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Debunking The Milk Myth: Why Milk Is Bad For You And Your Bones


Did you know that in Medieval England parents would tie rabbits’ feet around their babies’ necks to ward off illness? Doctors would also spit on wounds because saliva was believed to have healing properties.

Indeed, history is replete with unfounded health beliefs, and to everyone’s detriment, the milk myth is among the most tenacious.

Milk is much more than just a drink; it’s a cultural phenomenon that can be traced back thousands of years. And still today, the milk myth resonates loud and clear: in 2001, the average American child consumed 104 quarts of cow’s milk.

Milk depletes the calcium from your bones

The milk myth has spread around the world based on the flawed belief that this protein and calcium-rich drink is essential to support good overall health and bone health in particular at any age. It is easy to understand that the confusion about milk’s imaginary benefits stems from the fact that it contains calcium – around 300 mg per cup.

But many scientific studies have shown an assortment of detrimental health effects directly linked to milk consumption. And the most surprising link is that not only do we barely absorb the calcium in cow’s milk (especially if pasteurized), but to make matters worse, it actually increases calcium loss from the bones. What an irony this is!

Here’s how it happens. Like all animal protein, milk acidifies the body pH which in turn triggers a biological correction. You see, calcium is an excellent acid neutralizer and the biggest storage of calcium in the body is – you guessed it… in the bones. So the very same calcium that our bones need to stay strong is utilized to neutralize the acidifying effect of milk. Once calcium is pulled out of the bones, it leaves the body via the urine, so that the surprising net result after this is an actual calcium deficit.

Knowing this, you’ll understand why statistics show that countries with the lowest consumption of dairy products also have the lowest fracture incidence in their population (there’s more on this later).

But the sad truth is that most mainstream health practitioners ignore these proven facts. I know it firsthand because when I was diagnosed with osteoporosis, my doctor recommended that I drink lots of milk in addition to taking Fosamax.

Fortunately, I did neither, because I knew that…

Cow’s milk is custom-designed for calves

Thanks to our creative ingenuity and perhaps related to our ancient survival needs, we adopted the dubious habit of drinking another species’ milk. Nobody can dispute that cow’s milk is an excellent food source for calves. Weighing around 100 pounds at birth, a calf typically gains approximately eight times its weight by the time it is weaned. But unlike humans, once calves are weaned, they never drink milk again. And the same applies to every mammalian species on this planet.

Also, each mammalian species has its own “designer” milk, and cow’s milk is no exception. For example, cow’s milk contains on average three times the amount of protein than human milk which creates metabolic disturbances in humans that have detrimental bone health consequences.

It’s important to bear in mind that mother’s milk is excellent nourishment for human babies, but its composition is very different from cow’s milk.

Scientific studies show that milk increases fracture risk

Many scientific studies contradict the conventional wisdom that milk and dairy consumption help reduce osteoporotic fractures. Surprisingly, studies demonstrating that milk and dairy products actually fail to protect bones from fractures outnumber studies that prove otherwise. Even drinking milk from a young age does not protect against future fracture risk but actually increases it. Shattering the “savings account” calcium theory, Cumming and Klineberg report their study findings as follows:

“Consumption of dairy products, particularly at age 20 years, was associated with an increased risk of hip fracture in old age. (“Case-Control Study of Risk Factors for Hip Fractures in the Elderly”. American Journal of Epidemiology. Vol. 139, No. 5, 1994).

And the 12 year long Harvard Nurses’ Health Study found that those who consumed the most calcium from dairy foods broke more bones than those who rarely drank milk. This is a broad study based on 77,761 women aged 34 through 59 years of age.

In the authors’ own words:

“These data do not support the hypothesis that higher consumption of milk or other food sources of calcium by adult women protects against hip or forearm fractures.” (Source: Feskanich D, Willett WC, Stampfer MJ, Colditz GA. Milk, dietary calcium, and bone fractures in women: a 12-year prospective study. American Journal of Public Health. 1997).

Shocking statistics ignored by mainstream medicine

In the Save Our Bones Program one of the topics I discuss is the complete disregard of scientific evidence that discredits milk and dairy products as the best source of calcium.

One exception is Amy Lanou Ph.D., nutrition director for the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine in Washington, D.C., who states that:

“The countries with the highest rates of osteoporosis are the ones where people drink the most milk and have the most calcium in their diets. The connection between calcium consumption and bone health is actually very weak, and the connection between dairy consumption and bone health is almost nonexistent.”

Surprised? You shouldn’t be, because as I mentioned earlier in this article…

Milk is an acidifying animal protein

Like any other animal derived protein-rich food, milk has a positive potential renal acid load (PRAL) which triggers a protective biological reaction to neutralize all the damaging acidic protein before it reaches the kidneys.

The body is designed for survival, so it sacrifices bone density to protect the kidneys and urinary tract because the latter are essential to survival. And the most readily available source of acid neutralizer is in the bones. So even though milk contains calcium, it ends up sapping your bones of that crucial mineral. But that’s not all because…

Today’s milk is a processed food

Until the end of the 19th century in Europe and the beginning of the 20th century in the US, milk was consumed unpasteurized or raw. Later on, homogenization became the industry’s standard. These processes further alter milk’s chemistry and actually increase its detrimental acidifying effects.

Raw milk advocates claim that if cow’s milk is left “as is” it is a healthy and wholesome drink. It is true that raw milk is less acidifying than processed milk and that pasteurization and homogenization may cause a long list of digestive and other health problems, but I still don’t recommend drinking any kind of cow’s milk.

Nowadays, milking cows are given antibiotics and most are also injected with a genetically engineered form of bovine growth hormone (rBGH). A man-made or synthetic hormone used to artificially increase milk production, rBGH also increases blood levels of the insulin-growth factor 1 (IGF-1) in those who drink it. And higher levels of IGF-1 are linked to several cancers.

This should not be ignored, especially in view of recent information by Samuel Epstein, MD, Professor of Environmental Medicine at the University of Illinois School of Public Health, and Chairman of the Cancer Prevention Coalition. In an article titled “Monsanto’s Hormonal Milk Poses Serious Risks of Breast Cancer, Besides Other Cancers” (, June 21, 1998) Dr. Epstein concludes that:

“Drinking rBGH milk would thus be expected to significantly increase IGF-1 blood levels and consequently to increase risks of developing breast cancer and promoting its invasiveness.”

Even though organic milk is from cows that are not given antibiotics or rBHG, if you truly care about your bone health and your overall health, you should…

Avoid drinking cow’s milk

As I explain in the Save Our Bones Program and contrary to mainstream recommendations, drinking milk and eating lots of dairy products are not the answer to reversing osteoporosis. And while in the Save Our Bones Program no food is completely off limits, I strongly recommend that you explore the different milk substitute options that I will list for you here.

But first, I’d like to clarify that unsweetened fermented or cultured dairy products such as yogurt, kefir, and sour cream are acid neutral. Yogurt in particular is chock-full of beneficial qualities. As is the case with milk, organic yogurt does not have rBGH, but even several of the most well-known yogurt brands have stopped using the bovine growth hormone (rBGH). You should call your favorite yogurt company to confirm. One more clarification: when I say unsweetened I mean without sugar or any artificial sweetener. However, you can add honey or stevia, a zero calorie plant-derived sweetener that is delicious and alkalizing as well. I like to carry around stevia packets in my purse so that I’m always able to sweeten food or drinks when I’m on the go.

The best milk substitutes

My favorite milk substitute is unsweetened almond milk, not only because it is alkalizing (as almonds are), but also because it’s delicious and tastes very similar to milk. I even cook with it!

If almond milk is hard to get, you can also try rice or soy milk. I strongly suggest consuming only organic soy milk to insure it’s not made with genetically modified soy. There is also some controversy about unfermented soy products, so try to use it in moderation.

What Else Haven’t They Told You?

What else have you been told about bone health by your doctor or other “experts” that is flat out wrong? What other “facts” (like drinking milk does a body good) are keeping you from optimal health?

Myths like these are a big reason I created the Save Our Bones Program. To give you the straight scoop on how to deal with osteoporosis the natural way.

I can help you take control of your future.

Learn more about the Save Our Bones Program here →

And remember, if you ever hear someone ask “Got milk?” smile and think to yourself “No, because I know better!”

And as always, I’d love to hear your thoughts. Share them with me and the rest of our community by leaving a comment below.

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  1. Gilberto April 24, 2014, 12:42 pm

    Hi my questions in regard to the yogurt,.. and would if have any negative effects,. I make it here,. of raw caw milk,.. we heat it up to almost building point,.. then we add kefir and alout to sit till ready,.. is there still calcium even after heated,.. would you call it a posetive and a negative for it coming from a caw milk,.. i like to have them prity frequently at times,.. full of fruits,..:) thank you,.. i will love your comment,. thank you,..

  2. Kira April 23, 2014, 9:35 pm

    Yes, yes!! My mom told me that today whenever she got home from church (’cause I was staying home to do my homework). And she said that it’s full of pus and a bit of blood and now, I’m absolutely disgusted. I can’t even finish my cereal. Is coconut milk good? I only use it topically and my mom does for cooking, but I wonder if it would taste good…

  3. us air conditioning and heating April 23, 2014, 4:27 pm

    Central air conditioners ought to be professionally inspected and adjusted ahead of the beginning of every single cooling season.

  4. Robert April 22, 2014, 3:30 pm

    It seems that about every five years or so, Doctors/Scientists change their position on what is good or bad for us. First eggs were good then they were bad, now they are good again, same with salt, butter, cholesterol numbers etc, just to name a few. You people have no real clue what the hell you are doing, You spend a hundred thousand dollars on an education and then release some “brilliant” new theory that milk is bad for you. Really? You Doctors/Scientists have lost nearly all trust and credibility in my book. I think I will just stick to the old fashioned rule of eating a good healthy balanced diet in moderation, get a good night’s sleep, and plenty of exercise because any new information you have on what may be good or bad for me is garbage.

  5. Alexandria April 20, 2014, 10:51 pm

    We’re not supposed to be able to drink cow’s milk. Our ancient relatives didn’t. It’s actually a fairly new concept (not new like last year, but the last like hundred years). This is why there are so many people who are lactose intolerant, we genetically aren’t designed to drink milk from any animal but our mother’s (but yes sometimes lactose intolerant babies can’t drink their mother’s milk).

  6. DavidMD April 18, 2014, 7:20 pm

    This whole acid theory has been debunked for years now, this is just a blog posting from a Vegan who is against any animal foods. I drink not just Raw Milk, but also Raw Milk colostrum from our cows, and all of my labs come back at the optimal levels.

    • SaintCynicism April 21, 2014, 1:39 pm

      Not just a vegan who is against any animal foods, but a vegan who seems to have a very limited understanding of osteoporosis to begin with. Just take a look at the “About” page.

      Supposedly, after being diagnosed, she had to lament whether or not the horrible disease would prevent her for being there for her sons.

      Problem: Osteoporosis? Not exactly something that leaves you bedridden. Nor is the only treatment medication and milk. One of the effective ways of boosting your bone density involves certain types of exercise (endurance, load bearing, etc.), which naturally start boosting your bone density. There’s extremely limited evidence that changing your diet can help (beyond cutting back on alcohol and tobacco). For fuck’s sake, it seems to be a case of “for the first few years, play it safer and do these things, and then just keep an eye on it from then on.” There’s a slightly increased mortality rate due to complications from fractures, but only a VERY slight one.

      To hear her tell it though, it’s the worst thing since cancer. Sure, it sucks, but it’s not going to end your life as you know it. And I don’t think this lunacy is any sort of coincidence, considering she’s also trying to sell a book in the process. The more likely scenario here is that she wanted to resort to good ol’ scare tactics and misinformation just to help her bottom line.

  7. tony hauptman April 17, 2014, 5:36 pm

    pasteurized milk is as bad as meat in general because of all the chemicals(hormones) in it, pasteurization takes away most benefits from milk. that is not to say to avoid milk altogether, but it depends on people who are looking for a non-processed or non animal product.

  8. Anonymous April 13, 2014, 5:20 am


    How about everyone shuts the fuck up and gather together to attack the PEOPLE IN CHARGE of and who create these “nutritional facts” and tell them to tell the rest of the world the TRUTH instead of attacking each other?

    No one here is an idiot or stupid. We all have our opinions and facts; we are all right, and we are all wrong.

    Let’s face it. Some people are allergic to certain foods and will die if they eat it. At the same time, other people can eat the same foods that their “allergenic siblings” do their whole lives and still live healthily.


    Hell, drinking too much water can kill you. Too much of anything can kill you.

    As long as you consume enough, and not more than enough of milk, you’ll be fine.


    Stop putting people down for their personal opinion. Everyone is different with different morals and beliefs; that does not make them wrong.

    • Marios April 19, 2014, 6:31 am

      And i’ll keep putinng down Nazis what ;ever. The most anithical is to know and do nothing about than do it…

    • Marios April 19, 2014, 6:29 am

      Totaly wrong…. Nazism, is a belief; that make them wrong.

