fed hormones or antibiotics. Of course, I can’t get my hands on that type of milk – it’s illegal to sell it in this state!

    However, I drank commercial milk for many years and FINALLY realized that it was contributing to my constant sinus and ear infections. Once I stopped drinking it, the infections disappeared. Oh yeah, and my bones got stronger – two bone density tests proved that.

    Raw milk is a nice supplement to a health diet, but whoever sold us the “3 glasses a day” B.S. should be exiled to a remote island.

  42. Princess February 2, 2015, 5:16 am

    There’s got to be moderation in everything. Too much of everything reverses the function of it. The doc didn’t say Milk consumption is bad, but said too much is…

  43. Lori January 31, 2015, 5:51 pm

    I find it ironic the person preaching the evils of drinking milk has osteoporosis! The writer isn’t really a credible source when he/she has a disease of bone density loss attributed to lack of calcium and minerals. For his/her own sake, maybe the writer should quit being defiant and listen to what 99.9% of credible dr.’s say and drink milk and take Fosomax before the condition gets even worse. Just sayin.

  44. Zoe Duncan January 24, 2015, 4:40 am

    This article is “udder” nonsense. It’s filled with half truths, “educated” guesses, pseudo-science and snake oil medicine.

    Milk does NOT turn the body acidic. Milk itself is a base. Base PH NEUTRALIZES Acid PH. Your body does not overcompensate and become acidic when a base is consumed no more than the body becomes basic when acids are consumed (unless consumed in MASSIVE quantities, quantities that would kill you by over hydration… just as water would). To get the effects outlined in this article, you’d have to mainline milk. How many of us are hooked up to a milk IV?

    It’s common knowledge our bodies do not easily absorb calcium, from milk or ANY OTHER source… without vitamin D. Vitamin D allows us to more easily absorb and use calcium, hence why it’s added to milk (and most calcium vitamins).

    On an anecdotal note, I have guzzled milk for 37 years simply for the delicious enjoyment, and I have NEVER broken a bone, including several times I should have. My genetics and family history tell me that my teeth should be crumbling out of my head by now, and although I have cavities, my teeth are amazingly strong for the state they’re in.

    This article, and website it’s attached to is designed to do one thing, frighten you into purchasing their products. They are here for one reason, to make money, and they aren’t afraid to libel milk to do so.

    Never listen to only one voice. Do your homework and do your own research. Nullius In Verba.

    • Justin February 15, 2015, 11:41 am

      About time someone said something smart. I can’t argue enough against this site and it’s B.S. it stats all thesender studies are saying milk is no good. Yet it doesn’t have one reference to any of these said studies. Do people actually believe this shit?

    • Robert February 10, 2015, 3:51 pm

      You couldn’t be more right! this article is utter non-sense. it’s so pathetic when sites like this arise pushing false information to get people to buy their products. whats even worse is that these sites also falsely claim to have the full support of certain scientific studies. the studies and trials mentioned in the article above only somewhat barely support the contention of the author, none of them even remotely said that milk makes your bones weaker.

    • Zoe Duncan January 24, 2015, 5:11 am

      Correction. I said milk is a base which isn’t accurate. In reality, the PH of milk is VERY close to the Neutral PH of 7. In litmus it would actually test as ever so slightly acidic. It does have other components that, especially when consumed, trends to the base side of the scale. This is partly why rennet begins the separation of curd and whey. Acid is only one chemical component of digestion, your saliva and intestinal juices have all sorts of enzymes and compounds that aid in digesting all sorts of components of our food. There is no single chemical responsible for digestion, and stomach acid does not and cannot break down food on it’s own.

      Drinking way too much milk is just as detrimental as drinking too little milk (in different ways). Moderation is key, as with all things.

      • Bob February 26, 2015, 6:25 pm

        Hi Zoe

        The body is not made acidic by consuming foods that are acidic. Some foods turn the body more acidic and others more alkaline but this is not related to the pH of the food itself. Milk is not good for you.

  45. Abriella January 22, 2015, 12:46 pm

    I for one disagree with this article- albeit, not COMPLETELY.
    See, I’m guessing you’re an adult, well, my mom once told me that adults had less tolerance for milk, she never explained why, so I always figured t was just bad for their health.
    However, she told me that yoghurt, which just so happens to be made out of milk, was good for preventing certain diseases due to certain bacteria which help to boost your immunity.
    Furthermore, I would like to point out that our stomachs, which contain hydrochloric acid and are covered with an alkaline barrier would need something to keep them going, namely acids, or else they would become neutral and no food would get digested.
    And lastly, may I point out that here you mention the downsides of milk, as it is “acidic” but, may I ask, what about stuff like lemonade, which, correct me if I’m wrong, contains more acid than milk?
    My point stands that you can’t just point out the flaw in one product without: research (which I’m seeing you have), investigations (ma’am you’d have to pull them off yourself, or it’d just fall under research) and evidence.
    I rest my case, and thank you to those who read for reading this.
    -Abby

    • Devin January 22, 2015, 4:09 pm

      You make some good points, Abby. I’ll address them in order. First, it is possible that as humans develop into older age, their bodies lose the capabilities they once had that allowed milk to be digested more easily, so your mom may be right. This does not necessarily mean, however, that milk is healthy. It could mean that the unhealthy effects of milk are experienced less in younger humans compared to older humans.

      Second, yogurt, although it is made with milk, loses some of the harmful aspects of milk through the fermentation process and gains some beneficial aspects through this process. Yogurt is fermented with bacteria, and consuming these bacteria can be beneficial for humans because it helps to add healthy bacteria to the colon. As you mentioned, this can boost the immune system because these intestinal bacteria play an important role in human immunity. However, depending on the overall health of a person’s colon, any kind of dairy, including yogurt, could potentially cause harm. We can conclude here that yogurt is in some ways healthy for humans but is still unhealthy in some ways.

      Third, the stomach actually produces its own acid! It is called gastric acid, and you can learn more about it by searching for gastric acid in Wikipedia.

      Fourth, although certain foods, such as tomatoes, lemons, and other fruits, are acidic before being eaten, they actually become alkaline within the body because of how they are digested. I don’t know much about this process, but I do know that this is the case. Other substances, like milk, become acidic after digestion. When discussing the pH of foods, it is normally the post-digestion pH that is used.

      Keep up the research and keep contributing! Never stop asking questions. Question everything!

      Love and respect,
      Devin

  46. AJ January 22, 2015, 7:51 am

    Has anyone thought that the reason animals don’t drink milk past infancy is because they’re to big to suck on their mother’s teets and she might be gone by then anyway?!

  47. tyrone gibson January 20, 2015, 2:43 pm

    i like fried chicken and milk… milk is good

    • Brian February 12, 2015, 1:42 am

      awesome

  48. Lilian January 19, 2015, 12:19 pm

    Basically what we should do is to take it moderately, everything should be taken in moderation, I found out that an excess of anything at all, even the so called healthy stuff, cause harm to the body. The people who had bone fracture problems because they tool dairy milk had such problems because they took an excess of it regularly. The high calcium and protein contained in milk can not be neglected because of some side effect which arises of course from excess intake of milk. To all we need do is to create a balance. by taking it in moderately.

    • Brian February 12, 2015, 1:46 am

      I bet we should be all worried about grilling food and microwaves too. Ill take my chances. Il prob have a smoke and feel sorry for all people that want to live until they are 100. (and from a healthcareperspective) Next will be a discussion of nitrates

      • Aaliyah March 28, 2015, 1:07 pm

        I am drinking strawberry milk it is so sweet to me I can stop drinking it I always won’t

  49. Natasha January 17, 2015, 4:10 pm

    Just with the knowledge that milk contains artificial hormones and antibiotics should make you think that it might be not the best idea to eat it or even feed it to your children.
    Other than that milk, it is one of the most cruel productions as cows are kept overcrowded, imprisoned, having to have their calf taken away the minute after giving it birth.
    Animals are not product, they have lives just like you and me and they shouldn’t suffer because of our ignorance.
    I have had endometriosis that went away after I stopped milk products. Now I know that milk is not for me.

  50. A Guest January 16, 2015, 1:24 pm

    Moderate intake of milk is fine.

    http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/calcium-full-story/

  51. Dr. Dixie January 14, 2015, 8:09 am

    When you think of drinking milk….ask yourself these questions.
    1. What animal, besides humans, drinks milk outside of infancy?
    2. What animal, besides humans, drinks another animal’s milk?

    Just because media/advertising/ cute slogans has convinced you that milk is good for you doesn’t make true. There is way more calcium and vitamin D3 in other foods. If you are concerned about bone density…..eat some kale and lift some weights. Wolfe’s Law

    • SidThekid February 27, 2015, 1:58 am

      We had a dog that we fed milk all the time along with wheat bread. That was about 30 years ago when I was about 10-12 yrs. of age. My daughter recently got a puppy and doctor strictly prohibited milk and wheat products. Does it prove that ignorance is bliss.? And hey, the dog we had in my childhood never had any problem. So we can remove the analogy of drinking milk of another species. Rest of the discussion, lets carry on, it hasn’t reached the climax yet.

    • Max February 16, 2015, 12:27 am

      What animal besides humans can type? What animal besides humans uses computers? What animal besides humans have powerplants? What animal besides humans have Internet? What animals besides humans have been to space? What animals besides humans drive cars? What animals besides humans build skyscrapers? Why animals besides humans purify their water because of bacteria? What animals besides humans go to restaurants? What animals besides humans…

    • Jay January 17, 2015, 4:38 am

      What other animal, besides humans, wears clothes?
      What other animal, besides humans, drinks anything but pure table water (most human’s I’ve met have never even drunk a simple unflavoured cup of pure water in decades).
      What other animal, besides humans, does not eat only what it itself has hunted, gathered, or scavenged.

      Humans are a lot of exceptions to animals, milk being one of them, and just because other animals don’t do it does not mean it is bad for humans.

  52. Andrew Rockliffe January 12, 2015, 9:03 am

    The biggest lesson we can all learn is to forget the rhetoric, forget the claims, just look at the number and nature of the comments. 2,680 comments, many vitriolic, many personal attacks, many implying that people have no right to comment unless they have a Phd. Most of the other discussions on this site manage to get 10-30 comments. This methodology is repeated ad nauseam across the internet, on any subject which questions long held ‘beliefs’. Work it out yourselves.

  53. Yoke January 7, 2015, 3:18 pm

    I totally agree with Chris’s response. This author is claiming that by consuming milk you’re going to raise your blood pH acidity. As if that has anything to do with causing your body to leach calcium from your bones.

    If that’s the case, then anyone who works out, especially body builders, who have very high blood acidity and keystones must also have weak bones?

    It’s common science that anyone who lifts weights or exercises will have elevated keystones and blood pH. So must we all stop working out to keep our bones strong??

    • Dr. Dixie January 14, 2015, 8:00 am

      Wolfs Law: Bone under pressure will build bone. Example: Arthritis

      So milk is damaging but the weight lifting is the most beneficial for bone density. It’s all about moderation.

  54. Ched January 6, 2015, 8:26 am

    bone* density …

    Site needs edit option…

  55. ched January 6, 2015, 8:18 am

    Wow, a self proclaimed non-milk-drinker is diagnosed as having osteoporosis and then takes the time to write a long ass article saying why milk is bad for you.

    Self proclaimed milk-drinker here, bones 18% denser than average.

    Landed on my wrists after tripping backwards, did not break forearms. Had an X-ray done and that’s when none density was discovered.
    Only sprained them.

    • Darcy January 16, 2015, 5:42 pm

      Correlation does not imply causation. The fact you didn’t break a bone is not proof that milk made your bones strong. There are other factors that play as well. It’s like saying “my mom smoked cigarettes all her life and didn’t get lung cancer, so cigarettes don’t cause lung cancer”. We need a bigger sample size.

      30 percent of the world’s population drink cow’s milk. There are higher incidences of osteoporosis in people who do drink milk than those who don’t drink milk. That’s a sample size I can swallow.

      How healthy is pasteurized milk (which the majority of people drink) compared to raw milk? Here is a study that fed 2 calves the different milk and then compared the results. Grant you it’s a small sample size but I think the point is made and a larger study should be undertaken.

      https://thebovine.wordpress.com/2010/06/04/the-tale-of-two-calves-one-calf-got-raw-milk-the-other-pasteurized/#more-16769

      • Max February 16, 2015, 12:33 am

        Wouldn’t the higher rate of diagnosed osteoporosis be a result of the fact that regions that drink milk tend to be more technologically and medically advanced than regions that do not, therefore there is a greater amount of testing and reporting of osteoporosis in the former regions than the latter?

        • Chang March 4, 2015, 11:50 am

          Also, perhaps the higher rate of osteoporosis in milk-drinkers could be due in part to those people who are already aware of their family’s history of osteoporosis and thus try to prevent further damage by drinking more milk? I read a report that said that it’s quite possible that milk is more a “neutral” substance than a “bad” one, in the sense that it won’t heal you from osteoporosis or make your bones much stronger than if you didn’t drink milk, but it isn’t going to destroy your bones either, as long as you drink it in moderation.

  56. Sofia January 4, 2015, 3:26 pm

    Hello! I live in a village where the neighborhood ladies make homemade yogurt and kefir with grass-fed cows (it’s a rural village, so there are no hormones/grains to feed the cows/etc.). I was wondering if these are ok for consumption? The article said that animal proteins and the acidity from dairy products are bad, but then it said that dairy and kefir were neutral? Any replies would be useful, thanks!

    • Adam January 7, 2015, 1:45 am

      I’m wondering why the dumbass that wrote this article said milk is acidic, I’m guessing this person doesn’t know what the hell they are talking about, blood has a ph of 7.0 which is neutral and milk has a ph of 6.7 so at most on a litmus test milk would register as slightly acidic, milk is at most barely acidic I feel bad for the idiot who wrote this article and spread lies to see to their own agenda against milk.

      • Bryce January 21, 2015, 1:25 pm

        Milk becomes acidifying to the body after digestion. It is the interaction of the milk with gastric juices that produce this effect.
        Lemons are very acidic on their own. But they are highly alkalinizing to the body!!

      • Jay January 17, 2015, 5:02 am

        Even more ridiculous: almond milk is better because it is alkalizing, so if you translate that sentence it disrupts the pH of the blood just like bad old acidic milk only on the other side of the scale.

        The biggest problem I have with this article is “I strongly suggest consuming only organic soy milk”. Soy is very rich in protein one of the most rich in protein foods in existence. This may sound good However protein is in general toxic (that’s why meat and other high in protein foods should be kept in moderation) and very difficult to process with Soy protein being exceptionally toxic.

        I strongly recommend to never consume Soy milk or any Soy product ever, and as for milk I recommend it only in moderation. My main consumption of milk comes from the froth on my cappuccino, that amount does me no harm.

  57. AK December 22, 2014, 1:31 pm

    In additional to daily pains (stomach/abdominal pains, migraines, lower back pain, joint pain, stick necks, and a few more I can’t think of right now), high cholestrol, mucas/flem, flu symptons and allergies. I was taking pain killer almost every other day!! I would almost always have 4-6oz whole milk before bed. At 34, I stopped drinking milk or eating/drinking anything having dairy (even casein or ghee). All my symptons are gone!!! I no longer follow every advice of Doctor’s or Government!!
    I work in warehousing so lifting heavy items hasn’t hurt my bones. Now my elbows don’t lock up anymore!!!

  58. Noory December 15, 2014, 4:57 pm

    I wanted to mention very before that I have seen in such several sites a woman breast feeding her kitty and dogy etc . Through watching these videos I personally feel bad and unconditional because if you have much milk in your breasts it’s better to save in a bottle and send to those needy child whose mom doesn’t have milky… No offense if we talk about the right of animal it doesn’t mean you do such a job that clearly define wrong meaning. My advice to such mothers are please ! Use your milk is such away that becomes beneficial for other human ( being human )… I wish there is side effect of Brest feeding animals just to stop the people…

    • Bek December 23, 2014, 4:39 pm

      What an idiot

  59. Chris December 6, 2014, 2:22 am

    Here are the concerns I have about what you are claiming: The human body is all about efficiency. You recognize the fact that milk does contain a great deal of calcium in it. And you claim that drinking milk results in an acidic state which in turn results in the body needing to leach calcium from the bones themselves. Striping bones of calcium would seem to be the least efficient means of neutralizing acidic pH in your body. Since milk already comes with a great deal of calcium would the body not utilize that calcium rather than calcium from its bones to neutralize an acidic pH state? 250 ml of milk contains approximately 45% of a person’s recommended daily intake of calcium double that and you have 90%. Adversely 250 ml of milk also contains approximately 9 grams of protein, so depending what you weigh and what your activity level is like that is only5 to 10% of your recommended daily intake of protein. Slam 500 ml of milk and you’re getting 10 to 20 percent of your recommended daily intake of protein. Do you see where I’m going with this? The concern you have with milk is that it contains so much animal protein that the result is this desperate acidic state where the body needs to rip its bones of precious calcium . There is more protein in a large chicken breast than in 500 ml of milk and absolutely no calcium. So is it bad for our health to eat a chicken breast on its own? You also claim that there is very little research that supports milk being a beneficial source of nutrients for the bones excetera. If you look it up you will find countless University published papers that support milk as being a valuable nutrient rich drink. As far as the correlation between bone fractures in our country compared to other countries who consume much less dairy; which countries are these and are there perhaps other correlations between their diets and their lifestyles that might attribute to having less bone breaks? Everyone always says “we are the only species that drinks another species milk” we are also the only species that consumes animal and plant products from every corner of the globe. We are the only species that processes food and does countless other things to do with our diet that no other species does so that is a ridiculous argument. We are the only species that drinks tea does that mean tea is bad for us? We are the only species that cooks our meat and refrigerates our food and drink. are these things going to cause cancer and broken bones?I’m not trying to be an ass I would seriously love these question to be answered. Since puberty I consume on average 2 to 4 liters of milk every 24 to 48 hours. I have come to recognize that the lactose contained in regular milk is not the best thing for your health. I have changed to lactose free skim milk. I have never broken a bone in my life I kick box and I’m able to strike hard objects with my shins and elbows with great effect. I I am 32 years old and milk is a major staple in my diet I am open to what you are saying however I would like my concerns addressed as I have heard other people preach the same thing yet leave the same holes in their argument. I apologize for the poor grammar but I have to use talk and text because I have carpal tunnel syndrome… Perhaps from drinking too much milk? 😉

    • Adam January 7, 2015, 1:46 am

      Exactly the writer of this article is an idiot.

    • Rainette64 December 8, 2014, 6:59 am

      Exactly! I had the same syndrom and had an operation on both hands. I always felt the symdrom was still there. 14 years after this operation, I could not fold my fingers anymore; could not walk and work in the garden anymore and thought i would be in a wheelchair soon. I removed cheese, yogurt and milk from my diet and have never been so fit in my life! Just try this: swap your glass of milk with a green juice for one month… and see the changes by yourself!

      • Dennis January 9, 2015, 9:40 pm

        Sounds like a good ad pitch.

  60. Wolf November 29, 2014, 10:08 pm

    I don’t drink milk…I never have. I mean, they forced me every once in a while as a child. I simply vomited immediately after (self defense). Worked like a charm…they figured out I hated the stuff. To this day (I’m 32) I have never broken a bone (even though I rode mountain bikes like a demon, snowboarded and jumped horses…crashed horribly doing all three multiple times) and have good, strong teeth. Anyhow, not gonna ramble on. Milk is for baby cows…not people. Even the baby cows GROW UP and stop drinking milk. Humans are so weird!

    • David January 19, 2015, 1:27 pm

      You’re as moronic as the author. Ever had cheese? Yogurt? I’m going to take a wild guess and say yes to both. Congratulations, you’ve had milk. I’m surprised you’ve survived 32 years with your level of intelligence.

  61. hari November 28, 2014, 2:11 am

    i was searching for the effects of milk in human i found two sites in which one is yours and other one favors the consumption of milk
    they say,

    {“Milk is an excellent source of vitamins and minerals, particularly calcium. It has long been recognised for its important role in bone health. Nutritionists recommend that milk and other dairy products such as yoghurt and cheese should be consumed daily as part of a balanced diet.

    There is some inaccurate information around in the general community about the negative impacts of milk on health. Changing your milk intake on the basis of these myths may mean you are unnecessarily restricting this highly nutritious drink.

    Milk contains many different nutrients

    Milk and milk products contain a good balance of protein, fat and carbohydrate and are a very important source of essential nutrients, including:
    calcium
    riboflavin
    phosphorous
    vitamins A, and B12
    potassium
    magnesium
    zinc
    Milk products also contain ‘high-quality proteins’ that are well suited to human needs. For example, having milk with cereal can provide amino acids that may be lacking in the cereal product.