    • Best comment! April 13, 2014, 5:31 am

      Best comment here. Unbiased and even though not very informational, still hits the nail on the head and puts that nail in the coffin! Good read!

      PS: Humans should drink human breast milk. All other animals should drink their respective species milk, or other source of motherly nutrients.

      • Hans April 13, 2014, 6:41 am

        I have (almost) always drunk milk. Cow’s milk, and lots of it. Nearly all of it pasteurized and (unfortunately) homogenized.

        I have ridden skateboards a lot (and crashed). Bicycles a lot (and crashed). Motorcycles (and crashed). Skied on snow, surfed in big waves and flown hanggliders (and crashed some)…

        (I do fly my own plane – which I have never crashed…)

        As a paratrooper I jumped out of planes and in the military in general went through quite a bit of physically “demanding” activity.

        And I have yet to break a bone… (during all my dangerous milk drinking and rambunctious activities).

        I’m in my 50′s now and drinking a quart (or two) of organic un-homogenized milk (with extra cream) daily.

        After going back to milk and (red) meat, and dumping all grains and sugar and fake “milks”, I dropped whatever pesky weight was still around my middle and now weigh perilously close to my high school weight (although I’m taller…)

        Speaking of fake “milks” I was never sicker, more tired, or fatter than the crappy span of years I was stupidly drinking soy milk. I’ll never get those years back. Never.

        I do have a question:

        I am clearly lactose “tolerant”. So my question is…Why? Could it be because it’s genetic? In my DNA? Because many thousands of years ago my ancestors discovered the evolutionary benefit of dairy and adapted so fully and successfully to it that it is now coded in my own genes? That would mean drinking cow’s milk is genetically “normal” for me. And not drinking it would be abnormal. Ah! Eureka!

        • Anonymous April 13, 2014, 9:45 am

          I want to say you are lucky, but that might not be the case. You’re correct about our human evolution and DNA adaptation to milk and other various parts of life. Although I’m not certain that is a fact, and I won’t say it is fact, it does play a major part in our lives, and it has proven itself to humans that we can adapt to something and become what you would call “immune.” However, like annual flu shots, our immunities will most likely fail, not because we lose immunity, but because, say for example, milk will modify itself to go around our immunity, the same way the flu and other viruses do. I’m not saying milk will naturally do this, or will do it at all, but what I call “nutritional modifiers” will probably do everything in their power to change our “god given pure nutrients and foods.” Again, I’m not saying they will, but history has shown that people do this to our natural food source and mineral substances.

  9. Kevin April 7, 2014, 9:32 pm

    Usually when you use a scientific study to try and prove something you cite that study so that the people reading your work have access to the raw data. Is there some reason that you don’t want us to read this vast accumulation of data that suggests milk is bad? Until you cite the sources I’m going to assume that you made all that “science” up.

  10. Common Sense April 6, 2014, 3:22 pm

    Scientific research has proven that we ARE NOT COWS therefore we should NOT drink cows milk.

    • raul April 16, 2014, 8:21 am

      Scientific research has proven that we are not earth, therefore we should not eat seeds, nuts, fruits…

      • D April 24, 2014, 9:22 pm

        Ok dumb ass so what do we eat each other -.- . We are not cows fucktard

  11. Tyler April 5, 2014, 10:00 pm

    Just would like to point out something. I’m in a Current Events class, and we quickly went over bias. And one of them was motivation. This person is trying to sell a book. Keep this in mind.

  12. Nichole April 2, 2014, 11:18 am

    Please read perhaps the most important book written to date about our future survival as a species, Dr. Oppenlander’s Food Choice and Sustainability–and then inspire others to do the same.

  13. Adi March 31, 2014, 2:39 am

    The articles, which we may see, in the coming future:

    Don’t drink WATER. It contains solar radiation. (If that kills microorganisms in water, imagine what it will do to us)
    Don’t eat any food (for the exact same reason).
    Don’t go out in sun. It causes cancer.
    Don’t exercise. It causes production of lactic acid, which is very bad for bones.
    Don’t use electricity. Its magnetic field affects the hemoglobin in our RBCs.
    Don’t wear clothes. Or you will get skin disease.
    Don’t breathe. Or you will have cancer from the smoke of automobiles/factories.
    Don’t live. Or you will die.

    I am most certain no matter how poisonous the bovine milk may be for us, it is of much lesser concern than the polluted environment we are living in today.

  14. science March 30, 2014, 6:08 pm

    Please try and keep your morale opinions separate from spreading WRONG SCIENCE in public places. Bicarbonate buffers acidic changes in the blood not Calcium. So when the article says ”And the most readily available source of acid neutralizer is in the bones” – THIS IS JUST PLAIN WRONG. Bicarbonate levels can be increased both by the kidneys and the respiratory system – nothing to do with the bones.

    99% of the calcium that is filtered by the kidneys is also reabsorbed by the kidneys, and the body can up-regulate absorption to 100% if it needs to. I studied medicine at the University of Cambridge, don’t try and brainwash me (or anyone else) with bullshit science. The paper you have quoted is very shady to say the least – not exactly unbiased! Sure, don’t drink milk yourself, but don’t convince others to do the same based on lies.

    • Karen April 6, 2014, 1:50 am

      THANK YOU! I am so tired of reading about “alkalizing” and “acidic” foods. The body keeps its pH at a very specific level and it has nothing to do with food. Stomach acid is much more acidic than any foods we eat.

    • Lorraine April 5, 2014, 7:48 pm

      Cows milk has always been made for calves not humans. A calf’s brain is different from a human. Human milk is made for humans. I don’t think that anyone should drink milk bought from a shop. Too processed. High heat would severely affect the nutrients in the milk. You should try to keep away from processed food if possible.

      • Vicente April 7, 2014, 10:43 pm

        The same beta-casein proteins that are in cow’s milk are also found in human milk.

        • Simone April 14, 2014, 4:32 pm

          That’s true, but there are so many other things in cows milk that aren’t in humans milk.

          • Cheryl April 24, 2014, 7:01 am

            Nice Simone

  15. Richnard Tasey March 30, 2014, 3:57 pm

    Do peaple know what plaque is,so what is it, pasterized milk is use less there are no amino, no magniseum period, there is not other mamal on earth.Eight year to 10 year eight year’ old’s have low bone density becase they think the milk is helping bone getting to bone, when it’s not ,sen top line again

    • Kelly April 11, 2014, 7:51 pm

      Your point would be more convincing if you could spell better than a 2nd grader.

  16. Mary March 30, 2014, 2:41 am

    I’m guessing that most of you that are commenting on this have never stepped foot on a dairy farm, or have had the proper information of what milk can do for your body. Milk is the easiest way for you to get the calcium and eight other essential nutrients your whole body needs in order to nourish it, not just your bones. And yes, studies have shown that consuming dairy products at a young age has helped a person to develop a healthy lifestyle drinking milk, and has proven to reduce the risk of Osteoporosis. I agree with getting the calcium your body needs, but ever know of a child that has severely broken a bone in their body? Lack of calcium intake can have a huge role in that, but you aren’t going to force a child to take calcium pills when you can give then a glass of milk and make sure they are getting their three a day. I just believe that this article has a poor understanding of what milk does for you and your body.

    • Cheryl April 24, 2014, 7:03 am

      Oh dear Mary, go back to bed.

    • victor March 31, 2014, 4:46 am

      Of course, one piece of fiction is that calcium can only be obtained from dairy products or calcium pills. Calcium is not limited to dairy! It is plentiful in a lot of vegetables, meat and seafood. Vegans are even able to get enough, and they eat no dairy at all! Just get get the kids off the processed junk foods and onto real foods and their nutritional intake will improve.

    • richard tansey March 30, 2014, 4:29 pm


      • erm April 14, 2014, 8:33 pm

        What a load of utter tosh! Open up any physiology and pathology book – you will find exactly what makes up arterial plaques, how they form and why.

        Whoever wrote this ridiculous post needs to learn the process of reviewing and critiquing scientific studies, before using them to support their theory. And this whole nonsense of “acidifying foods”??? If your body’s pH changed even just a little bit, you would die. Very quickly. Our physiology revolver around maintaining homeostasis and manages it pretty well!

      • Kevin April 7, 2014, 9:39 pm

        Typing in all caps doesn’t help to prove your crazy nonsense point. It just makes you look like an asshole.

        • Dylan Flaig April 9, 2014, 8:35 pm

          Not really seeing as his comment caught my attention before any of yours, not to mention he’s just trying to make people aware of a potentially bad thing, there’s nothing about that that makes him an asshole.

  17. Shellyvegan Norton March 27, 2014, 11:23 pm

    Excellent article. Me and my entire family do not consume animal secretions. This has been most beneficial to our health. We rarely even get the sniffles. Humans are not meant to consume another animals mammary fluids, especially from a bovine, which is engineered with enough hormones to grow a 400 lb calf. We find it optimally healthy to get our calcium from greens, but enjoy plant based milks also. Ethically, we are happy with our decision, as we are not only respecting our own bodies but also respecting those of other sentient beings. Baby calves should not have to die, so humans can greedily consume what doesn’t belong to them.

    • erm April 14, 2014, 8:37 pm

      I consume bovine mammary gland excretions, animal muscle fibre and wear animal skin on my feet. I too rarely get sniffles. And so do my children … Does that make me right?

    • Adey April 2, 2014, 11:09 pm

      Should zebra die so lions can eat? Should mice die so eagles can eat?

      Should seals die so killer whales can eat? Should fish die so bears can eat?

      All through nature we see carnivorous behaviour from animals who don’t have the benefit of internet access to learn how bad their shocking murderous ways are.

      Pre-historic man naturally hunted and ate animals long before they had developed the intelligence to think about what they were doing. I appreciate that mass animal production and farming is different to good old fashioned hunting, but that is purely a matter of evolution.

      So, feel free to live how you like, but don’t try and suggest that the way other people live is anything other than what nature intended.

      • Maiku April 4, 2014, 11:01 pm


  18. Kelly March 27, 2014, 10:59 am

    The dairy industry has never given anyone scientific proof of HOW exactly milk is good for your bones. You know why not? Because there doesn’t exist any since milk is NOT good for the bones. Don’t believe everything commercials tell you! Cows’ milk isn’t just linked to osteoporosis but also to cancer and heart attacks. But no, the stupid ones among us keep consuming it and that’s why I do not feel sorry for most people with cancer or heart attacks; they have brought this on themselves.

    • Cody March 27, 2014, 5:37 pm

      About the cancer, that’s pretty much a lost cause. You can’t really avoid things that can cause cancer. In the end, all you can do is make sure you get enough fiber, minerals, and vitamins. Just about everything in our daily lives can cause cancer. A lot of times, it’s not even your own choice to be exposed to it or not.

  19. Cody March 27, 2014, 1:29 am

    Since it’s late, and I’m tired, I’ll put this simply.

    This article may be true, however, every person is different. Therefore, milk may effect some people less while it effects others more. Even though you don’t see immediate, or drastic consequences doesn’t mean they’re not occurring. By all means, drink milk for the rest of your life. But for those that develop bone conditions should look into the effects of milk on their body. If milk is ruled out, then it must be something else.
    Another possibility is that those that drink lots of milk may eat something to counter the loss of calcium, thus hiding the effect of milk. Everyone here should do research on this topic. Just try not to be biased.

    • Kelly March 27, 2014, 11:04 am

      Smoking also affects one more than the other. That doesn’t make smoking healthy. Same for dairy. Both are poison.

      • Adey April 2, 2014, 11:11 pm

        You are suggesting that drinking milk is equally as bad for us as smoking?

        Are you out of your mind?

      • Cody March 27, 2014, 5:08 pm

        I never said it was healthy. In fact, I said it wasn’t and I was attacking the comments of those claiming nothing happened to them from drinking milk.

  20. Yuki March 25, 2014, 2:46 pm

    My grandfather never drank milk and never broke a bone in his body. My uncle who drinks milk every day is also healthy and never broke a bone… seems like everything is going to kill us, maybe we should all just kill ourselves.

    • Kelly March 27, 2014, 11:05 am

      Some smokers get old and others don’t. Doesn’t make smoking healthy. Same argument.

      • rick March 29, 2014, 12:53 am

        Same argument? So in other words…some people drink milk and have bad bones, while others drink milk and have good bones. Doesnt make milk unhealthy.
        Faulty logic doesnt correct itself with repetition.

  21. MD March 23, 2014, 9:28 pm

    As a pregnant woman I am reluctant to reinvent the wheel after my mom and hers drank milk, and I’m surprised that ppl are willing to advocate for such radical changes with such limited knowledge. The acidic theory may be true but an oversimplification of how our body reaps it’s benefits of food.

  22. Cory D-S March 23, 2014, 1:57 pm

    This is BS. I drink almost a gallon of milk a week and I am extremely healthy. I do many sports and I am a huge adrenilene junky and I have only broken two bones and that was when I was 4 and 7. So all of you should not be afraid to drink milk. Milk rocks.