    Milk and health conditions

    Australians tend to restrict dairy foods when they try to lose weight, believing them to be fattening. Dairy foods contain saturated fats, which have been associated with increased blood cholesterol levels. However, dairy foods like milk, yoghurt and cheese (particularly low-fat products) are not a threat to good health if consumed in moderation as part of a well-balanced nutritious diet.

    Some research findings include:
    Osteoporosis – if milk and milk products are removed from the diet, it can lead to an inadequate intake of calcium. This is of particular concern for women over the age of 50 and the elderly, who have high calcium needs. Calcium deficiency may lead to disorders like osteoporosis (a disease characterised by a loss of bone).
    Colorectal cancer – according to the Australian Dietary Guidelines, recent evidence suggests that people who regularly eat more than one serve of dairy products each day (particularly milk) have a reduced risk of developing colon cancer.
    Blood pressure – research in the US found that a high intake of fruits and vegetables, combined with low-fat dairy foods, will lower blood pressure more than fruits and vegetables alone.
    Type 2 diabetes – a 10-year study of 3,000 overweight adults found that consuming milk and other milk products instead of refined sugars and carbohydrates may protect overweight young adults from developing type 2 diabetes.
    Flavoured milk

    Milk is an important source of nutrients for children. A glass of milk with a small amount of flavouring (such as one level teaspoon of chocolate powder) is a healthier option for children than other sugar-sweetened drinks such as soft drinks, flavoured waters, fruit drinks and cordials.

    However, if you choose to give your child flavoured milk, this should be done in moderation.

    As children move into adolescence, the time when they need the most calcium, they tend to drink less milk and more sugary soft drinks. As milk is a healthier choice, it is worth encouraging adolescents to drink reduced-fat flavoured milk rather than soft drinks.

    Water and plain milk are the best drinks for children and adolescents.

    Milk and tooth decay

    Milk and milk products are thought to protect against tooth decay. Eating cheese and other dairy products:
    reduces oral acidity (which causes decay)
    stimulates saliva flow
    decreases plaque formation
    decreases the incidence of dental caries (tooth decay).
    Types of pasteurised milk

    There are many types of milks on the market, including:
    Full cream – full-cream milk contains around four per cent fat. For children up to the age of two years, full-cream milk is recommended.
    Reduced fat – expect around half as much fat in reduced-fat milk as full cream. Children over the age of two years can drink reduced-fat milk.
    Skim milk – contains a maximum of 0.15 per cent fat. There are some brands of reduced-fat and skim milk that have vitamin A and D added to replace the naturally occurring vitamins that are reduced when the fat is removed.
    Calcium enriched – a 250 ml glass of calcium-enriched milk contains 408–500 mg of calcium.
    Flavoured – these milks can either be full cream or reduced fat. However, most varieties contain added sugar and should be consumed only sometimes.
    UHT (ultra-high temperature-treated) milk – is treated with very high heat to allow milk to be stored for long periods.
    Unpasteurised milk

    Most milk on the market is pasteurised (heat treated then cooled). Milk that hasn’t been through this process should be avoided. While pasteurisation reduces the amount of some vitamins, such as vitamin C, it also kills bacteria. Unpasteurised milk is a health hazard because of the dangers of bacterial diseases.

    Milk and mucous

    Many people in Australia believe that nasal stuffiness is related, in part, to how much milk you drink. However, there is no scientific basis to this theory. Milk doesn’t encourage extra mucous production.

    Cow’s milk versus goat’s milk

    Some people switch to goat’s milk because of perceived sensitivities to cow’s milk. If a person has an allergic sensitivity, it is usually due to one or more of the proteins in milk. The proteins in goat’s milk are closely related to those in cow’s milk, so replacing one type of milk with the other usually doesn’t make any difference. Milk allergies are more common in very young children and most tend to grow out of them or build up a tolerance to milk.

    Lactose intolerance

    Lactose is a type of carbohydrate or sugar that naturally occurs in milk from any mammal, including humans. Normally, an enzyme in the small intestine called lactase breaks down lactose so it can be absorbed into the bloodstream. Some people don’t produce enough lactase – undigested lactose is broken up by the bacteria in their large intestine causing gas, bloating, pain and diarrhoea. This condition is called ‘lactose intolerance’.

    You can be born lactose intolerant or develop it later in life. If you think you may be lactose intolerant, see your doctor.

    Milk and milk products are highly nutritious, so people who suffer from lactose intolerance should not give them up entirely. You can still consume milk in moderate quantities. You can also buy lactose-free milk.

    Most people can tolerate the amount of lactose in:
    half a cup of milk
    three quarters of a cup of yoghurt
    three quarters of a cup of unripened cheeses like cottage or ricotta.
    Some dairy foods contain less lactose

    Some dairy foods contain less lactose than others and may be better for people who suffer from lactose intolerance. For example:
    Fermented milk products, including some yoghurts, mature cheeses (like cheddar cheese, fetta and mozzarella) and butter, generally pose no tolerance problems. (However, butter is high in saturated fat and is not recommended for good heart health.)
    Heated milk products, such as evaporated milk, seem to be better tolerated than unheated foods, because the heating process breaks down some of the lactose.
    Foods that contain lactose are better tolerated if eaten with other foods or spread out over the day, rather than being eaten in large amounts at once.

    Soy as an alternative

    Soy foods are lactose free and a good substitute for milk or milk products if fortified with calcium. Soy milk, custard, yoghurt and cheese are now widely available in Australia, but check that they are calcium fortified.

    Other sources of calcium

    Although milk is an excellent source of calcium, it isn’t the only one. Other good sources include:
    cheese, especially hard cheeses
    yoghurt
    calcium-fortified soy products
    calcium fortified rice drinks
    calcium-fortified cereals and orange juice
    fish with edible bones, like canned salmon and sardines
    some nuts (almonds, brazil nuts)
    sesame seeds (and tahini)
    dried fruit (figs, apricots)
    dark green leafy vegetables (Asian greens like bok choy).
    Daily calcium requirements

    To meet the body’s daily calcium requirement, it is recommended that adults eat between two and a half to four serves of dairy products a day.

    One serve is equivalent to:
    250 ml (one cup) milk – fresh, UHT long-life or reconstituted dried
    120 ml (1/2 cup) evaporated unsweetened milk
    200 g (3/4 cup or one small carton) yoghurt
    40 g (two slices, or a 4x3x2 cm piece) hard cheese (such as cheddar)
    120 g ricotta cheese
    250 ml (one cup) soy, rice or other cereal drink with at least 100 mg of added calcium per 100 ml
    People who do not eat any dairy products may have difficulty meeting their daily calcium requirements. They will need to pay special attention to other dietary sources of calcium.

    Where to get help
    Your doctor
    Gastroenterologist
    Dietitians Association of Australia Tel. 1800 812 942
    Things to remember
    Milk is an excellent source of calcium and other essential nutrients.
    There are many modified milks available.
    Lactose intolerance is caused by an inability to digest the natural sugar in milk, but most people can tolerate small amounts of milk.
    Flavoured milks (reduced fat varieties, for children over two years) are preferable to soft drinks and fruit drinks but should be consumed in small amounts.

    This page has been produced in consultation with and approved by:
    Deakin University – Faculty of Health and Behavioural Sciences”}

    so which should i belive??

    • kurt lowder December 3, 2014, 2:19 am

      YOU SHOULD BELIEVE THE ARTICLE SAYING MILK IS BAD. THE DAIRY AND FOOD INDUSTRY PROBABLY PAID FOR THE OTHER STUDY. THEY DO THAT JUST LIKE THE TOBACCO COMPANY

      • Steve December 22, 2014, 8:57 am

        Two general rules to live by:
        1) Don’t trust anybody who tries to dispense health information using all caps in an online forum.
        2) Don’t trust anybody who tries to dispense health information who doesn’t have any nutrition credentials, a Ph.D. in anything, or as far as we know even a GED.

        There is a common trait among people who tend to live well beyond 100 years old. Guess what it is? They drink milk. But you go ahead and limit yourself of critical nutrition. I guess in a way, it’s a variation of Darwinism at work.

        • Bob February 26, 2015, 6:31 pm

          believe longest living nation is Japan, where hardly any dairy is consumed in the traditional diet?

      • Robert Dickow December 6, 2014, 1:07 pm

        The article on why milk is bad is rife with pseudoscience and unsupported claims. Why should we believe that stuff? Only because we are looking for more demons to blame for our ills, that’s why. The fact is, eating dairy in moderation is no more harmful than eating bread in moderation. Do everything in moderation and no problems will develop for you. Eat a half gallon of ice cream every day and you’ll probably get sick and die. If you do, it’s not because the milk was bad for you. Think about it.

        • Steve December 22, 2014, 9:22 am

          Vivian Goldschmidt has an MA (“Master of Arts”) in an undisclosed field. These articles steer you toward her “bone density program,” which is NOT free. Because she cares so much about you and getting the “truth” out there that she wants you to pay for it.

          Vivian, care to retort?

          • Steve December 26, 2014, 8:35 am

            “No mammal needs milk beyond infancy.”

            Yes, perhaps no mammal NEEDS anything beyond the most basic of essentials. No mammal NEEDS optimal nutrition. No mammal NEEDS to live in air conditioning or to utilize modern medicine. And yet, most mammals don’t live beyond 20 years. Humans were lucky to make it to 35 before we got past only what we NEED.

            Seldom is the absolute necessity optimal.

          • James December 23, 2014, 6:34 am

            As far as I know a cow produces milk for it’s children – similar to other mammals. A cow does not produce milk if it did not have a calve. A mammal’s milk contains certain amount of protein in order for the baby mammal to grow. A cow’s milk is suitable for a baby cow, as is a human’s milk for its baby. No mammal needs milk beyond infancy. There are various studies that the milk industry tried to conceal the unfavourable outcomes of their studies. I suggest you go watch a youtube video titled “Perils of Dairy”, it is quite self-explanatory. I hope you make the right choice for yourself and the animals.

  62. Hannah November 22, 2014, 5:20 pm

    a .com website? Not written by a PHD? Not peer-reviewed? Sounds SUPER legit.

    Yeah, sure. Okay.

    • Peter November 22, 2014, 9:37 pm

      Where is your counter-argument?

      Arguing someone’s credibility and the name of the website is retarded.

      • Steve December 22, 2014, 9:16 am

        Yeah dude arguing someone’s credibility when it comes to health and nutrition is RETARDED.
        By the way, did you see the latest study?! Bleach is actually full of vitamins and nutrients and you should drink at least a gallon a day. Don’t believe the anti-bleach, government-paid nay-sayers. Live forever, Peter, and start drinking bleach right away. Remember, don’t question my credentials. :)

      • Josh November 24, 2014, 9:13 am

        Those arguments are actually substantial and true.