    • Mart B. March 27, 2014, 11:06 am

      I’ll join your burial once you die of cancer and heart attacks because of the damage animal products did to your body on the long run. May you rest in peace.

      • Kay April 2, 2014, 11:30 pm

        Are you mentally retarded or just a troll? Do you realize that this gentleman probably exercises much more than you do and is therefore probably *less* likely than you to die of either of those things. Maybe people should move their bodies more rather than moan on and on about drinking milk.

  23. ecem March 18, 2014, 3:11 pm

    I have been consuming a lot of milk for 4 years and at this time my nippers have been broken. even I didnt realize why they were broken. before I start to consume so much milk I didn’t use to have a problem like this. I thought that it may be related with milk after reading this article and I decided to avoid milk and observe my teeth.

  24. Toni March 13, 2014, 5:56 pm

    Let everybody believe what there want. My grandfather hat osteoporosis. His doc told him to stope drinking milk and take calcium from green source. Some how it got so much better over the year and he is still doing long walks that he was not able to do in his 50s, i know now prove for disbelievers. How could it by. Just drink you milk i will live happy and long

    • Toni is stupid March 16, 2014, 4:54 pm

      Your comment is not credible. Look at all your spelling and grammar mistakes. Go back to school.

      • You are an a**hole March 22, 2014, 10:21 pm

        What the heck is wrong with you? Do you think putting someone down for how they choose to type in an INFORMAL chat area makes you any better? Would you do this to someone in person? You are a cynical, stuck up, jerk. Do you have any knowledgeable input other than to put people down? Toni actually had something useful to input, that goes along with the article, that actually uses credible sources. Your comment was mean, useless, and rude. It makes you look like an uneducated, poorly mannered fuck.

        • Hipocrit March 26, 2014, 3:58 pm

          You are a fucking hipocrit, your comment has nothing to do with the article EITHER. AND it’s very rude too.

          • It was defense March 27, 2014, 1:09 am

            The person you’re calling a hypocrite had every right to say what he/she did. You offended a person, and this ‘hypocrite’ defended that person.
            Anyway. Back to the topic. No need to continue this any further.

            P.S. Check your spelling.

  25. fasih March 13, 2014, 5:46 am

    cow milk is presious gift of the God don’t believe on this stupid articles

    • Yuki March 25, 2014, 2:42 pm

      You are one precious piece of shit from God.

    • fasih is a retard March 16, 2014, 4:56 pm

      What do you expect to accomplish with that terrible spelling and grammar. You tell people not to believe this article yet you can’t even spell precious. Go back to school you piece of shit

    • Marilyn March 16, 2014, 2:22 pm

      Cows milk is for calves. When they are weaned they no longer need it. Breast milk is for babies and when they are weaned, they no longer need it.

      • Marilyn March 16, 2014, 2:27 pm

        I forgot to add that all animal products – meat and dairy are acidic and acid takes the calcium from the bones eventually causing osteoporosis.

        • Kay April 2, 2014, 11:35 pm

          Will you please stop reiterating that bullshit fact? Animal products are nowhere near as bad as some people think they are. How would you react if I told you that tribes in the north whom eat only animal products have some of the lowest rates of cancer and heart disease.

        • John March 22, 2014, 9:04 am

          Grass-fed dairy is not acidic in the body

  26. Billy March 13, 2014, 5:12 am

    I like milk because it tastes good.
    Although after having milk i feel a boost of energy.
    Such a stupid article.

    • Mart B. March 27, 2014, 11:08 am

      It’s all in your head, Billy. Just like drug addicts

    • dodlaa March 24, 2014, 6:54 am

      Your right…..

    • So stupid Billy March 16, 2014, 4:59 pm

      So if something tastes good, that must mean its good for me. If something gives me a boost of energy, then that means its good for me. Ok retard. First of all, taste is a preference. Second, it is the calories that are giving you the energy, as with all food that has calories. Seems like you didn’t even read the whole article. Keep drinking that expensive milk. I hope your body thanks you later when you rot

      • so much more stupid billy March 22, 2014, 1:15 pm

        Why dont you shut your fucking mouth, not anyone on this milk producing earth gives a shit about what think or claim to know. I will drink a gallon of milk and then take a shit on your kitchen floor. What do you think about that?

        • Cody March 27, 2014, 1:16 am

          I’m not the person who commented before, but I think you should calm down, and act mature. This article is backed by science, and looking at this with an un-biased perspective, it seems as though this is correct. Cows milk is ‘cows’ milk. Not human milk. However, I’m going to continue to drink milk, since it’s already a part of my diet.

          P.S. Consuming large amounts of milk for years has shown to cause lactose intolerance in some individuals. It also ‘may’ be the cause of some other conditions. However, they’re temporary, and it usually happens to people 40+. Just keep in mind that something that’s believed to be healthy one day can be a killer the next. One example: cigarettes.

  27. Inoculum March 11, 2014, 9:29 am

    “Here’s how it happens. Like all animal protein, milk acidifies the body pH which in turn triggers a biological correction. You see, calcium is an excellent acid neutralizer and the biggest storage of calcium in the body is – you guessed it… in the bones”

    Dear Miss Goldschmidt,
    your knowledge in biology seems to be poor when you claim that Ca2+ (calcium) is used to buffer the body pH value. Ca2+ changes due to slight pH-changes are more slight byproduct, since the solubility of calcium changes with dropping pH-values. This effect can be observed in every flowstone cave. But since even slight changes in the pH-value result in a major health risk this effect shouldn’t be so drastic.

    If you really whant to learn about our bodies pH management read this:

  28. Mason Slaughter March 10, 2014, 11:21 am

    Im glad people are out there trying to expose the truth, eevrything about what we are told about nutrition is a lie. Does it not concern you that the organization devoted to Agriculture, dairy and meat is the one who is deciding what is healthy? They guile millions of people into eating horrible diets in order to line their pockets. This isnt a conspiracy, its been proven on countless occasions.

    Now, small thing I should note, while cultured dairy has a neutral ph and isnt bad for your bones, over 83% of the protein in dairy is cacein, a protein that has been proven time and time again to GREATLY increase your risk of several different cancers.
    The thing about dairy is that if you are gling to choose what you want..heart disease (from whole milk) or cancer (from skim milk)

    • Inoculum March 11, 2014, 10:09 am

      Did you forget that casein is also present in mother’s milk?
      So since million of years we feed our youngest with carcinogenic stuff??
      Evolution and me say: No we don’t

      • enough March 18, 2014, 10:45 am

        We dont drink breast milk after age 2 really and cows milk has 80% casein while humans milk has about 40%.. no one is saying dont drink it ever…. just not as much as we’re told to by ever government run health organization.

  29. Adam March 7, 2014, 2:24 pm

    Soy milk is bad too…

  30. Jeswin Joseph March 4, 2014, 12:27 pm

    oh please..!! if you are a pure vegan or if you hate the taste of milk, just say that in a line.. saves the time spend reading this pointless and baseless article of “calcium depletion” and “fracture statistics”.

    • Jane March 7, 2014, 6:02 am

      Save us the time with wasting our lives by reading your comment. Idiot.

      • Kay April 2, 2014, 11:37 pm

        I’m taking a dump reading your comment and feel like I just wasted time reading your comment, too ;(

  31. Katie March 3, 2014, 8:34 pm

    Read the china study by , Dr. T. Colin Campbell. A doctor who spent 20 + years studying exactly this is enough proof for me.

    Or watch forks over knives for a few facts on this matter.

  32. Lloyd March 1, 2014, 9:43 pm

    The reason humans are the only ones to keep drinking milk (and from another species) is because we have a more develop brain and 4 figures with opposing thumb. WE CAN MILK COWS and the other species cannot. You think the other species stop drinking milk after infancy or not from other species because it is bad for them? How silly. Put a bold of cow’s milk in front of your cat, dog, bear or lion and see what they do with it. They will lick the bowl clean.

    We drink cow’s milk and then we might just eat the cow. On top of that, we will eat a lot of the foods the cow will eat. One of the reasons the human species has excelled on this planet is we are the most diversified in what we can eat giving us the greatest chance of survival in the most diverse places. Sources of nutrients are not custom designed for just one species at all which is why we have things called food chains. If grows or moves on this planet, you will probably find someone somewhere who will eat it. Our species has adapted to consume a huge array of foods from both animal and plant sources. Milk just happens to be one of those sources. The key is to keep our food sources in balance and moderation.

    • Cody March 27, 2014, 1:19 am

      Cats aren’t supposed to drink cow’s milk. it makes them sick. They will do it, just as a rat will eat rat poison. Rethink your logic.

    • Scott March 10, 2014, 11:31 am


      Did you read the article above?! There is an enormous amount of modern, scientific evidence that proves milk is bad. What don’t you understand? The acidic effect milk causes forces our body to produce stomach acid in excess. The only way our body neutralizes the acid is through extracting calcium from our bones. If you want weak bones…keep eating dairy. It’s no wonder America is at record obese rates…we eat the most processed calories in the world, milk and cheese being among them. I call this junk…SLUDGE.


      • Inoculum March 11, 2014, 9:26 am

        An this claim is total scientific nonsense

    • Calimero March 4, 2014, 3:09 am

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  33. Dollars March 1, 2014, 8:22 am

    Shizuo Heiwajima begs to differ…

  34. Wade February 20, 2014, 3:15 pm

    Just so you know, the resources and studies quoted in this article were not read in full. It looks to me like she just read the abstract, otherwise she might have thought twice. The article linking milk consumption to increased fracture rate went on to say, “Some of the results of this study were unanticipated and may be due to chance or bias.” Therefore making the study itself unreliable. Milk is a healthy resource. Yes, cows’ milk is tailored for cows, but that increased protein is good for the human body, too.

    • Mason Slaughter March 10, 2014, 11:23 am

      No its not, animal protein is extremely detrimental to our bodys, please I urge you to take of the blindfold and hear me out, you need to read the China Study. Everything you think you know about nutrition is disproven. Dairy protein severely increases your risk of amultitude of cancers

      • Jason April 11, 2014, 7:59 pm

        Ohmygawd. The “China Study”, which by the way, wasn’t a study, has been so thoroughly discredited, it’s ridiculous. Just as one example out of many, check out Joseph DeMarinis’ review on Amazon, for just some of the dozens of flaws in that book.

  35. Cicobuff February 19, 2014, 7:46 pm

    OK. Calcium is a mineral, where does minerals come from?… the ground. Cows get there calcium from grass, wheat, soy and corn. Wake up people, stop filtering your minerals through another animal. Try eating some greens! there is more beneficial calcium in greens and also the dietary fiber required. If you are an adult and you still drink milk, well… you need to change your diaper or nappy you big baby lol!

    • Kay April 2, 2014, 11:41 pm

      Guess I should go change my diaper then because it turns out I am a baby. Yum milk!

      Anyway, maybe you should read more about anti nutrients because they are present in vegetables and legumes with a high calcium content. Have fun!

  36. Gator February 18, 2014, 1:15 pm

    There’s a sucker born every minute.

    • Karen February 25, 2014, 8:39 am

      Actually there is more value in cats milk then cow milk.. People believe anything but if you do your research you will find that cows milk is bad for you more then it is good.. Also take an elephant and a giraffe and they only nurse their young as babies. Adult animals do not drink it at all and they are huge animals …hmmm think about it..

  37. Eli February 14, 2014, 7:01 pm

    Vegen Taliban. Wants us to not eat any animal products because she thinks it’s morally wrong. So she says that they are all unhealthy even though the human race has survived off animal proteins since we the beginning of our existence. And cures a bunch of studies from twenty years ago?? Bs I say.

  38. awesome February 13, 2014, 6:10 pm

    i am totes way smarter to NOT drink milk, dudes. :(
    i fell bad for the people that are vegatirain….
    i am looking at you cara…

  39. Buster February 12, 2014, 1:06 pm

    I drank a glass of 2% milk yesterday and when I stood up from the table, all my bones shattered. I’m going to eat some yogurt and hopefully they will all come back together.

    • Val Cosmos February 24, 2014, 11:16 pm

      Wow, those stories echo with mine. Two days ago I added a spoonful of milk to my coffee, although I usually don

    • Internettroll February 21, 2014, 3:34 pm

      I had a bowl of cereal yesterday and this morning when I woke up, I stepped out of bed and broke my hip! Really painful, I believe that if I eat yogurt maybe my hip will heal itself overnight, say no to milk! :)

  40. Joanna Lister February 12, 2014, 10:17 am

    for those who prefer some scientific info.. and yes dairy is one of the cruelest industries in the world, and then there is of course the allowable somatic cell count in your milk – yes pus that is allowed in your milk..

  41. anonymous February 12, 2014, 9:27 am

    This article makes me wanna have a tall glass of milk with some cheese.

    • Karen February 25, 2014, 8:40 am

      mhmm puss milk yea !!!

      • Karen February 25, 2014, 8:42 am

        My Uncle had a dairy farm is retired now.. Would never drink what he sold for profit.