        • Josh November 25, 2014, 10:58 pm

          “the major potential source of bias was the use of subject recall to measure exposures that occured many decades in the past. Studies comparing exposure data actually collected many years in the past with recall of that exposure suggests that height;weight; smoking; and alcohol, tea, and coffee consumption are recalled reasonably accurately (26-32). However, the quality of recalled data on diary products and physical activity is questionable (25,27-30,32), and so our results for these two exposures should be interpreted with great caution. We assessed the reproducibility of long-term recall in a sample of our study subjects (33), but have no information on the validity of our exposure data, nor do we know whether validity differed between cases and controls.”

          I’m bored of quoting. Almost this entire discussion counters your points, and though their may be some studies that suggest it may have a correlation, that is substantially less than the countless articles which counter your point.

          When reading papers, remember to consider methodology. I know papers can be a lot to read through, but considering sample sizes as well as considering bias within arguments is important. For instance, areas with increased dairy consumption also show increased rate of osteoperosis? Odds are that study was focused on areas with higher population, higher population is going to show both higher dairy intake (due to increased wealth most likely), as well as increased rates because of population size.

          The paper also has in the discussion that increased dairy consumption is probably correlated with increased protein consumption and tackles the argument from that side as well.

          The consumption of milk has been shown to aid in growth of children. If you have knowledge of human anatomy you should probably know that bone growth is dependent on calcium, especially at young ages.

          In this study, it shows that bone fractures are shown to occur 4 times more frequently in girls who are unable to drink milk and are treated with a non-dairy diet.

          http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3738995/

          This article also references many more papers referring to this topic.

          It is also important to note that the paper you reference is 20 years old.
          Perhaps looking into more recent papers would be important as well.

          • Josh November 25, 2014, 11:07 pm

            For more information as to my points, check out:

            http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/calcium-full-story/

            but be sure to read the article in FULL. there are points about cancer, but if you READ you will see that it is specifying the increased calcium as a potential cause, not specifically dairy product consumption.

  63. JohnnyWhite November 22, 2014, 2:01 pm

    The author prefers almond milk, but this watered-down junk is “fortified” with calcium carbonate–try finding a commercial brand without this powdered chalk–and this is the worst form of calcium one could ingest. Also, almond milk typically is thickened with carragenan, a known to have mutagenic properties, as well as with gellan gum, which is not shown to be safe, or anything other than an anit-nutrient. In that lite, I prefer kefir to almond milk any day.

    • SLK December 2, 2014, 3:05 am

      Why not make homemade almond milk so it doesn’t have all the additives? Soaked almonds + filtered water + high powered blender + cheese cloth = almond milk

      • Bella December 6, 2014, 1:34 am

        Exactly! One cup of almonds = 38% of your daily calcium requirement. 1 part almonds to 2 parts boiling water. Blend, strain, and drink. Perfect and delicious. Better for you, better for the planet, better for the baby calves who are a by product of the dairy industry! :)

  64. Granny 4 Barrel November 21, 2014, 8:18 pm

    Back in the old days folks used to have their own gardens(veggies, non GMO wheat etc…made their own bread)…….had their own chickens(meat and eggs)….milked their own cows(milk, yogurt, cheese, butter)…..all that food could’ve been considered organic….because, well ….that was the norm….and worked their asses off in the fields(exercise, cardio)….life was simpler ….food was better and folks were less stressed out
    It’s about a balance people…find good wholesome food….eat a nice variety…get some damn exercise ….and chill the hell out! Trust me everything’s gonna be just fine and so will your bones.
    Remember the Walton’s? They had all of the above and even some occasional moonshine from the Baldwin sisters….if it’s good enough for John Boy it’s good enough for you…lol!

    • Barry February 11, 2015, 6:19 am

      I seriously doubt most people grew their own wheat. They made their own bread, though. And farm work would not be considered cardio, but I see what you’re saying. And yeah I’m sure life was simpler, but I don’t think it was less stressful, since so many died from diseases we have no problem fighting now. If I had lived back then, I would’ve died of pneumonia when I was 7 years old. I’ll bet it’s pretty stressful watching half of your family die before they’re 30.

      But you’re right, everyone needs to chill out. There’s a new “horrible food” revelation every month, it’s almost like a fad. Exercise, more veggies and wholesome foods, and don’t sweat the small stuff. We’d all live much better lives if all people did these things.

  65. Kylie November 19, 2014, 9:18 am

    I do not typically jump on bandwagons but I have to agree with the author. I’m currently working in the medical field and am going to school with the intent of going through medical school and what she is saying is scientifically sound. I also drink almond milk, not because I’m one of those people who opts for holistic health or trendy choices, but because I can tell a difference in how I feel when I drink milk. It makes me feel ill. It is also absolutely true that it is designed for calves and not for humans. God made people with a different body chemistry and different nutritional needs than those of animals, if he intended for humans to have cow milk then our own milk would be more similar- but its not.

    • Doğukan November 27, 2014, 10:52 am

      1- If it milk makes you feel ill, you should probably get tested for lactose intolerance. Your argument has no credibility and, frankly, makes me wonder how you are going to a medical school.
      2- “God made people with a different body chemistry and different nutritional needs than those of animals. If he intended for humans to have cow milk then our own milk would be more similar- but its not.” Girl, is that nonsense. Did God really create us? I don’t wanna go into a religious discussion, but you’re using the supposed presence of God as part of your evidence, which is a silly thing to do, especially considering you so happen to be working in the medical field where facts and reasoning is used to draw conclusions and not faith and belief. Also, just because humans and cows have different nutritional needs, doesn’t mean milk is unhealthy whatsoever. That’s just like saying we shouldn’t eat meat because lions also eat the same type of meat and they have different nutritional needs. While cow milk is indeed specialized for calves, it is also healthy for humans and essentially our body chemistry isn’t that different. Two animals with different nutritional needs can consume the same thing and both can benefit from the consumption of that good without any health problems.

      Both your arguments are illogical and have no factual basis. If you have nothing valuable to add that can be verified, then don’t say anything at all.

      • Jo December 3, 2014, 9:45 am

        Strong people help others, they don’t stomp them. If you did your research you would see the detrimental effect of milk. The studies for the counter argument are all funded by big pharma. I guess they really want healthy people, aye.
        Calcium is depleted from the bones to neutralise the acidity caused to the blood. One characteristic all cancer patients share is acidic blood. If you neutralise the blood cancer cannot grow. I wish you could see drinking milk is in no way healthy. Nasty, cancer causing stuff. Go Vegan! :-)

        • barry February 11, 2015, 6:25 am

          Milk does not cause cancer, and “neutralizing” the blood does not prevent cancer. I think you got the cause/effect mixed up there, meaning cancer can affect the pH of the blood, not that a change in blood pH causes cancer.

        • Dennis January 9, 2015, 9:47 pm

          That’s a good one.

  66. Craig November 13, 2014, 4:41 pm

    Seriously some of the worst misinformation. Wow. Why does anyone want to break down milk. What is the point? You are not saving anyone with this silliness. Maybe you are paid by Coca Cola or something. I don’t think they sell milk.

    • Paul February 8, 2015, 11:38 am

      Cocacola is actually starting to sell milk to promote ‘bone health.’ So no, you’re wrong.

    • Peter November 22, 2014, 9:40 pm

      “Seriously some of the worst misinformation.”

      Want to name worse misinformation?

      “Why does anyone want to break down milk.”

      It’s not about want. It’s about health, studies and facts. You can WANT to eat dirt. Is it healthy? NO.

      “What is the point?”

      To inform people.

      “You are not saving anyone with this silliness.”

      Where did the author say that he/she was saving anyone with this “silliness”. Strawman.

      “Maybe you are paid by Coca Cola or something. I don’t think they sell milk.

      Strawman.
      And even if that WAS the case I do not see anyone of your counter-arguments to the issues raised in the article.

      Want to try again?

    • Amy Perella November 17, 2014, 12:53 pm

      It is not silliness…pasteurization renders the calcium in milk insoluble!

      • Barry February 11, 2015, 6:28 am

        yeah, what the guy below me said. pasteurization is a good thing. I hope you at least don’t make the mistake of giving unpasteurized milk to your children – it can cause undulating fever and kill them. Louis Pasteur is rolling over in his grave right now.

      • Cian January 8, 2015, 7:48 pm

        “According to the United States Centers for Disease Control between 1998 and 2011 79% of the dairy related outbreaks were due to raw milk or cheese products.[39] They report 148 outbreaks, 2,384 illnesses (284 requiring hospitalizations) as well as 2 deaths due to raw milk or cheese products during the same time period.”

  67. sean November 12, 2014, 8:53 pm

    and another thing everything in the world can be linked to cancer.metals in the body is the number one cause of cancer,the doctors in so called scientist I pay with my hard earned tax dollars just make up shit.there’s no two people they have the same reactions to the same food or anything else they put into their bodies.dying and getting sick is the cycle of life.maybe the scientist Can stop the immigrants from coming over here crashing our economy,taking our jobs in spreading their diseases such as Ebola..nope lets study milk instead you know

    • Barry February 11, 2015, 6:30 am

      what the HELL are you talking about? Get your racist ass out of here, no one wants to listen to you spout this crazy nonsense.

    • Alma November 16, 2014, 8:54 am

      Are you resist or what ? There are more people dying from cancer then Ebola in USA, you know….

  68. sean November 12, 2014, 8:41 pm

    getting heart disease or diabetes Or anything else is mostly hereditary. people that never smoked cigarettes a day in their life and die from lung cancer.people that smoke 3 packs of cigarettes a day never have any long problems Its just how you are, everybody is different.eat what you like and what tastes good to you.i love milk I race motocross I drink a glass of milk first thing in the morning and a glass at night and I eat a bowl of cereal every late night.I’m 34 years old and never had any bone problems.I crashed my bike many many times never broken a bone..One food might be bad for you but beneficial to me everybody is different and every bodys body counter reacts different…so stop the bullshit you’re going around telling people about milk and saving the bones..

  69. Joseph Vu November 11, 2014, 9:05 pm

    Wait. Aren’t our stomachs full of acid ?

  70. Doug November 11, 2014, 12:13 pm

    You people that support this are fools. It’s the additives and preservitives in the food that are hurting us. Like the article cleverly breezes over ” (especially unpasteurized)” Because pasteurization is actually what destroys the calcium and other nutrients in the milk, removing any benefit and inserting detriment. The solution is to purchase RAW MILK and dairy products from a local dairy instead of supporting the government controlled, GMO riddled superfoods of the big food industry. You people need to quit spreading misinformation and find the TRUE cause for work. Get the government out of our dairies and get rid of pasteurization/homoginization in our foods. Don’t want them to spoil? Don’t buy so much and let it rot in your fridge. Simple solution.