    • cara February 13, 2014, 6:06 pm


  42. Lyn February 12, 2014, 6:39 am

    I love milk and milk products but I know my sinuses get blocked if I over do it. I started using soy in my tea thinking it would be healthier and after a year of having 3 or 4 cups of tea a day with soy in, some of my teeth feel (rough) no matter how much I brush. I think the soy consumption maybe leaching the calcium from my teeth, don’t know, bit of a concern, so have gone back to cows milk.

  43. Willy February 12, 2014, 1:57 am

    FACT: All proteins are made up of Amino Acids. All proteins are acidic regardless of their source. This article is totally bogus.

    • jon February 19, 2014, 6:55 pm

      Sigh. Don’t you wish you could make an off the cuff remark and that make it automatically true? Do your research. Milk is loaded with protien. You might think that is good but you body cannot process protien or amino acids without magnesium. So as you are loading you body full of useless protien the acid is damaging your bones.

      • Inoculum March 12, 2014, 10:18 am

        Sigh…Seems you didn’t do any research. Who told you that magnesium is needed to process proteins? Proteins are processed into peptides by the pepsin protease in our stomach WITHOUT the use of magnesium. Further cleavage is done by a bunch of pankreas enzymes. So your claims are totally bogus.
        There are indeed some metalloproteases but I think they play a minority role in the digestion system.

      • Visien Vinesa March 4, 2014, 10:09 am

        I agree with you. Magnesium is rarely mentioned in articles explaining milk myth.

  44. DTran February 11, 2014, 3:21 pm

    Boom. Here is a new study that shows no correlation between animal protein and calcium loss. Do better research please. If you are an strength base athlete, you are gonna eat a lot of meat to built muscle yet powerlifters, bodybuilders, and Oly lifters are lifting huge amount of weights and their bone can support. Weight training helps support healthy bones. Those studies from the 90′s that you listed only prove that people are living sedentary lifestyles.

  45. Aasim Soomro February 10, 2014, 11:57 pm

    My response to this article:
    In response to your article:
    1. The burden of proof is on the one making the crazy claim, which is “Milk leaches calcium from bones.” -The author says there are many studies, yet hasn’t provided a link to even one.
    2. The second point doesn’t really say why it’s bad for you or your bones. It just says that cow’s milk is really good for calves – nobody’s arguing that.
    3. Regarding the increased fracture risk: Correlation does not imply causation. Just because two variables are statistically associated, doesn’t mean one of them causes the other. It could be that people that drink a lot of milk also drink a lot of soda and eat a lot of cookies – both sweet, acidic foods that could be causing the brittle bones. Also, just because milk doesn’t prevent fractures does not mean that it’s bad or unnatural to drink it.
    4. More statistics that attempt to imply causation – But they do not account for confounding factors, such as countries that drink less milk, have a lower GDP, and thus die of other bacterial and viral illnesses before developing chronic conditions such as osteoporosis. Or perhaps countries drinking more milk get less vitamin D, which is important for absorption of the calcium.
    5. Something about a Positive Renal Acid Load – No proof or link to study making such claim, and a quick google search on PRAL and dairy only showed a study done on infants – aka people who haven’t developed a complete acid-base buffering system. Moreover, I’m running into a lot of studies that claim “high protein intake” (eating lots of meat) is causing the metabolic acidosis and calcium leaching, not dairy protein (casein/whey) specifically.
    6. Yogurt, the super beneficial food, comes from milk, and why is yogurt “good” according to the author? Because it’s acid-netural. And so the entire beef (no pun intended) the author has with milk boils down to the fact that it is an acidic substance. Yes, milk is very slightly acidic (pH = 6.7), but it is still not clear whether this slight acidity is directly linked to calcium leakage from bones.

    • Kelly March 27, 2014, 10:56 am

      The dairy industry has never given us scientific proof that milk is good for the bones and therefore it is just sellerstalk.

    • P. Anderegg February 12, 2014, 8:25 am

      I have not drunk milk since I was twelve y.o.
      I have had any number of falls on ice, snow, dog poop and other wet surfaces over the years.
      I have never broken any bones. When I took calcium pills, my legs cramped.
      I drink lots of water and my bone density tests show that my bones have post-menopausal syndrome which is because I am over seventy. The Doctor says I am in no danger of breaking bones.

      • Martha April 11, 2014, 8:04 pm

        Your bones have “post menopausal syndrome”? Just your bones, right?


      • Adam February 12, 2014, 12:55 pm

        I drink milk all the time and have never broken a bone. I have had very physical jobs and fallen off a ladder. I’ve smacked my fingers with a hammer. Never broken a bone. Correlation is not necessarily causation. :)

  46. Damian Ayre February 10, 2014, 12:14 am

    Then why aren’t the 100′s of millions of people, who drank milk their entire lives, all suffering from Osteoporosis ? You say that they are losing calcium when they drink milk and yet most people have been drinking milk every day. By your logic they should all have extremely brittle bones by the time they are 20 years old. The people of Wisconsin should have the most fragile bones in the world…but they don’t.

    I’m 44 now and I drank a ton of milk from the time I was 9 years old up until last year when I went vegan. I drank more milk when I was growing up than 99% of the boys in the world. When I was a teenager I was drinking 3/4 to 1 gallon of milk every day. My bones are very strong, I’ve led a very active life with sports, including football and the martial arts, and being in the military for 3 years and I’ve never broken a single bone.

    There are more lies and half-truths in this article than there are facts.

    • Michael B February 10, 2014, 11:08 am

      Nearly a third of Americans over 65 years old has, or will have, osteoporosis. Countries with low dairy intake have fare lower rates of osteoporosis. Countries with higher per captia rates of dairy consumption also have far higher rates of osteoporosis and cancer.

      Think about it… a mother’s breast secretions are designed to make babies grow as fast as possible. It is designed to stimulate fast, aggressive growth for a limited period during infancy. As you age, the LAST thing you want is a substance that accelerates growth in your body, hence the tumor and cancer connection with decades of drinking dairy.

      You might try reading the China Study for more information on this topic and the dangerous effects on humans, especially adult humans, consuming a cow’s breast secretions. Or watch the movie Forks over Knives.

      • DLH February 13, 2014, 6:48 pm

        Sorry, no sale. I lived in Asia, where recent generations’ dairy intake has gone up – as has their height, strength, and posture. I had never seen so many older adults with osteoporosis, and am betting it’s because dairy wasn’t huge there when they were young. Sick of made-up scary facts about food. Most of them can only be verified through “sources” already advocating some kind of alternative lifestyle. All the healthiest people I know consume dairy. Nice try, though.

      • Sal February 11, 2014, 1:55 pm

        Michael, the osteoporosis statistic has been linked to the massive consumption of cola based drinks (Coca Cola) which actively prevents calcium from being absorbed. Yes, overconsumption of milk is bad. As is the overconsumption of any other product. Moderate amounts of milk are quite beneficial to the human body.

        • Mason Slaughter March 10, 2014, 11:31 am

          You say its biased but what gives you the authority to say that. As a matter of fact the best studies ever conducted about animal products and its effects on the human body were done by Dr. Campbell. He was a dairy farmer he went into all of his studies biased, and left enlightened. Stop trying to justify your habits by dissing our facts. Until you have devoted your life to unveiling all the myths associated with modern food industry, then you can talk

          • Kathy April 11, 2014, 8:05 pm

            Dr. Campbell found out he could make a lot more money selling books to fools than as a dairy farmer. His book is a joke.

  47. Jenna February 9, 2014, 2:55 pm

    Just want to put this out there… I’ve always been naturally very thin, but had cellulite on thighs and butt.. even as a 106 lb active teenager on swim team. I was raised to drink a glass of milk with every meal. At almost 30 now.. I’ve been avoiding milk and all dairy for about a year. My cellulite disappeared. It was like magic. I have no proof except for my own body, but fat cells seem to sit a bit different when you cut out milk. Just saying..

  48. Alex February 6, 2014, 10:13 am

    Studies that “prove” that milk is a bad source of calcium are biased, like most researches trying to discredit animal proteins in general.
    You do not need just calcium to make bones, you also need fat soluble vitamins. Those researches have been done in the US, where milk is skimmed because fats are sssso bad! Cultures who drink full fat milk (northern Europe, Greece, nomad herder tribes all over the world, etc) do pretty fine.

    That said, milk has other issues (caseins, lactose) that’s why I rarely have diary and in those cases I have full fermented yoghurt or kefir and aged cheeses.

    Then there are ethical concerns, too, of course.

    • DLH February 13, 2014, 6:48 pm

      Agree. I lived in Asia, where recent generations’ dairy intake has gone up – as has their height, strength, and posture. I had never seen so many older adults with osteoporosis, and am betting it’s because dairy wasn’t huge there when they were young. Sick of made-up scary facts about food. Most of them can only be verified through “sources” already advocating some kind of alternative lifestyle. All the healthiest people I know consume dairy.

  49. LM February 5, 2014, 5:51 pm

    Wonderful, wonderful info!! I knew milk was generally unhealthy, but now I know why. In recent years, I completely omit milk and milk products from my diet since I have asthma – heard it was terrible for respiratory conditions. I am amazed at how much better I feel (not sluggish) and I have fewer asthma attacks and URI’s after making this dietary change! And also to learn I’m doing the right thing for my bones is even better reason to never go back.

    • HS-MD February 5, 2014, 11:21 pm

      The changes you are experiencing are most likely attributed to other factors that you have changed along with cutting milk and milk products out of your diet. While reducing cheese or butter intake is a great way to lose weight, cutting milk does not carry the same load at all.

      Milk will not exacerbate your asthma, and I challenge you to find the actual vetted study that showed a correlation. This article is unbelievably bias and it is due to people “sounding smart” that we have public health issues such as the stigma against vaccinations. When reading articles such as this, ask yourself the following:

      1) Is this a valid source on its own (a vetted journal article/review)

      2) Is this article from a governmental regulator/site (aka a .gov site)

      3) If none of the above are present, then are the references to the facts and claims they making present; if not then do not take it seriously because more often than not: It is not true.

      If you follow the source of this article, the actual studies are not cited anywhere. In fact, the proper rebuttal to each point is made in the comments by a gentleman named Alan, with a Harvard source that counter the issues made against milk.

      Continue the good work that has reduced your asthmatic exacerbation, I presume the reduction in milk product consumption was accompanied with exercise and overall better eating/lifestyle habits. However, do not criminalize a Vitamin/Mineral powerhouse such as milk.

      For some power to my opinion, I have a Bacherlor’s in Honours Biochemistry from Concordia University, MSc in Protein Chemistry from Concordia University and am currently in my 2nd year of Medical School (McGill University) in Canada.

      • dean February 11, 2014, 6:20 pm

        You sound smart and you claim to have credentials that would indicate that is the case, but the potential that this is not the case is greatly increased by the fact you would claim governmental regulators or sites lend credence to any argument. Then again, maybe I’m just too cynical :)

        • Ben February 13, 2014, 11:44 am

          Hey, look! It’s another anti-gubment person who’s afraid of real science. You’re welcome for all those eradicated diseases, by the way. ;)

  50. Chrism February 1, 2014, 11:23 am

    It’s hard to believe, so it seems like ill continue to drink milk :)

    • Eddie February 3, 2014, 10:13 pm

      Chrism: The writing is on the wall. Open your mind.

    • Yara February 3, 2014, 8:32 pm

      I never knew what a scam milk was! Wow! I used to drink a lot, but now my bones are safe.

  51. Margaret Hurley January 27, 2014, 10:05 pm

    Dear Vivian
    You mention that drinking milk is not good for your bones but it is OK to eat plain unsweetened organic yogurt. You have not mentioned anything about cheese. Should one stay away from Cheese as it is also a dairy product. Or do the same comments made in regard to yogurt also apply to cheese? Comments anyone?


    • HS-MD February 5, 2014, 11:35 pm

      One thing to keep in mind is the correlation between Countries That Consume Milk vs. Osteoporosis is one filled with confounding factors:

      For example, have you noticed that countries that consume milk also have higher life expectancy? Permitting people to reach the point of developing osteoporosis? Furthermore, these countries have people whom are more sedentary and less likely to be exposed to enough sunlight to generate Vitamin D – a Calcium absorbing and depositing necessity!

      In terms of Cheese vs. Milk vs. Yogurt (Organic or Not); it all has to do with your body itself. Cheese is very heavy in terms of fat and gives you a tad more than you need, especially with the average person overloading food with cheese additives. If losing weight is not a concern for you, then eating cheese should not be either. Yogurt is always a good option for snacking, and probiotics are known to boost your immune system by adding some nice flora to the bacteria that live in your gut, so there’s no issue with Yogurt consumption either.

      As far as Milk is concerned, it IS a great source of Calcium and energy for the day – in fact, milk is a great vector for the Government (a body that is vilified unjustly on this site) to add nutrients to your diet that you otherwise wouldn’t add, such as Vitamin D.