    • Barry February 11, 2015, 6:32 am

      You’ll kill your children by giving them unpasteurized milk. Please, never have kids. Undulating fever is from drinking unpasteurized milk. Also, almost all dairies ARE local, dummy.

      • Mike May 13, 2015, 9:42 pm

        Barry: You sure have a big mouth for someone who doesn’t know what they’re talking about. Most dairies who sell raw milk feed their cow’s some percentage of grains. They are rarely 100% grass fed. When a cow eats grains it acidifies their rumen which is the cause of these outbreaks. In the early 1900’s the factory farming started, and raw milk began to make people sick. The solution was to pasteurize the milk. When a cow eats its natural diet the milk can be consumed raw. Don’t call other people dummy when you don’t know what you’re talking about, moron.

        By the way, this article is false. It’s surprising how “educated” people can be so wrong. What do you think happens after you swallow food? It gets drenched in HCL, or else we wouldn’t digest food. This means anything you eat becomes acidic in the stomach then neutral due to sodium bicarbonate released from the pancreas which raises the ph of chyme to protect the intestines and allow digestive enzymes to do their work ( they require a certain ph ). So basically, anything you eat becomes acidic, and then neutral to alkaline. The kidney’s is what handles blood ph, and we EXHALE acids. This is why your rate of breathing increases during exercise. It’s your body’s way of ridding yourself of the LACTATE.

        Now, if you do want to drink milk which I’m not sure why you would as cooked greens have more calcium in them, you should drink raw 100% healthy grass fed animals which is extremely rare. Even the leading farm, Mcafee I believe out in california is not 100% grass fed.

  71. stefan November 11, 2014, 1:05 am

    If everyone stopped eating food that is supposedly bad for you the dinner tables of the world would be sad and boring. I have a piece of advice, try your best to eat a large variety of unprocessed (stay out of the centre isles of the grocery store) foods rich in nutrients and flavour, exercise constantly and breathe clean fresh air. Time spent eating is never wasted!

    • Vivian Goldschmidt, MA November 11, 2014, 12:20 pm

      Good advice, Stefan!

  72. María November 8, 2014, 1:20 am

    I was loving this article until you recommended yogourt. Everything that comes from an animal has animal protein, which will not just be bad for your bones but for your health in general (heart disease, diabetes, obesity,…), and don’t forget what the animals go through and the consequences it has on the environment…

  73. Trev November 2, 2014, 1:05 pm

    Bunches of dumbasses in this comment section. All u pus drinkers should check out the latest study

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2014/10/31/study-milk-may-not-be-very-good-for-bones-or-the-body/

    Plz enjoy your Hormone-laden Pus Juice.

    The sooner u people die off the better. Natural selection at its best

    • Amy November 24, 2014, 9:16 am

      The same goes for smokers. The soon they die of lung cancer and other tobacco related diseases, the better.

      • Seb November 29, 2014, 10:47 am

        You two seem like very nice people . . . Tell me, how does other people consumption of milk and tobacco affect your life?

    • Matthew November 13, 2014, 9:22 am

      Pus juice! Good one!!!

  74. derek marlowe November 1, 2014, 8:05 pm

    The dairy industry lobbyists make sure the kids are brainwashed that they need milk to be healthy.

    • T. November 9, 2014, 3:23 pm

      True!!

  75. Rosemary Balfour October 31, 2014, 10:01 pm

    Just wondering how many of you who are condemning the consumption of cows’ milk consume alcohol, regardless of the quantity, or smoke? Certainly some of you will fall into that category. Some of us drink milk because we enjoy the taste. I have done since I was a child. I have never had a broken bone, have excellent bone density and not a hint of ostorporosis. Much ‘scientific’ research ignores certain variables, is susceptible to ulterior motives and in time has been proven questionable at best and totally fallacious at worst. Not saying the Swedish research is. Remember, ‘scientific evidence’, accepted as fact by many stated that vaccination caused autism. Since proven false I believe.

    • derek marlowe November 1, 2014, 8:02 pm

      Have you read ‘The China Study’. What ulterior motives so you think he has? Did he alter his data for his decades long study? Maybe his assistants were accomplices?
      If you like the taste of milk and want to drink it-fine. But your beverage preference is not evidence for or against the science.

  76. Nate the Great October 30, 2014, 5:07 pm

    First of all, calcium is not used to control pH. HCl is released by parietal cells and is used in the stomach to create an acidic environment and then bicarbonate (released by the pancreas) is used to neutralize the HCl once it passes the pyloric sphincter into the small intestine. It’s also bullshit that we don’t absorb the calcium. That is all based on Vitamin D (not a vitamin in reality; a hormone) which causes calcium to be absorbed in the GI tract. Calcitonin and parathyroid hormone are what control blood calcium levels. When blood calcium levels are too high, the thyroid releases calcitonin which causes your osteoblasts to deposit more bone. When blood calcium levels are too low, parathyroid hormone is released. This tells the kidneys to turn Vitamin D2 into Vitamin D3 which does what I said above and also stimulates osteoclasts to break down bone to liberate calcium into the blood. The entire first part of that article is complete and total bullshit.

    • Cana December 17, 2014, 4:27 am

      Yes, I also took a physio class. Just so you know, new research is coming out continuously and what you learn from one semester or year of physiology does not tell the whole story nor do you learn every avenue through which events take place. Obviously, the events she describes when drinking milk could be plausible based on current scientific knowledge of the body otherwise there wouldn’t be so many doctors and healthcare professionals subscribing to the theory. She didn’t just pull this out of her butt, she’s repeating what scientific researchers are theorizing and finding. This idea that milk is actually bad for you has been around for quite some time now. I dare you to challenge the scientists behind these studies who probably did post docs in areas of physiology with your basic knowledge please.

      • Sander May 5, 2015, 1:09 am

        I’d be very interested in seeing any of these supposed scientific findings, considering that this article, which has zero citations, was written by a non-scientists who’s living depends on selling people on the idea that their bones need repair. I am critical of the dairy lobbies, but the same criticism should certainly be extended to all medical statements.

    • Scott November 2, 2014, 2:20 pm

      Where did you learn this information in a government sponsored school?

  77. Shakeel Ahmed October 27, 2014, 1:08 pm

    I am from Indian sub-continent where buffalo milk is very common and is usually unpasteurized. Does this change anything?

    • Richard November 4, 2014, 2:39 am

      Shakeel, you have not provided a source of scientific studies to change my mind about not consuming dairy products heavily. In turn, you should look at the Okinawan diet where little milk and meat was consumed by those now healthy and over 100 years old…

  78. Iodine October 25, 2014, 6:55 am

    I stopped drinking milk because I was tired of it spoiling in the fridge. Then when I learned pasteurizing burns off the calcium and they have to re-add it, I decided to take calcium + vitamin D supplements. There’s also other things that are high in calcium, like broccoli and dandelion greens, or you orange juice with added calcium. I don’t really like the taste of milk, but I still enjoy cheese, ice cream, and chocolate milkshakes once in awhile.

  79. John October 15, 2014, 7:07 pm

    Milk today contains things like many other foods that are not helping us. The milk council made claims of it promoting good health but were not able to prove it. So the commercials no longer have health related statements.

    Milk is not for everyone and may be harming those who react adversely to it. I strongly feel babies should be nursed by their mothers milk, not a cows utter or some formula. that’s what a woman’s breasts were intended for. No comments guys please!

    This site is about Calcium and bone loss. Do as you wish with your milk as we each will do what we feel is best for our health regardless of someone tells us.

    I found some interesting information and results on a medical forum site called inspire. One woman with psoriasis added K2 to her supplements of D3. A week after using K2 she saw a reduction and some clearing of her psoriasis and six weeks later had a majority of it cleared.
    A second women did the same thing but was eating Natto to get K2 and also bought a super K2 from a US site. She was using at least 30,000 iu of D3 a day (15,000iu 2x a day). She changed her diet a little by almost giving up sugar, gluten and has stopped all dairy. She claims dairy was the ticket. Other people have come back and said they also gave up dairy, felt better and saw results.

    What researchers had found was in psoriasis cells in the cytosol there was too much calcium. K2 along with D3 helps to direct calcium to where to belongs, in the bones. Too much calcium in the cell becomes toxic and although the cell has three ways to dump it something was keeping up the levels.

    To date there are more people trying this but as a new post it will weeks before any results come back from others. It appears that eating foods with high K2 and taking a K2 supplement will help direct more calcium to your bones and keep the free calcium from going back into other cells..

    There is more good news. The second woman said her doctor was in awe at the changes in her condition, so much that he is now going to implement this idea in his practice and begin using it on some psoriasis patients in place of drugs.

    I don’t feel dairy lovers need to give it up but reduce the intake if your looking for some special results or want to make what you consider a healthy change. Everything in moderation.
    A note about the Save Our Bones program.
    Before finding this site and buying the book for my wife we spent our time researching the condition. all the information in the book is congruent with what we researched but found much more in the book that helped to get the condition reversed.

    • Gene P November 7, 2014, 11:13 pm

      you sound very informed, John so I find it UTTerly amazing that you think a cow has utters and not udders!

  80. Alesia Caldon September 28, 2014, 11:12 am

    I keep trying to subscribe towards the Letters thing, but there’s nowhere to do so! Once i sign in, under the MANAGE YOUR SUBSCRIPTION weblink, there’s only my Book Club subscription. How do I add the Letters thing for $5?

    http://www.F8lV5WP1yx.com/F8lV5WP1yx

  81. Silvia September 26, 2014, 4:17 pm

    I have just received the Save our bones program today, and on page 21 the author said that we can correct an unhealthy biochemical in balance of our body unless certain abnormal endocrine or gastrointestinal conditions are present. I have reflux and some gastrointestinal problems that it means the program can not work for me. I was diagnose of high osteopenia risk what I suppose to do?

    • Patrick September 29, 2014, 10:16 am

      Silvia,

      I think you’ll find that by changing your diet, even slightly, a lot of those problems will go away. Eating less processed grains and reducing the amount of meat will help with acid re-flux and intestinal issues. Just by increasing the amount of soluble and non-soluble fiber (those found in Vegetables, Fruits, and whole grains) will help significantly. I went from eating a lot of sandwiches on white bread and pizza all the time to having pizza once a week. If I have a sandwich it’s on whole grain bread (5 grams of fiber and protein per slice). I let my weekend be the food that I love to eat. I’ve found that if I make a salad right with a lot of fruits and leafy greens I love it. I eat one for lunch almost every day during the work work.