      Do not shut down Milk as being dangerous, here are some questions you should asked for reading articles like this in the future:

      1) Is this a valid source on its own (a vetted journal article/review)

      2) Is this article from a governmental regulator/site (aka a .gov site)

      3) If none of the above are present, then are the references to the facts and claims they making present; if not then do not take it seriously because more often than not: It is not true.

      If you follow the source of this article, the actual studies are not cited anywhere. In fact, the proper rebuttal to each point is made in the comments by a gentleman named Alan, with a Harvard source that counter the issues made against milk.
      Continue the good work that has reduced your asthmatic exacerbation, I presume the reduction in milk product consumption was accompanied with exercise and overall better eating/lifestyle habits. However, do not criminalize a Vitamin/Mineral powerhouse such as milk.
      For some power to my opinion, I have a Bacherlor’s in Honours Biochemistry from Concordia University, MSc in Protein Chemistry from Concordia University and am currently in my 2nd year of Medical School (McGill University) in Canada.

      • What does the Fox say February 11, 2014, 5:24 am

        I think this is really hard to believe, It’s shocking, it’s like reading an article about moon hoax. I told my friends about this but they would just laugh about it. But let’s be clear people. There is a 12 years

  52. John January 24, 2014, 4:21 pm

    Thank god I have lactose intolerance. Sad for people who have been drinking milk daily.

    • J February 1, 2014, 12:43 pm

      no, john. no.

    • T January 30, 2014, 9:35 am

      john no

  53. Carson January 23, 2014, 11:55 am

    If its true that the calcium leaves our bones because of the acid in the foods we consume, wouldn’t that mean that drinking orange juice or eating other healthy high acid fruits would also cause bone deterioration? Someone explain this to me.

    • joe January 23, 2014, 2:17 pm

      Understanding ph in the body isnt as simple as that. The ph scale is based on how the body handles acidity, not strictly whether the food is acidic or not. Animal protein, tho not acidic, atleast in the case of milk, leads to a lower ph in the blood, which forces the body to respond with calcium or magnesium or iodine or what have you to put the ph of the blood back into the proper range of 6.8-7.2.

      • HS-MD February 5, 2014, 11:41 pm

        This reply is false, your first clue should be that he thinks the Blood pH is 6.8-7.2 (It SHOULD be from 7.35-7.45), what he is describing are SERIOUS problems you could see with somebody in shock or diabetic keto-acidosis!

        As far as Carson’s original question. for a healthy person the pH regulation of the stomach is more than a match for the consumption of milk itself, and acidic drinks such as orange juice will be countered by a chain of metabolic responses to counter the acidity once your stomach contents enter the duodenum (The region of the intestines right outside of the stomach).

  54. bm January 22, 2014, 9:48 pm

    FYI We are not the only ones that drink other animals milk. Orphaned animals drink from any lactating mother that will let them. LOOK IT UP.

    • Spero February 8, 2014, 3:25 am

      We are the only species that drinks milk after infantcy especially another species milk.

      • caitlin February 19, 2014, 4:59 pm

        I know right ewww

      • Tyler February 14, 2014, 1:20 pm

        The only reason they stop is because the mother is no longer able to practically provide for their children’s nutritional needs solely through their milk. Can you imagine how aggravated your mother would be if she was your and your siblings only source of nutrition, even into adulthood. And what would happen to you when your mother died? You wouldn’t have had time to adapt to solid food, and would die from lack of nutrition.

    • joe January 23, 2014, 2:28 pm

      Not past the common 7 months of breast feeding. And this is due to the animals need for nutrients, most certainly not because they have the urge to seek milk elsewhere from their species, milk nolonger becomes a staple in their diet past a certain age, either, so your comment is irrelevant. The principle arguement is why do we ingest milk from cows that are forced into pregnancy but we dont treat our wives that same way? They produce milk specifically designed for us. Why not force them into being pregnant and then milk them for your neighborhood.

      • Rebecca January 24, 2014, 11:43 am

        That comment is totally absurd! We don’t treat animals by human standards. This does NOT constitute animal abuse, either. People leave their dogs outside with a doghouse for shelter or put them on dog runs. This is not cruel to dogs. People have different needs than animals. As for keeping women pregnant for their milk? How absurd is that!? Actually there ARE women who donate their breast milk to hospitals for sick or premature babies. With having three children, I was in a constant state of lactation for over five years. What did I do with my excess milk? I put it in the refrigerator for my older kids to drink. They LOVED it! Most 5 and 6 year old children are NOT breast fed. However, my kids loved my milk and drank it in cups with their breakfast or lunch. These arguments are ridiculous and smell of people over obsessed with treating animals as human equals and NOT whether humans should consume milk.

        • joe January 26, 2014, 12:39 pm

          Ok, answer me this, have you seen and understand the life of an artificially inseminated cow or pig? Do you believe being in a constant state of pregnacy for 7 years as something any living thing would enjoy? And your arguement of lactating for 5 years is completely irrelevant, and the reason is, you were lactating, not producing 5 consecutive children while being made to endure sub standard living conditions as well as substand nutrition. And seperate to that,, i have provided the science behind the non dairy arguement, so do yourself a favor and broaden your feeble mind by do some research

          • Chuffy February 13, 2014, 2:37 pm

            Hi there, im from sweden and ive worked with cows a bit and let me tell you this: the cows that i worked with were friendly, curious and quite frankly they seemed perfectly happy actually im bold enough to say that they were happy.

          • Eddie February 3, 2014, 10:18 pm

            Thanks joe. It’s an uphill battle to educate people to a level where they can embody true empathy for the entire living world, not just the human world.

  55. Glen January 15, 2014, 9:00 pm

    The thing we all should keep away from is Bull$#!t. There’s plenty of it floating around here. Hey does anyone still try for a balanced diet, exercise and plenty of sunshine? There will always be persons in the community that have osteoporosis from genetic causes, just have to play with the cards you are dealt. At 43 years of age, using Fosamax for 7 years gave me 12 years without more repeated fractures so I was able to enjoy many active years. Been off it for several years and bone density is now rapidly deteriorating again, so – just got to be careful, try something else for a few years and just get on with enjoying the good things that I have.

  56. joe January 15, 2014, 8:19 pm

    I find some of these so called counter arguements on here troubling. To preface my comment, we should all understand that if you do not support this claim based on faulty science, then please, provide science that proves otherwise. The truth is, there is none. The NIH has made the following clear:

    Animal foods provide predominantly acid precursors, whereas protein in vegetable foods is accompanied by base precursors not found in animal foods.

    So to put this to rest, this article makes an absolutely scientifically correct claim. Milk raises your ph, which in turn does exactly as the article claims, your body respondes with an acid neutralizer, calcium. Seperate to that, modern dairy cows are treated terribly and injected with antibiotics, and hormones to counteract the troubles that accompany the fattening process of feeding the cows an unnatural corn based diet. These are irrefutable facts. Good informative article.

    • Rebecca January 23, 2014, 1:32 pm

      I’m not going to say one way or the other about this article, as I have not looked up this information. With that said, there is something that bothers me about your comment and makes me “feel” that you aren’t really understanding what you are talking about. Anyone that knows anything about chemistry knows that acids actually LOWER your pH and bases RAISE your pH.

      So your comment, “Milk raises your ph, which in turn does exactly as the article claims, your body respondes with an acid neutralizer, calcium.” is false.

      Raising your body pH would NOT induce your body to release calcium from your bones. LOWERING your body pH would. So are you believing everything you read that’s negative about certain foods OR do you actually know what you are talking about? Hopefully it’s a simple mistake.

      Like I said, I haven’t researched the topic. I’m not an authority on “milk” even though I’m not a milk drinker. But there are way too many people out there that believe everything that they read without doing the actual digging into the research. Something I WILL be doing about milk. My biggest milk drinking kid has broken the most bones. Coincidence? I don’t know.

      • T.S.S. February 3, 2014, 9:03 pm

        People, seriously. You need to put on your big girl/boy panties and take responsibility for your diet and research this info. There are MANY articles out there published by scientists that have PROVEN facts on this study. It’s not a bunch of bleeding heart activists whining over the treatment of animals. I won’t lie, my family loves milk, cheese, yogurt and a host of other dairy based items. Since learning about this (through other sources) about a month ago, my family has changed their whole diet and the way we look at foods. At first it was awkward, especially when I craved a big chunk of cheese, but we actually have been loosing wait and feeling better.

        Do your research before you comment. Thank you.

    • Tom January 16, 2014, 5:11 am

      In Europe there are strict laws against using antibiotics in dairy cows hormones are also banned in Europe and were never used in milking cows. As for your claim that cows are treated badly show some proof other than cherry picked youtube videos, any dairy farmer I know treat their cows very well.

      • joe January 16, 2014, 8:51 am

        Well, the american humane society reports 83% of dairy cows are restricted from grazing, 30-60% are fed substandard diets of slaughter waste, 63% receive artificial bovine growth hormone, and almost all dairy cows get their tails snipped without medication to help with pain. Do you believe those practices are natural? Are they ethical? Would you allow your children to recieve medical attention with total disregard for their comfort? Maybe lock them up all day restricting their movement? Thats all not considering the worst offense of extendes artificial insemination. Would you keep your wife pregnant for years on end? These are all unnatural and cruel.

  57. Damjan January 15, 2014, 6:57 pm

    Alright, so I see you’re basing all this on the fact that milk has a pH of 6.5,which is, by the way, almost neutral, being so close to 7. Other beverages and foods such as orange juice, coffee, BANANAS, lemon juice, tomato juice, vinegar, all have even lower pH than milk, which makes them more acidifying, as you say. Lemon peaks at 2, orange juice is 3, bananas are 5, while tomato juice is 4. Should we stop consuming all of these acidic foods because the same effect might happen? Are all of these foods destroying our bones?

    I’m sorry, but your theory just doesn’t convince me. I’m not a fan of milk, I don’t drink it, and quite frankly I’m concerned about my calcium intake because I don’t. On the other hand, I find it very hard to digest dairy products, but that could just mean that I’m lactose intolerant, and not all people are. And while it does sound like common sense that no other animal drinks the milk of a species other than their own, and during infancy, maybe we’ve evolved and adapted. Take a look at dogs. They’ve been living around man for eons, and over time, adapted from being carnivores to becoming omnivores, because humans are omnivores by nature and whatever they left behind, the dogs ate. Wolves are carnivorous by nature, yet dogs eat just about anything they can find (their own feces, and the feces of others, mind you. My grandma had two dogs and a cat, once the cat defecated on the ground, and the dogs scared her away from it and ate it.), and they still live up to 14 years on average, which is normal for a dog. So to say we shouldn’t drink milk just because the other animals don’t do it, you just can’t claim it to be entirely true.

    • Kelvin January 24, 2014, 6:05 pm

      Dogs eat their own feaces because their digestive system does’nt fully process the food they eat, so the food is only partially digested …why waste a meal!

    • Melissa January 20, 2014, 11:48 am

      Acidic foods do not cause the body to become acidic, just like basic foods do not cause the body to become basic.

      They said *animal protein* causes this.

      The proteins in animal tissue tend to contain more of the sulfur-containing amino acids methionine and cysteine than the proteins of plants. This means that your body produces more sulfuric acid (battery acid!) when it burns animal protein than when it burns plant protein. As a result, eating animal protein produces an excess acid load in the body.

  58. Dr. Nick January 13, 2014, 4:03 pm

    Hey Vivian, did you go to Hollywood Upstairs Medical College, too?

    • David January 15, 2014, 1:21 pm

      No, Dr. Nick, she did not go to Hollywood Upstairs Medical College. She has an MA, Masters of Arts, but not an MD. Or a Ph.D., or an M.Sc., or even a B.Sc. which are a selection of degrees one should have if they are to begin spouting anti-Milk BS.

      • saj January 28, 2014, 10:50 am

        Ha! Well said! Those are the degrees you should have when talking so “scientifically” about such an important subject. Since I have heard this “debate” on milk I have been in search of solid concrete evidence linking these claims to milk. The only things I find so far against milk are “shady and sketchy to say the least. Can some one site me to a creditible source of info here? Not someones blog who knows arts, maybe some one or better yet an actually reputable authority on science?

  59. Christian January 12, 2014, 11:44 pm

    So stupid (I’m not referring to the article with this comment, though the article is false as the author is taking quotes out of context). I’m reading the comments and all I see is, “Other animals don’t drink milk from other animals”; “People can be lactose intolerant so milk is unnatural”; “The food industry is disgusting”; etc.

    While other animals don’t drink other animals’ milk, animals also don’t cook their food, don’t make giant complex houses, don’t drive vehicles they made themselves, etc. Why can’t people understand that humans are just a different kind of species?

    People can be lactose intolerant, yes. However, since when does being allergic to something you eat make this food suddenly unnatural? My friend is allergic to oranges, almonds, peanuts, milk, watermelon, and carrots. Are we just going to look at milk and point it out as the guilty subject? People can be allergic to a wide-variety of things, but that doesn’t change anything when it comes to what’s natural and what’s not; especially for very different humans.