      A lot of health issues go away or subside just by changing the diet, even slightly.

      Patrick

  82. Neal September 23, 2014, 1:04 pm

    I would hope that we all can take a moment to realize that the milk we buy in stores today is NOT nature’s COW MILK. It is a denatured, disfigured, and sterile substitute. It cannot be processed by so many people, because all the beneficial bacteria have been nuked. It’s a horrible product, and most of what is written in this article I believe to be true.

    BUT, real cow milk, as it comes straight from Nature is a different being altogether. It carries with it the gut flora which will allow a calf or a human being to process it, along with many other things we eat. During World War 2, the western world discovered the anti-biotic and decided that sterility was the key to health. Sterility does not exist in Nature. And sterile milk becomes a poison. But Nature’s milk, straight from the cow, is not sterile, and is VERY good for a person. If you’d like, I would encourage you to research the benefits of REAL, raw cow milk.

    Please don’t point the finger of guilt at cow milk. Go ahead and point it at the pasteurized trash they sell in the store, but not at the REAL stuff that has helped whole nations of people survive and thrive throughout history.

    • Raya September 25, 2014, 11:06 pm

      Hey people, here is some evidence I have found out for myself and the reason I have looked up this information. I have been a physical wreck all my life with joint dysfunction, scoliosis, allergies so bad I used to need an inhaler every day along with powerful antihistamines, and I was slightly overweight even though I stopped eating over-processed foods, which cleared up my skin and made my thought processing better. I was doing fine in the summer time, where I was completely controlling my diet and did not drink very much milk at all, maybe one cup a month, and had completely acne free skin and was doing so well that I was going on extreme biking, hiking, and running trips. I had previously been so bad off that every week I was going in to extreme physical therapy. I then went back to school and started eating school lunch again every few days. I had been biking two miles to school at 5 A.M, then my bones started acting up (Getting extremely weak and as a result, grinding each other whenever I did activities like running or swimming.) and I had to quit. I gained weight and started needing my inhaler every day. I decided that something had gone wrong in my diet, and decided to change it after I tried multiple other options. I looked at milk first, then decided to change my diet, eliminating all milk consumption. I then found my acne going away again, my allergies almost vanishing, and my thought processing sped up, along with less symptoms of joint dysfunction. Clearly, I had results. I had not even gone off of the school processed and GMO food. I don’t know everything, but I do know that for me, going off of milk solved multiple problems, and I wanted to know why. I now know some of it. Try going off of milk for a few days. You may be surprised, or it might not be the results you wanted. No harm in going off it for a few days…..

    • Neal September 23, 2014, 1:13 pm

      And as for the argument that cow milk was made for baby calves and not for anyone else, well, if you really want to make that argument, then you have to make it about Honey, sugar, salt, and even vegetables and fruits. The ONLY thing that Nature makes for humans, by humans, is breastmilk, and we can’t all eat that indefinitely, though nutritionally it might be good for us.

      Anyway, needless to say I think that the “cow milk is for cow babies” argument is moot. Nature makes all manner of products which we DO ingest and have saved us from extinction. They aren’t necessarily made specifically FOR us, but like a bee that goes wherever it must to find nectar and pollen, we do the same as humans, going to whatever foodsource we must to find sustenance. And also like the pollen and the bee, Nature lets different species and even different kingdoms (plant, animal, mineral) take care of each other’s needs. Please, again, research the osteo-benefits of raw cow milk. REAL cow milk.

      • hhyu October 16, 2014, 10:43 pm

        Oooh, pick me!

        Hi. That’s a strawman. You have erected an argument to knock down for no good reason. Cow’s milk is undeniably meant for calves. Cucumbers are not, however, meant for adult Cucumbers. They are a storage vessel.

        Do you see the difference? The cow is not producing milk as a means of reproducing and surviving harsh weather, it is producing milk as a side effect of being a mother to a hungry calf. Calves with milkless mothers would not survive and therefore, not reproduce. This means it evolved to fill a need. Vegetables, Bees and whatever else are a different ballpark and you know it. You are being intellectually dishonest.

        The author implies there is evidence against health benefits of even raw milk. You do not provide any evidence for the benefits of it, you just said “no thats wrong”.

        • Edward November 1, 2014, 3:07 am

          “The cow is *not producing milk as a means of reproducing and surviving harsh weather*, it is producing milk as a side effect of being…”

          “… Calves with milkless mothers *would not survive and therefore, not reproduce*. This means it evolved to fill a need.”

          No… that’s wrong.

  83. karen September 18, 2014, 2:41 pm

    Hey all! I strongly urge you to actually read the articles Vivian has so kindly provided. Both the 12 year Harvard Nurses article and the hip fracture article do NOT say nor support Vivian’s idea that milk is bad. She is simply cherry picking the results. Here are parts of both discussions:
    “However, the quality of recalled data on dairy products is questionable and so our results for these two exposures should be interpreted with great caution” (hip fracture) and “drinking milk at every meal in adulthood was significantly associated with higher bone density at the midradius, spine and hip” (12 year Harvard nurses). Your opinion is yours, but I highly recommend you to make a CLEAR and INFORMED decision and not believe everything you hear xx

    • Raya September 25, 2014, 11:16 pm

      Hello, I don’t believe everything I read, I go out and I experiment to try things out for myself. I have found that going off of milk cures a lot more problems than were mentioned in the article. You have the chance to try these things out before you go insulting people and calling them uneducated. I try to spread my knowledge

      • karen September 29, 2014, 8:17 pm

        Raya, on what actual logical and falsifiable research are you basing this on. It’s one thing to say it worked for you, it’s a complete other to say that research is wrong because it worked for YOU. Every body is completely different. If you’re basing knowledge on personal experience, I would argue that you’re knowledge is just as bad as Vivians. Maybe take a research course or something and then get back to me

  84. Kpnow August 23, 2014, 1:13 am

    I can’t believe how narrow minded and brain washed people are.

    Cows milk is for baby cows!

    I do understand that like anything bad it is addictive like sugar, i have stopped drinking it as much as possible.. The only thing I struggle is with my one coffee a day.

    My children will not be drinking cows milk ever! And I hope people start to see what it is doing to them!

    • Chris September 24, 2014, 2:19 pm

      Well I sure hope that you’re children won’t be eating cheese or anything dairy based then.

  85. Tess August 20, 2014, 12:03 am

    There are way to many comments for me to read. Take a moment and be open minded instead of being stubborn.
    1. imagine an animal coming up to a human female and sucking on its nipples for milk, weird right! that would be so absurd. why do it to animals?

    COWS produce milk for IT’S BABIES.
    HUMANS produce milk for IT’S BABIES.
    If cows produced milk that was designed for human consumption, well then cows would be giving birth to humans wouldn’t they.

    People totally disregard animals simply because they can’t speak and voice their opinion. Milk isn’t suited for human consumption, although it does contain nutrients that humans do need, ( research now shows its doesnt benefit us) But you shouldn’t be getting it from cows, when you can easily get it from plant based products. Green veggies, oranges, almonds, beans, soy… like this stuff is so much better and you cant go wrong with those things.

    • Kevin November 10, 2014, 4:01 pm

      Not to nitpick, but I have never seen a human go and suckle directly from any animal, so I don’t get that argument. On the other hand, humans have been saving animals using milk not produced by a mother of that species, and without giving birth to them – so, hmmmm.

      Has it ever occurred to you that perhaps humans have the ability to consume items not made specifically for us, because we are supposed to? You go on to list several items that grow naturally and not specifically for people. I guess because people can eat those items and it’s widely accepted, it makes sense to you, such as almonds or perhaps blueberries?

    • morgan August 24, 2014, 10:14 pm

      Soy!????? Nobody eats soy except for brainwashed American Vegetarians and Vegans. Or European of the same ilk. Almond milk? Really, do my eyes deceive me, what is almond milk? It has high sugar levels and its a goitrogenic food. Is there something wrong with water as a beverage, just curious.

      • Richard August 29, 2014, 11:09 pm

        Morgan, you should try just a little bit of research before commenting. The longest lived culture in the world is from Okinawa and they eat tofu and use soya sauce.

        However, I see that most of both almond and soy milk have a bad ingredient that will damage your stomach so I drink green tea, coffee and water with lemon.

        • Raya September 25, 2014, 11:20 pm

          Besides research, try it yourself for just a few days if a teenager to a month if an adult. You might or might not get results. Your results are more valid to you than an internet post.

        • jen September 23, 2014, 10:45 am

          tofu is a fermented soya product and much better for you than the highly processed soya milk. the more heavily you process something the more phitic acid is produced which robs the body of nutrients. i personaly agree that dairy especially in high quantities isnt natural for our body to consume but think in small amounts if organic fresh, and raw if possible, its more natural than soya milk. bean milk? why not just eat the beans? they are super yummy and a whole food…

  86. stan August 19, 2014, 6:16 pm

    Your text saying “unlike humans calves never drink milk again once weaned” …..
    Friend, this is the intention of Nature for all beings that take milk as infants. We then lose the ability to break down milk sugars which has been labeled “lactose intolerance”.
    Only babies are tolerant as it is their source of food. So many humans yet to understand theft and freedom to live and expand consciousness without doing harm. Humans have the capacity to understand the Moral Law yet prefer to live in a lower manner akin to beasts. Unconscious human beasts, as is evident in this place of effects.
    Their are massive profits across the board in many industries from this practice to the benefit of the cruel and the disadvantage of the naive. What surging industry will go quietly into the night when most humans worship money, this is here to stay unless we stop partaking and supporting those who do so.
    Full hospitals and childhood dentistry …. a sure sign things are good hey?
    Stealing milk from a baby of a docile and gentle disposition so we can have a sweet treat, to glory in human culture. Can’t believe this needs to be said in this day and age.
    Order followers abdicate their moral responsibility when they say “we are just doing OUR job”.
    What a cop out

    • Julian November 12, 2014, 1:56 am

      And one would think that humans have the capacity to use proper grammar too!

    • Dohn joe September 4, 2014, 7:10 am

      Shut up.

  87. notz August 18, 2014, 9:55 am

    There’s probably not many who drink more milk than I do, as I purchase 6 gallons at a time just for me. I drink at least a half gallon per day & have for decades. I’m 60 & my bones are just fine, thank you. Take it up with mother nature, I don’t believe you. My cholesterol is a perfect 160.

    You health experts are nuts. One year you say eggs
    are bad, then the next year the opposite, & you’ve gone back & forth on that my entire life. Again, u r nuts.

    Oh, & I eat 2lbs per week of thick pepper bacon too.

    • Bob February 26, 2015, 6:35 pm

      Smokers have lived to 100, does that mean smoking is good for you? The evidence that milk is bad for you stacks up, strange that people get so defensive about it when drinking milk is challenged.

    • Raya September 25, 2014, 11:35 pm

      Not every body is he same. We were all born different, but most people are lactose intolerant, whether or not they realize it. I have had major results from going off of milk that have made me actually feel my age again instead of having to go to extreme physical therapy where I see several 50 year olds doing the exact things I did. Now, I feel fine and like I should for my age. Maybe the age has something to do with the results and this generation is more sensitive to lactose while past generations could easily digest it. I think some research will need to be done on that, because I want to know why my results were different from yours.

    • Anthony Q August 18, 2014, 3:46 pm

      Dear Notz, I´m not happy to say this, but I smoke between 10 and 30 cigarettes of rolling tobacco depending the day, I drink more wine in my meals than I’d like to, more beer in the pub than my wife would really like to, I love eating a nice piece of meat at least once a week and love sweet and all type of biscuits, cakes, etc that we cook at home with non refined organic sugar and flours. My health is perfect and it’s also long time since I was young. Does this mean that this is good for me? One cigarette per day, maybe, one cup of wine per day, of course is good, but one bottle or a full pack per day…too much. Balance is key and you probably should quit drinking so much milk, same as I more than probably should quit smoking so much cigarettes. Cheers

  88. Anthony Q August 18, 2014, 7:56 am

    Hello “g4fmomru”, I read the whole article you recommended (http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/calcium-full-story/) and it is really hard for me to understand why you spread such unkindness towards this article. You are very free to drink as much cow milk as you want, but your freedom shouldn’t drive you to be so harsh. If you read carefully the Harvard article that you suggested, you will notice their concerns about cows milk consumption (“Should you get calcium from milk?” section, or third paragraph of “The bottom line”).
    Please, learn to read objectively and do not take out of context only what you want to read. Same for other people who is disgustingly insulting this article, vegans, non dairy milks, etc. Debate is healthy as long as prevails respect and education among people. If it doesn’t, here is only one name to describe you: “Trolls”, or maybe “Dairy lobby’s mercenaries”. In summary:
    Cow milk might be good if you drink in moderation (for those people with no lactose intolerance), but never following the USDA’s official recommendations of 3 glasses per day, and ideally replacing/balancing some days/weeks cows milk with vegetable milks, or why not, only drinking plant based milks for those who you read carefully scientific articles like the one mentioned above. Cheers.

  89. halley916 August 16, 2014, 6:01 pm

    Personally I think it’s ridiculous to say that milk isn’t good for people. I drank milk all the time when I was younger (can’t now since my mother went on her vegan diet) and I never had a thing wrong with me. I’ve fallen over skateboarding, rollerskating, crushed my hand in the car door, and fallen down the stairs backwards (no joke) And I’ve never even had a sprain.

    • Richard August 29, 2014, 11:17 pm

      Halley, what is ridiculous is your comment. You really think because you never had a sprain that proves milk is good for you????

      The final scientific evidence is likely many decades away given all the money the dairy industry has and the propensity of government to support industry. I can not give you the answer either but the evidence so far is looking bad for milk given it is animal protein which itself might be a problem in the excess consumed in the typical Western Diet. There is so far no scientific evidence of why the nations that consume the most dairy products also have a high number of bone injuries.
      The original study in the 50s supporting milk was very poorly performed but it is what the government still relies on.
      So drink your milk and be happy. Personally, I avoid dairy, eggs, meat, and processed foods to a great extent and consume such things less than once a month.

      • Raya September 25, 2014, 11:39 pm

        What are the results you have had? Has it visibly improved your health? I know it improved mine, but did it yours?

  90. Susan August 13, 2014, 12:26 am

    Hello All,

    Who ever reads this could you please answer these questions?

    Why do Asian not drink milk?
    Why do Asian parents stop their children from drinking milk, when they reach a certain age?
    Why do they not continue in adult age as we do here in this country, and it is not because they are poor!
    Do Asian men get prostate cancer if yes why? and if no why?
    Why do mother’s of little babies cubs ween their babies at a certain age?
    Do you believe that “Mothers” milk is essential for our children and why? and if not why?
    Do you believe we as adults should continue to drink pasteurize milk and why?
    What are the benefits of drinking whole, skim, low-fat and non-fat milk?
    Do you drink Almond milk, and what are the benefits?
    Do you drink Rice milk, and what are the benefits?
    Do you drink Soy milk, and what are the benefits?
    What are the pros and cons of drinking Almond, Rice or Soy milk?
    Tell me why you drink Almond, Rice, or Soy milk?
    Do you drink sweetened or unsweetened and why?

    Please answer underneath the questions with a space, so that I can see your answers.

    Thank you for your help!

    • Rob Milkboy September 10, 2014, 12:04 pm

      Maybe its all the tiger gall bladders, whale meat and rhino tusk that keeps them healthy. I’m not taking the diet advice from a 4′ tall society in general. Now possibly turn to have a glance at the 6′ tall average Nederlander who consumes far more a outs of dairy than the typical “fat , broke-hip” american woman.

      Since these studies were typically a female dominated study which totally ignored the potential of them baking “bone babies” in their own guts, multiple times, in their life…I’ll stick with what I know.

      Sometimes you feel like a nut…

      • U sound like a piece of shit November 2, 2014, 1:20 pm

        Sieg hail u dipshit

  91. Susan August 12, 2014, 11:16 pm

    The controversy is always been about drinking milk, and what benefits it has or not? After having my daughter I have not been able to drink milk. My mother never in her adult life drank milk, but at times she would have sour cream and French bread. She stated, “When I was a child and our family who was going through the “Depression” we at times would only have “Sour Cream and French Bread” to eat” My mother also stated, “I have never liked milk, but when I was a child I had to drink it, when it was available” So, here is one thing you can think about? She had too much calcium, when tested by her doctor, when she was pregnant with me, and she never drank milk in her adult life!

    Next, one has to understand what brand of milk one purchased, and what dairy it comes from, also the amount of vitamins they put into the milk.

    Jacobus C. H., Holick M. F., et. al. (1992) found that, “The fortification of milk with vitamin D has substantial benefits in terms of preventing rickets and osteomalacia, but the potentially toxic side effect of excessive ingestion are equally well established and mandated careful monitoring of Vitamin D fortified foods” In other words drinking milk can be beneficial, but be careful of your consumption.

    Hypervitaminosis D Associated with Drinking Milk, 326, 1173-1177. (1992).
    NEJM.org

  92. Des August 12, 2014, 10:13 pm

    Am I missing something? I’ve been scrolling up and down the website 5 times now but I just can’t find any source/citation for the claim that “Milk depletes the calcium from your bones”.

  93. Silver August 11, 2014, 1:55 pm

    What absolute nonsense among the comments. The amount of stupid is deafeningly high. Instead of reading stupid things on the internet and taking them seriously, I actually asked my doctor about milk and he said it is healthy and good for you. And he is not the only doc I have consulted. I am sorry but the internet is full of quacks and nonsense. You want real answers for serious matters like health and medicine, ask actual practising medical staff instead of watching youtube videos and random food blogs. Bottom line: *MILK IS HEALTHY*, but as with all other food stuffs, overconsumption has side effects. Make sure you buy organic.

    http://goaskalice.columbia.edu/milk-bad-or-good

    • R September 22, 2014, 5:40 pm

      Hi Silver! While I absolutely agree not to just believe whatever you read on the internet, I’d just like to weigh in on your point of “Ask a doc”. During my time working in both hospitals and clinics, people don’t always realize the limited education doctors may have about nutrition. Many of the doctors I’ve worked with have actually complained about this as it would certainly be helpful when discussing nutrition with patients. It’s for those reasons depending on the type of doctor you see they will give conflicting feedback as far as nutrition is concerned. Throughout the course of my Mother’s cancer treatments she got to experience various different doctors takes on nutrition, and it was surprising to see how completely different each doctors views on nutrition were. Working in healthcare I’ve had the pleasure of working with many wonderful nutritionists and many have actually agreed with source being a concern for calcium (as in plant based versus animal). There is absolutely a need for more definitive answers, however many healthcare workers are NOT taught in depth about diet and nutrition so it’s important to find out what the providers background is before just “asking a doctor.” Thankfully the internet can be a wonderful tool for those looking to explore healthier lifestyle choices. Even one of the most recent National Geographic issues (in their 2014 FOOD issue) discussed dairy/meat consumption. If anyone has had the pleasure of visiting the touring Bodyworlds exhibit it was also addressed that many of the healthiest, longest living people tended towards a vegetarian/vegan and Mediterranean style diet. One thing I was a little surprised to find out however was certain athletes who drink milk do not actually drink traditional milk but instead purchase breast milk for it’s health benefits and claim it enhances athletic performance! I don’t think that would be the bulk of people but it certainly was interesting to find out! In closing, I would recommend to anyone to explore nutrition as much as possible as it really is both a fascinating and essential thing to learn about, however be careful who you are considering the best source for your information.

      • R September 22, 2014, 7:02 pm

        Also I should have added depending on what type of doctor you’re asking may also change the response. For example if you’re visiting a doctor due to a specific problem, (let’s say a common one of chronic pain) and there is an inflammatory issue (also common in chronic pain) the doctor may recommend an anti-inflammatory diet which would contain little to no dairy as milk products can cause inflammation. This is why many healthcare providers specializing in nutrition would not agree for a broad statement of “Milk is healthy.” People with reflux/GERD, Celiacs Disease, Cystic Fibrosis, Arthritis, allergy sufferers, etc, etc, etc. are encouraged to restrict or eliminate dairy as it can potentially make conditions worse.

    • Ben August 11, 2014, 10:40 pm

      I think your comment was uninformed, Silver

      1) Cow’s Milk is 3x higher in protein than human milk, is not very digestible in human adults, and contributes virtually no calcium to our nutrition. The U.S. population consumes an inordinate amount of milk and has an equally inordinate prevalence of osteoporosis. What gives?

      2) Green leafy plants offer a digestible, absorbable, bioavailable source of calcium meant for us actual humans. By all means continue drinking bovine milk meant for calves. An important idea to understand is that *calcium content cannot predict calcium absorption or bioavailability.*

      3)In general, a practicing physician does not care about milk, nor did they take any in-depth nutritional coursework in medical school. It is just not part of the general curriculum. Basic Deficiencies, vitamins, nutrients, and associated pathologies and thats about it. They would have to get more information elsewhere.