    The food industry keeps you alive. Farmers keep you alive. You realize you can get organic food, small-farm food, etc. right? We have a dairy farm down the road from us that doesn’t use hormones, or other injections. We don’t buy from them, because let’s face it: healthy, all-natural food is too expensive. Cheapen the price, and maybe people will buy this special snowflake food! Otherwise, the lot of you are treating big dairy and food corporations as devils when not all of them are! You’re putting all of them in a huge bin, which is ignorant to say the least.

    To close, I see comments like, “Cutting out dairy has helped me so much,” and “Dairy has done nothing wrong to me.” Okay, so what? You realize every human is different, right? We’re not all affected by one thing and another. We’re all unique including our digestive systems. Milk may help others, however, it may worsen others. Is that so hard to understand? If you think you’re better off without milk, then go ahead and keep living that way. However, other people are doing just fine; I’ve never broken a bone when I’ve thought many times that I should have. But again, uniqueness also seems to be a factor many of us haven’t even considered.

    • Melissa January 14, 2014, 1:45 am

      Not only is milk bad for your health as proved by scientists and doctors, it is also one of the most cruelest industries on earth. Cows are continually artificially impregnated (raped) to enable them to get pregnant and produce milk. When their calf is born, he or she is taken away from his mother and not allowed to drink her milk – because he can’t drink his own mother’s milk that we want to steal and sell to humans? That makes no financial sense! Cows often scream for days on end for their baby that was taken away. How would you feel if someone took your newborn from you and used you as a milk producing factory? Boy calves (bobby calves) are considered a waste product of the industry and used for veal, leather or simply dumped in the trash. Girl calves will take their mother’s place when their mother finally collapses from all the unnatural milking and torture. Cows can live 20 years, but dairy cows live 4-6 years before they are spent, at which time their bodies get dragged to the house of slaughter. Isn’t this just the most complete and utter exploitation of motherhood and disregard for life? You only have to type “dairy cow investigation” into youtube to find hundreds of videos and evidence showing extreme abuse on dairy farms. Do you really want to be a part of that? For something that isn’t good for you to begin with? I mean, are we all still babies that need milk? When are we going to grow up and start taking responsibility for the consequences of our actions. And NO – it is not Satan’s fault if you get cancer or osteoporosis – it’s your own fault for consuming animal products when you are actually a herbivore!

      • Kelvin January 24, 2014, 6:19 pm

        2, not all farmers are the horrific sadists you make them out to be
        3, if there is so much evidence AGAIN NOT YOU TUBE to support this please supply a reference list so others can check the research for themselves. otherwise what you are providing is JUST YOUR OPINION

      • Mika January 24, 2014, 4:26 am

        Not sure where do you live and how close are you in dairy production, but you give me a picture of person who has never been in straight contact with it.
        Let me clear some facts in Finland.
        1. Unhealthy life for animal = Lower quality&quantity
        2. The calf can drink her mothers milk
        3. Healthy cow lives long = more profit/cow
        4. Pumping them full of drugs, will affect the quality of milk
        5. Our neighbor Russia, accepts only unprocessed food to be imported there = Less processing = More healthy (tastes better too)

        And about humans
        1. Were are not 100% herbivores
        2. Eating salad is good for you
        3. But you need meat.
        You can try to consume vitamins to compensate, but you need to have animal fat to make digesting system to be able take them in use.

        I eat about 85% of my food as herbal base, but also I eat wish and game.

        About milk.
        1. Good amount of milk varies between people. In Finland our digesting system has developed to be able to process animal milk, especially cows because of our need for vitamin D and calcium. (No sunlight in winter)
        2. This article writer is making a lot of assumptions.
        3. So do you (watching youtube videos does not increase credibility.)

        I have a lactose intolerance (very weird in here) but it manifests only when I consume processed milk. Anything else goes down with no problem. Fresh milk is no problem and it also verifies the fact that it is not dangerous to humans. But as I told, “danger” varies.

        But honestly, go out and see and try things by yourself….

  60. Richard Jones January 9, 2014, 1:11 am

    If you read the “Case-Control Study of Risk Factors for Hip Fractures in the Elderly”. American Journal of Epidemiology. Vol. 139, No. 5, 1994.
    The actual conclusion regarding that was that animal fats led to being overweight, which in turn had a negative affect on bone density. Other factors observed were smoking, physical activity, and weight.

    Both the quote from the American Journal of Public Health and the one from Amy Lanou are taken out of context to imply milk is detrimental to bone health. In actuality, they state that milk is neither detrimental nor beneficial.

    • Glen January 15, 2014, 9:29 pm

      Yeah, I’m 55, and have osteoporosis (again) after discontinuing Fosamax a few years ago.
      My diet is good with high fibre, vegies, fruit, fish, lean meat etc plus heaps of exercise (both cardio & weights). I surf every day but now have to avoid the larger waves and keep clear of aggressive surfers (as now I will always come off second best). Everything is super-perfect except for my bones. Have been getting heaps of fractures since age 22.
      NOTE !! — I have a TWIN brother who eats poorly but supplements his diet with plenty of beer, milkshakes and greasy fat hamburgers. He has a sedentary job and does little exercise. The result? He has excellent health and REALLY GOOD BONES – so do ALL my peers who share his poor lifestyle. Does one conclude that diet has no effect on bone health or do bones fare better when the body is neglected?

  61. Lynn January 9, 2014, 12:41 am

    Finally someones got their head on straight. We should market human breast milk rather than cow milk but everyone would just think thats crazy…

    • Trevor Evenson January 12, 2014, 11:58 pm

      I see that you are female, you want to volunteer for this great idea?

  62. Manny January 8, 2014, 2:56 am

    If milk is so bad for you , then why give it to children at school and babies and everyone else for that matte. Don’t you think that if milk is bad for you they would have taken it away from the market already.

    • stefan January 22, 2014, 3:23 am

      indeed ignorance kills!

    • Melissa January 14, 2014, 1:54 am

      Take off those blinders! If smoking is bad for you – why is it legally on the market. If alcohol is more dangerous than marijuana – then why is there a liquor store on every street? If GMO’s are proven not to be safe – why does 90% of the food on your shelves contain gmo’s? And why did Barack Obama sign the Monsanto Protection Act? If microwaving your food is not very good for you – then why can you buy one day or night? If fluoride is bad for you – then why is it in your toothpaste and in your tap water? If aluminium is very bad for you – then why is it in every antiperspirant on the market? DO YOU REALLY STILL THINK THERE IS SOME UNKNOWN PERSON OUT THERE LOOKING OUT FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY’S HEALTH? You are mistaken. It is your own responsibility to educate yourself about what you put into your mouth and feed your children. If you die from cancer one day caused by gmo’s for example, you cannot say that you didn’t know. Ignorance about what you eat and where it comes from and what you do to your own body is not an excuse, just like ignorance of the law is not an excuse.

      • Ben February 13, 2014, 11:57 am

        I’m just gonna’ note that most GMOs ARE safe.

    • Trevor January 12, 2014, 11:59 pm

      The dairy industry is powerful. The last thing they want to do is to have people stop using their products. So what do you think the motivation is?!

      • Glen January 13, 2014, 12:17 pm

        Your grammar is horrible.

    • o January 11, 2014, 6:53 pm

      is it possible that u r that much stupid??? probablly the milk did that to ya, … made u that much stupid. u idiot!

    • terni January 9, 2014, 6:39 am

      if “they” cared about what was bad for you they would have taken cigarettes, alcohol, processed foods, hormone and antibiotic filled foods, and genetically modified foods off the matket. but they dont so they havent. theres only one thing they care about and thats money. if they can mass produce it and the people want it, its going to be sold to us

      • Melissa January 14, 2014, 2:06 am

        Hi Terni. You are right. In a world where money and profit comes first, our health, the environment and everything else will always come secondary to that. “As a vegan I’m not really interested in discussing what type of diet our caveman ancestors ate, or whether God put animals here for us to eat, or if we can obtain enough protein from a plant-based diet, or if humans are biologically herbivore or omnivore. These are tired arguments. What we should be discussing is how we can move forward and evolve as a race. The killing of billions of animals every year for food and clothing has helped put this planet and its inhabitants in the crisis situation that we’re now faced with. And veganism offers a solution. Global warming, the declining health of our population, polluted waterways and depleted soil, fished out oceans, starvation in poor countries, species extinction and rain forest destruction are but a few of the problems that can be addressed and remedies if more people embraced a vegan lifestyle. This is why being vegan is so important…if offers viable solutions and compassionate answers. It saves lives….not only animal lives but very likely our own. The human race has baked itself into a corner, veganism offers a way out. Lets move forward” – Rich Lysloff

        • saj January 28, 2014, 11:23 am

          Please “Veganisim” is not a cure all to our global problems. Don’t you think if everyone gave up meat today, a hell of a lot more land would be needed to farm veggies for all the new vegans? I mean come on, the solutions to the worlds problems doesn’t fit into that one tiny box. Sorry. Its way bigger and way more complicated then that..

    • Kendal January 8, 2014, 5:26 pm

      You’re right. Because so many people believe in outdated information, it must be right. So many people just can’t be wrong…. and look at cigarettes and all those old “9 out of 10 doctors smoke Marlboros” ads. Doctors are always right….

      • Melissa January 14, 2014, 2:11 am

        Hi Kendal. You are right. We are carrying on with practices which are very outdated and detrimental to our health and our planet, all in the name of palate pleasure, tradition and profit. It makes no sense. Yes our ancestors ate meat, but we are not Neanderthals and cannot keep looking to the past to justify our cruel and barbaric present.

  63. Brett December 29, 2013, 5:52 pm

    I’d just like to applaud everyone leaving sensible, polite and thoughtful comments. It’s only through our own research, study and investigating that we should draw conclusions, inn all aspects of our lives. Let’s hear all sides of the argument but leave out the rude and derogatory language.
    For my part I’d say that cows milk is designed for calves and to my knowledge no animal on the planet drinks another’s milk into adulthood?

  64. Anymous December 28, 2013, 6:03 pm

    Truvia is ok. But honey still has sugar. I think honey tastes better but you shouldent add lots of honey because it is less processed.

  65. sirian181st December 26, 2013, 8:20 pm

    Oh and I notice that while they point out that your body regulates blood acidity by removing calcium from your bones, the exact same chemical that causes the osteoclasts increased activity putting more calcium from the bones into the blood also causes more calcium to be taken up from the urine and GI tract. Also the system is based on the blood calcium level so if you had been drinking milk then you would have a higher blood calcium level anyway and so your body wouldn’t need to add anymore. I’m sorry but this article is just the most agenda driven, one-sided piece you could imagine. It is doing nothing short of intentionally decieveing you.

    • Dan December 30, 2013, 11:19 am

      Just out of curiosity, what do you think the “agenda” is? Informing people of the possible adverse affects of drinking milk to improve their health doesn’t seem like such a bad agenda. The dairy industry has spents billions upon billions of dollars pushing their agenda and brainwashing society to think they must drink milk. Aside from the relative lack of any practical value in an adult human’s diet, there is actually emerging evidence that seems to suggest a causal relationship between dairy consumption and hormone driven cancers such as prostate, testicular and breast. The rates of these forms of cancer have skyrocketed in Japan over the last 50 years, which coincides with their adoption of a dairy-heavy diet.

  66. Sirian181st December 26, 2013, 8:06 pm

    is this satire or a serious post? Honestly can’t tell. Surely people are aware that all protiens no matter what their soucre are transported around your body as an acid. You also have carbon dioxide dissolved in your blood which makes it acidic. So by this theory everyone should be devoid of calcium. Second, your body needs vitamin D to facilitate the uptake of calcium. Your body produces this in your skin when exposed to UV radiation. The reason there are more cases of bone problems as you move away from the equator is because UV intensity goes down as does total sun light. The reason more dairy is consumed there is because they have more bone problems not the other way around.
    If you don’t believe me then you can look at the instances of bone problems before the marketing and push for health benefits of dairy and compare them with after. If what this article is saying was true then there should be a large increase in the occurance of reduced bone density in young and middle aged addults. (the reason I have selected only these age groups is because activity also has an effect on bone mass. If you lead an inactive life then your bones will deteriorate and old people tend to be signifficanlty less active. This voids them from particiaption as they add a 3rd variable which is not under consideration)
    Also do some research on The affects of Dairy in Japan. They only started drinking it after American influence and they have a lot of statistics for before and after.
    I’m not going to tell you what they say on the matter because people need to learn to do proper research on this stuff, not just google it and hit the top 5 results.

    • Melissa January 14, 2014, 2:18 am

      There is a big difference between animal protein and plant protein. Plant protein is by far more compatible with our bodies. If you do not care about animals or your health, surely you care at least about the environment? Farming animals for food is very detrimental to the environment. The amount of crop it takes to raise one bull could feed a whole village. Factory farming is responsible for more than 50% of greenhouse gasses. That’s just the tip of the iceberg. All the antibiotics and growth hormones which are injected into these animals all end up in the environment again.

    • Kendal January 8, 2014, 5:27 pm

      What about The China Study?