      Here is a link to an article by a practicing medical organization that specializes in things like this:
      http://www.pcrm.org/health/diets/vsk/vegetarian-starter-kit-calcium

      • Susan August 12, 2014, 11:47 pm

        Hello there,

        As I stated in my first comment to all, my mother and of course family did not like milk. I had breast fed my son, when I had him for about three months or more! Now you state that breast milk (Human Milk) does not have the calcium fortified benefits, well my son is 6’4″ and has all the calcium and more than needed, and who was not a great milk drinker, on-the-other-hand my daughter who could not drink milk when she was a baby drinks a certain amount of milk. As for my self, when I was a child milk was different and good, compare to today’s milk. It did not come in a “carton” instead it came in a bottle. It was wonderful to drink and the feeling of the milk touching my upper lip was great! Not all the time I drank milk, I too, did not like it too much because of the taste, and no, I did not have “Goats Milk” Milk was not a staple in my house as it is today! Everyone drinks milk in an excessive amount! And with all the extra added stuff that they give to the cows, I feel that we should back down on the amount of milk we as humans drink “Cows” milk not “Human” milk! yes it does have some benefits, but too much, is not beneficial!

        • Ash September 4, 2014, 9:47 am

          The point is that human milk is perfectly suited to benefit human babies, as cow milk is perfectly suited to benefit cow babies.
          Our kidneys do not need to deal with triple the protein we need, our bodies need natural human milk for the first months/years.
          Cow milk is amazing FOR BABY COWS, just don’t feed your human baby on it.
          Human milk is amazing for baby humans, but if you tried to nurse a baby cow, it would not get what it needs from you.

  94. thewizeguy August 11, 2014, 8:08 am

    milk acidifies the body pH which in turn triggers a biological correction. You see, calcium is an excellent acid neutralizer and the biggest storage of calcium in the body is – you guessed it… in the bones.
    correct me if i am wrong but dosent milk have a neutral Ph thus the only justification
    is incorrect.

    • Susan August 13, 2014, 12:15 am

      Hello thewizeguy,

      You mentioned about the acid that is in milk is good for you, well not really, and that is why they added Vitamin D because acid that in the milk naturally is not good for humans. You see mothers’ milk has always been beneficial for us, but cows milk, is not as beneficial as one might think! If you do some research in the medical journals you will find that cows milk has misconceptions, and we as humans must become aware of what benefits and not so good benefits it aids.

      Now if “Mothers'” milk was not good for us when we were born, and gives us the nutrients we need, then why do we feed our babies “Mothers'” milk?

      • Rob Milker Man September 10, 2014, 12:11 pm

        Because as hard as I keep trying, the lady next door just refuses to let me milk her. Seriously lady? Just a few pulls!

  95. Michael August 11, 2014, 1:09 am

    I’m a meat-eater and this is what I think:

    1.) You wouldn’t kick over an old lady because it happened to be convenient.
    2.) You wouldn’t kick your dog if it was convenient.
    3.) You wouldn’t kill your dog if it was convenient.
    4.) But you will have farm animals killed because it is convenient (you like the taste of their flesh).

    You cannot be a meat-eater without honestly confronting this problem. If all our nutritional needs can be met through vegetables and a few supplements, we must admit that the only reason to eat meat is because we can use certain animals as means to our ends with impunity.

    Think about it this way: If a superior alien race landed on Earth and started eating humans, what could we say to them to make them stop without making ourselves look like asses?

    • Ryan August 24, 2014, 5:54 pm

      Hey, when they start growing meat in labs I’ll stop eating animals. When they make weed legal, I’ll stop smoking cigarettes. And when they make an electric car that can fly, I’ll stop driving gas-burners.
      The fact of the matter is, if it’s okay for you to eating living feeling things (vegetables) then it’s okay for me to eat living feeling things (animals).
      And personally, I don’t give a hoot if the atmosphere burns and the glaciers melt. They say that necessity is the mother of invention, and when life on Earth necessitates we learn how to terraform and live in space, maybe I’ll be a little closer to that Star Trek life I’ve been hoping for.

    • Mr. Man August 19, 2014, 3:45 pm

      You honestly cant be serious with your post Micheal, can you??

    • Susan August 12, 2014, 11:55 pm

      Hello Michael,
      You know you stated some things here that are really cruel in regards to “KICKING” animals. You stated you are a “Meat” eater! ok fine and dandy, now problem! Now couldn’t you use another method or term to bring it to our attention about how you really feel, instead of using Aliens, or “Kicking animals”? I understand your concern, but really?

      • Rob Meateater September 10, 2014, 12:14 pm

        Bla bla bla you worm saving liberal puke. We have incisors for a reason dumbass and its not to chew cud.

  96. Nancy August 8, 2014, 9:48 pm

    I can’t take anyone’s health advice seriously who promotes the consumption of stevia. Stevia’s oldest use is as a contraceptive

    • Nanashi September 12, 2014, 8:34 am

      Only in the U.S is stevia considered bad for you. This is because it is a viable substitute for refined sugar and the sugar corporations obviously wouldn’t like the sound of that. So there was an ‘anonymous tip’ to the FDA claiming that stevia would indeed be bad for you, and so the FDA took this anonymous tip very seriously and labled it dangerous.

      Now who would benifit the most out of this anonymous tip?

      I’d also add that the South Americans have been using stevia for centuries and the Japanese decades.

      You’ve heard of ‘Pepsi Next’? In countries like Australia and the Netherlands, Pepsi Next is sweetened using stevia and in the U.S artificial sweeteners. Why is this? the American public have been led to believe, by the FDA and their benefactors, that stevia is bad.

      • Steve October 2, 2014, 1:26 pm

        Nanashi

        You need to do some more research, you haven’t a clue what your talking about.

        The claims against Stevia were by the artificial sweetener industry.

        Stevia is allowed by the FDA in the USA

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stevia

  97. Rachal August 7, 2014, 9:04 pm

    Well I’ve been drinking the same milk my whole life, and I’ve never had a cavity or broken bone, and I’ve had my hand slammed in a car door. So I don’t know about you, but that’s good enough for me.

  98. g4fmomru August 7, 2014, 3:03 pm

    I’m gonna need a couple references here. You can’t just write down bullshit you made up and call it a fact. This is one of the most hilarious bullshit articles I have ever read. Stop trying to demonize milk.

    For all of you actually intrested whether milk is bad for you check
    http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/calcium-full-story/

    In summary
    Milk and dairy products are a convenient source of calcium for many people. They are also a good source of protein and are fortified with vitamins D and A.

  99. Tabetha July 31, 2014, 11:51 pm

    Hi, Did anyone in this lengthy discussion who wanted “scientific articles” discussing the harms of pastuerized, homogenized milk ever produce their own articles about the health benefits of milk? I took a long time reading through many, many comments and only noticed commenters requesting articls proving the health consequences of milk but not providing their own research articles that they studied showing that it is helpful. But I’d really like to know!

    My daughter sometime after age two was consistently having very foul smelling gas and diarrhea – practically every day and with every #2. We are hippy-dippy kind of people, we already knew about issues with milk and we didn’t use it as a drink for our kids, but did consume it regularly in the form of butter/cheese or for treats (i.e. ice cream). We went to our mainstream pediatrician and mentioned these symptoms and she said it sounded like a classic case of…lactose intolerance! She suggested we could take her off the milk and see what happens. We didn’t do it right away, but later when my son was having mild/moderate sleep apnea and we were trying to avoid surgery if at all possible, we took both of the kids off of diary.

    Voila! Of course, she is lactose intolerant and my family still wants to have debates with me about milk because they can’t understand a simple food intolerance let alone whether a food is or isn’t okay in general to consume. They apparently don’t trust that I was advised by the pediatrician that her symptoms were classic symptoms of lactose intolerance and that the best way to determine it is to eliminate the food from your diet and see if your symptoms go away.

    I want to add about my son with sleep apnea – after eliminating gluten and dairy and significantly cutting back on sugars along with attention to daytime mouth breathing and reducing stress stimulators (parents arguing, yelling, being too strict) and increasing relaxing and therapeutic activities, we have helped his apnea.

    Again, we also consulted four doctors about this. Two doctors (a heart specialist and a sleep doctor) did not feel surgery to remove adenoids/tonsils was necessary, one doctor (the ENT) thought it was, and our pediatrician is supportive of seeking out alternative measures to such a drastic surgery.

    Again, I want to point out that all of the doctors had varying opinions. And basically, we are able to confidently feel that we are not risking anything by not having a surgery (strain on the heart due to OSA was a big concern that the very learned and elderly heart doctor said simply wouldn’t happen in my son’s case and that we don’t need to worry should we forgo the surgery. This is the very same heart murmur that concerned our pediatrician and made the ENT try to guilt/shame us into getting the surgery to help.

    Anyway, no, doctors don’t know everything. Licensed electricians get electrecuted. Licensed plumbers can have leaks, and licensed mechanics can over charge. Hey, what about those doctors and nurses who leave medical gauze inside a body cavity during a surgery? There is a reason medical malpractice is so high. God bless doctors, you have to love them! But do they know everything? No. I have been told on more than one occassion by doctors themselves that they are going to go look something up on the internet regarding my condition or question. They are just like you and me. Their medical studies are founded on the same information and research that we have access to as “civilians.”

    I am happy to know that in an emergency a doctor could really help (though, sometimes not!), and that for long term health situations, I depend on my own person and God to seek out the correct medical doctors, advice, and education as best as I see fit. Anyone who turns their medical agency completely over to their doctor’s care…well, I don’t know why that person isn’t taking their Nyquil right now so they can get up, eat their Wheaties, and get to their cubicle for the day…

    • Rob Breeder September 10, 2014, 12:17 pm

      More sickly kids from parents with bad genes. STOP REPRODUCING PLEASE. You are dilouting the breeding stock with your sicknesses.

    • Susan August 13, 2014, 12:02 am

      Hello Tabetha,

      You stated, “My daughter sometime after the age of two was consistently having fowl smelling of gas and diarrhea” I have found when I drink or have any dairy products, I have that issue too! I found out from my doctor I am allergic to what ever it is in the dairy products! There is no harm in asking your doctor to check it out?

  100. Karrie Smith July 31, 2014, 6:46 am

    And BESIDES YOURSELF, who are you citing from a medical journal that calcium is depleted from your bones?! Yeah. Thought so.

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