    • Scott January 2, 2014, 8:03 pm

      Thanks bloke. We need more of you around!

  67. Andrew December 19, 2013, 1:52 am

    If you’re going to start an article, don’t use good luck charms as an example of unfounded beliefs, that one is obvious and unrelated to nutrition. Also, don’t use saliva on wounds as an unfounded belief too- that one is actually incredibly founded, due to the fact the chemicals in saliva act as a disinfectant and clean wounds, but by this point I already had a good idea of what was coming in the article.

    See, what I don’t understand is that I drink loads of milk- full cream Jersey Cow milk, almost every day. I drink it in my coffee, I have it with my cereal. It doesn’t give me a bad stomach, or have any adverse affects. I don’t have acne, I’ve never broken a bone, fractured a bone, had respiratory problems, digestive problems… I think too many people nowadays are tying their own genetic intolerances to the whole human race and branding us with the same conditions.

    If you’re allergic to nuts, yes, nuts are bad for you. Don’t eat them, they can cause all sorts of problems. Does this mean everyone should avoid nuts? No. If you’re lactose intolerant, or have some form of allergy, then by all means, don’t drink milk, but no single theory accounts for every single person. An incredibly large portion of the world drinks milk, and not every single one has acne, asthma, or breaks a bone. My sister had infantile asthma, then grew out of it, and she doesn’t even drink milk! I on the other hand love milk, and have had no adverse effects from it thus far. Considering I’ve been alive and chugging it for about 20 or so, studies say I should have had one of MANY problems by now. Genetics contribute more to your nutritional requirements than anything. If your ancestors have eaten or drank something, then your body will be more physiologically predisposed to accept those substances. It’s one of the reasons that the food or water in other countries can cause illness or gives you a bad stomach, it’s not that humans aren’t MEANT to eat or drink those things, it’s just a difference in what your body is naturally used to. The same goes for milk, many people enjoy milk and live long healthy fruitful lives. Many of the longest lived people in the world drink milk, and alcohol and do things that you aren’t supposed to do, and they break convention by surviving much longer. As I say, it’s down to YOU as a person, not solely what you eat.

    Don’t get me wrong, I get the health craze which is currently coming along. “Healthy” Alternatives to food and drink are commonplace in todays society. Vegetarianism, Veganism, many theories abound around what you’re supposed to eat. Being an avid gardener and farmer, I personally enjoy a heavily organic vegetarian diet. I’ll eat fish once in a while to switch things up because I get bored of Quinoa and salad. I only really lack the finalities of Veganism due to that and my milk intake. Now I’m sure you could argue this is why I don’t suffer any real problems with my health, but at the same time, if milk were the sole cause of the health problems then something should have occured by now. Scientific studies say this, they say that, they conflict and we get massive arguments about silly things like whether milk is good for us. For every study AGAINST milk, there are just as many FOR it. The choice is entirely up to the people, but going so far as to call it a myth that needs debunking is ludicrous. Allow people to make the choice for themselves and see what works best for them, rather than poke them with the “YOU MUST NOT DRINK MILK OR IT WILL WEAKEN YOUR BONES” stick.

    It’s just a suggestion though, you can do whatever you want as an alternative to milk if you don’t like it. I’m just saying that if you really do suffer and can target milk as the source of the problem, then stop drinking milk, but if not, don’t put the blame on it and attempt to misinform or mislead people :)

    • Joy Ashton January 4, 2014, 8:21 pm

      I have to agree with Andrew regarding milk….i am 66 years old and love milk…i have drunk it all my life, at least a glass a well as in tea,coffee,cereals etc ..i am told i have very good skin for my age, wrinkles, healthy bones, ive never suffered any debilitating illnesses, and although just a little overweight in the past 2-3 years it is due to my love of chocolates and a glass of Baileys…not my love for milk….I have listened to so many comments totally against milk, that i feel i had to balance the adverse comments with my own…i am a lover of milk and i feel it has done me no harm in the many years i have drunk it…in fact just the opposite. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions,of course…but for 66 years milk as been a huge part of my diet and ive suffered no ill effects…in fact just the opposite.

      • Ryan January 29, 2014, 11:23 am

        I have an aunt who smoked those big tabaco cigars for over 70 years. She died at the ripe old age of 93. Just because my aunt lived almost a century despite of being a regular smoking does not mean smoking wonk kill other people. Perhaps your body can tolerate milk with no ill effect but that does not mean others can

    • Dan December 30, 2013, 10:50 am

      The fact is, there is actually more evidence that proves there is little to no benefit to consuming milk beyond infancy than there is that supports it. That’s not even taking into account the studies that show there may actually be adverse affects to consuming milk, especially the the majority of milk now on the market, which comes from cows pumped full of hormones and antibiotics. Sure, it’s true that someone could drink milk their entire life and not suffer any negative consequences. There are also people who smoke a pack of cigarettes a day for 60 years and don’t get emphysema or lung cancer–that doesn’t mean it’s a good idea.

  68. rob December 12, 2013, 1:36 pm

    I LOVE MILK!!!!!!!!!! ITS NOT BAD

    • Chris December 18, 2013, 1:30 pm

      Rob, if you think milk isn’t so bad go here. Thank goodness people are trying to show us what really happens in the animal industry-things you would never do to your dog or cat or do yourself to any animal so why is it okay to pay people to hurt animals for you??

      Amongst a long list of things most of these cows have milking machines hooked up to their sore boobs; I think at least the ladies can relate. Some, in addition to being inflamed are bleeding or infected. Can you imagine? Stop torturing animals when it isn’t necessary.

      There is plenty of nondairy milk, butter and even ice cream out there that is much better for you and tastes good. If given the choice, based purely on taste, I will still pick “original” almond milk on my cereal – it both tastes better and is creamier than cow’s milk, has as much calcium and isn’t full of antibiotics and hormones.

      I will only say that when I switched my Achilles tendons stopped being tight. I had no idea the two things might be related until someone told me. I didn’t need sleeping pills to sleep any more either and my skin is much smoother on my face.

      • Scott January 2, 2014, 8:09 pm

        Yeah that ‘mercy for animals’ title doesn’t seem bias at all….

      • Raul December 23, 2013, 4:27 pm

        Go ahead and hug a tree, join PETA.

        We grown ups like to have a reasonable amount of milk, and bacon too.

        Stop spreading hippie lies and unfounded claims.

        • Not-as-Ignorant January 7, 2014, 6:31 pm

          It’s funny you talk about spitting lies when the person is saying we abuse animals for our own gain.

          That isn’t quite a lie is it? It isn’t being a hippie that makes people care about the well being of other creatures, it’s being more than what the human race should be by showing proper compassion for the life around us.

          If you are devoid of the ability to emphasize that’s fine, but making fun of people who can just makes you look sad and very unintelligent. It shows you are a person who can only look into the box, and would never even consider what could be around it.

        • Dan December 30, 2013, 4:25 pm

          I like to bash PETA and tree-huggers as much as the next guy, but even if you have no regard for how the animals are treated, are you not concerned about the hormones and antibiotics they are pumped full of in order to keep the milk factory going? I drank milk for the first 30 years of my life, but I have a hard time believing that anyone who has done acutal research into what they are putting into their body would make the informed decision to keep drinking milk.

  69. Gold Finger December 9, 2013, 10:06 pm

    Did u get your degree from Pacific Western?

  70. an apple a day clinical psychologist December 9, 2013, 9:46 pm

    Quick summary: “Limiting dairy food consumption can lead to low intake of many nutrients, including calcium.” Wuthrich, Schmid, & Sieber, 2005. Journal of the American College of Nutrition. (see article title below).

    Interested in this topic, I did some research… I have been researching nutrition for 20 years, but my doctorate is in Clinical Psychology. I have a respect for science and “correlation does not equal correlation,” neatly packaged as it might be. As I am trying to take in 71 grams of protein and 1200mg of calcium per day, milk seems to offer itself as a really top-notch, ‘go-to-food.’

    I found this article which seemed to address my issue and quite a few other commenters concerns. It was published in the Journal of the American College of Nutrition (2005), so it is both recent and peer reviewed. It was a review of the literature and there was a mild (mild, people, mild!) criticism given to selection of studies, but still, the study helped me feel more comfortable that nutritionists haven’t ‘black-balled’ milk, and neither will I.

    Wuthrich B, Schmid A, Walther B, Sieber R. Milk consumption does not lead to mucus production or occurrence of asthma. J Am Coll Nutr 2005;24(6 Suppl):547S – 55S.

    The conclusions are as follows:
    (summary and conclusions from the literature review):
    The belief that milk consumption leads to an increased mucus production is present among some members of the public. The following conclusions can be drawn from the results of the different investigations:

    1. People who believe that milk increases mucus formation are more likely to report changes in sensory perceptions related to mucus after drinking milk than those who do not hold the same belief.

    2. In a double blind trial, symptoms of increased mucus formation were detected by healthy adults after consumption of both cows’ milk and a non-milk beverage with similar sensory properties.

    3. Furthermore, persons who were convinced of mucus formation due to milk consumption showed more respiratory symptoms. It is possible that aggregation after mixing of an emulsion such as milk with saliva can partly explain this sensation.

    According to different investigations the consumption of milk does not seem to exacerbate the symptoms of asthma and a relationship between milk consumption and the occurrence of asthma cannot be established. However, there are a few cases documented in which people with a cow’s milk allergy presented with asthma-like symptoms.

    (my comment below)
    Further…my concerns were addressed as well (read below). I will be drinking milk, eating yogurt, cheese, and consuming my kale smoothie! Even, so…I will still struggle to reach my goals for 1200mg of calcium and 71g of protein per day! Sheesh!

    below: Other Findings of the study

    According to Australian studies, subjects perceived some parameters of mucus production to change after consumption of milk and soy-based beverages, but these effects were not specific to cows’ milk because the soy-based milk drink with similar sensory characteristics produced the same changes.

    In individuals inoculated with the common cold virus, milk intake was not associated with increased nasal secretions, symptoms of cough, nose symptoms or congestion.

    Individuals who believe in the mucus and milk theory report more respiratory symptoms after drinking milk.

    In some types of alternative medicine, people with bronchial asthma are advised not to eat mucus-forming foods, especially all kinds of dairy products.

    In rare cases asthma can occur in patients with confirmed food allergy against cow’s milk proteins.

    People with asthma are sometimes advised to abstain from the consumption of dairy products, but research shows that consumption of milk does not significantly change various lung function parameters.

    Limiting dairy food consumption can lead to low intake of many nutrients, including calcium.

    (study findings above; my comment below)

    I really feel it is hard to separate fact from hype and misinformation from those with just enough information or interest to be pretty dangerous (this goes for those in my field too). The truth is that nutrition is still an early science where correlation remains king. We still have much to learn. And I do not disagree that there are other ways to get calcium and protein, but neither will I denigrate it to a “harmful” or even “neutral” food. Not just yet anyway…

    And despite Matt’s choice of language; he does have a point about Vivian’s failure to respond. However, another commenter urges to prove the superfood status of milk. I champion anyone to find that article; I would really like to read it and more on the “proven” bioavailability of milk. –That’s what I would really like to know more about.


  71. an apple a day clinical psychologist December 9, 2013, 9:18 pm

    According to Australian studies, subjects perceived some parameters of mucus production to change after consumption of milk and soy-based beverages, but these effects were not specific to cows’ milk because the soy-based milk drink with similar sensory characteristics produced the same changes.

    In individuals inoculated with the common cold virus, milk intake was not associated with increased nasal secretions, symptoms of cough, nose symptoms or congestion.

    Individuals who believe in the mucus and milk theory report more respiratory symptoms after drinking milk.

    In some types of alternative medicine, people with bronchial asthma are advised not to eat mucus-forming foods, especially all kinds of dairy products.

    In rare cases asthma can occur in patients with confirmed food allergy against cow’s milk proteins.

    People with asthma are sometimes advised to abstain from the consumption of dairy products, but research shows that consumption of milk does not significantly change various lung function parameters.

    Limiting dairy food consumption can lead to low intake of many nutrients, including calcium.

    Author Conclusion:
    The belief that milk consumption leads to an increased mucus production is present among some members of the public. The following conclusions can be drawn from the results of the different investigations:

    1. People who believe that milk increases mucus formation are more likely to report changes in sensory perceptions related to mucus after drinking milk than those who do not hold the same belief.

    2. In a double blind trial, symptoms of increased mucus formation were detected by healthy adults after consumption of both cows’ milk and a non-milk beverage with similar sensory properties.

    3. Furthermore, persons who were convinced of mucus formation due to milk consumption showed more respiratory symptoms. It is possible that aggregation after mixing of an emulsion such as milk with saliva can partly explain this sensation.

    According to different investigations the consumption of milk does not seem to exacerbate the symptoms of asthma and a relationship between milk consumption and the occurrence of asthma cannot be established. However, there are a few cases documented in which people with a cow’s milk allergy presented with asthma-like symptoms.

    • Rosalie December 26, 2013, 4:00 am

      Did it ever occur to you that these people might believe that it increases mucus precisely because it does? Because that is their experience, and it actually does for them? That study proves nothing. Use logic. There is a reason these people believe it increases mucus.

  72. Charlotte December 6, 2013, 3:44 pm

    I am a skeptic, I don’t know what to believe, but I tend to be wary correlational tests being used as “proof” of one thing or another. Remember the age old saying: Correlation DOES NOT mean causation.

    Here are a couple of snippets from the article that bothered me:

    “Consumption of dairy products, particularly at age 20 years, was associated with an increased risk of hip fracture in old age”

    This simply means that there is a RELATIONSHIP between the number of hip fractures and the amount of milk consumed. From this data, you CANNOT conclude that drinking milk causes hip fracture in old age. There could very well be a third confounding variable that they are not accounting for.

    “And the 12 year long Harvard Nurses’ Health Study found that those who consumed the most calcium from dairy foods broke more bones than those who rarely drank milk.”

    This doesn’t mean that the milk made their bones more fragile. That would be implying causation, and we all know correlational studies can’t do that.

    “These data do not support the hypothesis that higher consumption of milk or other food sources of calcium by adult women protects against hip or forearm fractures.”

    This study’s conclusion is WRONG. The hypothesis is : “higher consumption of milk or other food sources of calcium by adult women protects against hip or forearm fractures.” A correlational study CANNOT address this hypothesis. It cannot prove that one thing protects another thing, it can only show ASSOCIATIONS. Technically, the hypothesis should be “higher consumption of milk or other food sources of calcium by adult women is NEGATIVELY ASSOCIATED with hip or forearm fractures.”

    There are TONS of correlational studies that are pretty much meaningless. A common example is “taller people are associated with higher levels of happiness”. There is nothing you can really conclude from this besides the fact that there is an ASSOCIATION. Does being tall make you happy? Does being happy make you tall? A correlational test cannot answer that for you. There are MANY other factors that are related to happiness and being tall is just one of them. It would be INCORRECT for me to conclude that being tall makes you happy.

    Long story short, you cannot make assumptions from correlational tests. They are only helpful for scientists to decide whether to further investigate relationships between two variables. Correlation DOES NOT MEAN CAUSATION.

    Remember that just because a study is published, it does not mean that there aren’t any mistakes, confounding factors, biases, etc. Educate yourself on different test analyses and the kinds of conclusions you can make from them.

    • erm April 14, 2014, 8:48 pm

      Thank you! One of just a handful of sane people here who actually knows smth about scientific studies!

  73. Regina December 2, 2013, 9:20 pm

    It seems that most of the “don’t believe this article” comments are not from people who have been diagnosed with osteoporosis, so why are they even reading this? It looks to me like someone directed them to the article, hoping to discredit it. I was once told by my ob/gyn that all post-menopausal women should take a calcium supplement, and I began having heart palpitations, which stopped when I discontinued their use. Another doctor told me to cut way back or even stop dairy, for many of the reasons given here. my husband quit drinking milk and he stopped snoring because he stopped having issues with mucous, which dairy causes. Check out Kymberly Snyder’s “Beauty Detox Solution” (she is a clinical nutritionist) and “The Calcium Lie” by Robert Thompson, M.D., and see what THEY have to say about milk consumption. The proof is out there. I’m strongly considering starting the SaveOurBones program. I’m convinced that this is a strong program that can help me fight the osteoporosis I have recently been diagnosed with.

  74. Josh December 2, 2013, 8:13 pm

    You can debate as much as you want but if milk is beneficial and does not have the negative acidifying effects that are proposed then the statistics are incorrect, it also means that our body’s are comfortable processing cow’s milk which we know to be false as our body builds a tolerance towards milk. We also know there is a vast number of people intolerant to dairy and lactose, I am unaware of intolerance to vegetables which we were designed to eat so it would seem likely there is nothing wrong with the person with the intolerance but simply with the common diet.

  75. Dan MD December 2, 2013, 2:39 pm

    I’ve been a doctor for 27 years. I’ve studied here in the US and abroad.
    This article is nonsense. Humans have been drinking cows milk for a very VERY long time. Somebody is lactose intolerant and they say milk is bad?
    Every person reading this should know this person is a quack.
    They shouldn’t be put down tho. Made to shut up and everybody know they are badly informed.
    Milk is very healthy. They only it is bad is if you have a aversion to it.
    So drink a lot of milk.

    • K February 1, 2014, 12:47 pm

      Thank you, random internet Doctor, what would we do without your opinion

    • Kendal January 8, 2014, 5:33 pm

      I notice beneficial changes when I cut dairy out of my diet. I’m not lactose intolerant and have no other health issues, but things I thought were normal like killer monthly cramps go away without dairy. I’m definitely not going to be drinking a lot of milk….
      And just because humans do something for a long time doesn’t make it good for us….

    • STFU December 18, 2013, 11:12 am

      The fact you’re a doctor doesn’t make you a nutrion expert. As i recall correctly, doctors all around the world is given app. 30 hours of lecture in human nutrion. Never take nutritional advice from a doctor. EVER.

    • Neva December 15, 2013, 11:11 pm

      Sure, drink plenty of milk and become your regular client. LOL

    • NM December 7, 2013, 8:42 pm

      Since when does being a doctor equal being an expert on milk? Have you studied it? Do you have any idea what you’re talking about? The obvious statement: ‘humans have been drinking milk for thousands of years’…ya…AND? Does that make it okay? Please. Dig a little deeper. Pull out all the stops and dazzle us with your information, doctor.

    • Andrew December 2, 2013, 5:15 pm

      Being a doctor makes you an expert on THIS subject? There is extensive science on this subject widely available for anyone to see.

      • Regina December 2, 2013, 9:23 pm

        If DanMD is so sure of his comments, why didn’t he share his actual identity along with the research he has that proves milk consumption is ok and healthy for everyone? Come on, Dan MD, tell us.

        • Tina December 6, 2013, 11:32 am

          He likely works in the dairy industry.

  76. Henry Kataoka November 30, 2013, 1:58 am

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  77. Karl November 28, 2013, 9:55 am

    Does milk have conjugated linoleic acids? Those are suppose to be healthy to be bones, am I right or wrong?

  78. sara November 24, 2013, 1:44 am

    As someone who experienced how drinking cow’s milk can damage the human body, I can’t thank enough to the author for spreading the word. Milk and dairy industries and their lobbies are so powerful, they don’t let this information reach the masses.

  79. STeve November 21, 2013, 5:09 pm

    Such a wrong article. While milk may not be the best source, there is no reason to be so negative about it.

    ALL extremes are bad.

  80. martene November 21, 2013, 1:36 am

    Do you have any thoughts on organic oat milk?

  81. Joe November 20, 2013, 11:48 am

    Whoever wrote this article should be put down, or at least put into pasture. All they wanted to do was to pull a bunch of BS and try to scare the public. Why do you think infants have milk? Because it is a highly nutritive source of vitamins, protein, and calcium. Proteins are made of amino acids. They are not acidifying in the human body. Proteins are proteins and they are ALL made from the same stuff. I hate reading this completely uninformative BS. People, read a biology book!!!!!

    • Moga November 26, 2013, 11:15 am

      Unless you are an expert on the subject, and has been doing extensive research on this particular subject (which does not sound like by this comment) you are in the completely wrong mind to come here and say someone should be put down for writing such an article, buddy.
      Is ignorant people like you who will drive this world into its grave, and is not until all natural resources are gone that people will realize.
      Keep on drinking your cow milk, keep you mouth shut until you have something significant to say. Maybe when you get your bone disease you will have time to read that biology book.

    • wayne November 24, 2013, 12:55 am

      They specifically say the cow milk is different than human milk. Human milk is what infants should be drinking. Not all proteins are the same. they are lots of differing attributes when comparing things like soy, whey, and casein protein. Besides, I do not think they are singling out the protein as the bad thing, but the cow milk in general that is acidifying. There are also several broad studies specifically referenced so you can feel free to check them. scare tactics usually use vague references. I believe this article to be a good representation for the argument against cow milk.

  82. Jan November 19, 2013, 7:23 pm

    I’ve been vegetarian for 25 years, consuming very little milk&dairy products, healthy diet with probably more than the average consumption of fruit and vegetables. However I’ve just been diagnosed with osteoporosis -3.1 hip density. I’ve also taken vitamin D for about 6 years. I’ve been advised to take the generic equivalent of Fosomax. My mother had osteoporosis so genetics could have played a part.
    I would like to go on the Saveourbones diet but my bmi (19) only just creeps into the ‘normal’ range so I can’t afford to start losing weight. I am quite confused at the moment, wondering just what to do for the best.

  83. Harry November 17, 2013, 10:29 am

    Excellent article on dangers of acidic animal protein. As an alternative, you mention almond milk. I have been using almond milk every morning for the nutritional benefits. I now find now that Phylates in nuts and seeds, which are not digestible by humans, will bind with minerals and other nutrients in the stomach and cause those nutrients to be passed, possibly leading to mineral deficiencies. After the body has disbursed nutrients from food, tossing back a handful of almonds as a snack probably is a good thing, but using almond milk in addition to other foods(like my bowl of oatmeal, strawberries, blueberries, flaxseed, etc) may be counter-productive. Can you comment on that and/or provide an alternative to the alternative?

    Thanks again for the excellent article.

    • Jihye November 30, 2013, 2:40 am

      How about Coconut milk?!!!

      • Lorenzo December 12, 2013, 8:25 am

        Yes! This was the best question yet!

  84. Donna November 16, 2013, 11:10 pm

    Thanks for getting this info out, Vivian. (Wish you could eliminate the ranting from the angry know-nothings above.) The Harvard School of Public Health has done studies that back up what you are saying about milk being bad for bone health. Incidentally, the sugar alcohol, xylitol, is actually alkalinizing in the body and some studies indicate that it is also good for bone health. I also use almond milk and it’s very easy to make (and so much healthier than those on the market). Just blend 1 cup almonds (best to remove skins if you can) with 3 cups water and strain through a nut bag. I use a bit of xylitol to give it that touch of sweetness that makes it taste more like milk.

  85. Marc November 16, 2013, 9:42 pm

    Hello everyone,

    There is a very good book on nutrition called ‘The China Study’ by T. Colin Campbell MD.

    It has a very interesting chapter about milk.


  86. James November 15, 2013, 1:20 pm

    This is complete bullshit. Your body doesn’t take calcium from your bones to neutalize acids. Your kidneys regulate your bodies acid content. When you consume allot of acidifying foods the acid is buffered from bicarbonate ions in the blood. Your kidneys then produce more bicarbonate ions back into the blood. There is no involvment from the bones whatsoever. This entire article is psudoscience. The statistics showed a correlation between high dairy consuption and osteoperosis. It’s flawed logic to assume that dairy is the cause. Correlation does not equal causation. And you say avoid milk because it’s a processed food? What the hell is almond milk then? Do you milk almond trees? No it’s a proccessed food.

    • rolling my eyes at James December 7, 2013, 8:30 am

      Actually, James, you can make your own almond milk at home very simply and quickly. Watch a YouTube video if you’d like. I assume you are intelligent enough to look that up? You simply soak raw almonds overnight in water, pulse them in a blender, put in a “nutbag”, which is basically a cloth strainer, then pour the liquid in a container and store. Et voila, homemade, unprocessed almond milk. Dry out the solids in the bag and you have almond flour. Or ya, if you want, you can go buy the highly processed stuff at the store that has added flavors, sweeteners, preservatives, thickeners, and so on andiso forth.

      Just like I can take a little bit of time to make my own homemade yogurt or you can go buy some Dora the Explorer brightly colored crazily flavored “yogurt” if you’re so inclined.

      You’re obviously an expert on processed food.

    • Brad November 26, 2013, 9:53 am

      My thoughts exactly! Thank you so much, I was laughing about how absurd this article was.

  87. Carl November 14, 2013, 11:21 am

    Study that directly contradicts what you’re writing.

    • Rob November 27, 2013, 9:30 am

      Gee look, the article is published by the government who would love for you to keep supporting the dairy and medical industries.

      • Sean December 3, 2013, 1:14 pm

        Nope, not published by the government. Just published on PubMed, which is the worlds most popular search engine for all scientific articles and research.

  88. Clay Shentrup November 11, 2013, 7:04 am

    Grammatical error:
    “cow’s milk contains on average three times the amount of protein than human milk”

    Replace “than” with “as”.

  89. Clare November 11, 2013, 5:20 am

    This is interesting, I wish you had posted more references though!
    The only thing that makes me skeptical a part from the lack of references is my own experience. When I was 14 I fell over snowboarding and fractured my wrist. When I had an X-ray it showed that only one of my bones had cracked and the other had BENT, the doctor was very surprised and said with the force I had fallen over with to cause the crack in the outer wrist bone (sorry not sure of the precise names) that it was very uncommon for the inner bone to not have a full break or at least a crack. He then questioned me about my diet and I told him how much milk I drink (about 4-5 glasses a day average) and he said that that explained it, I remember this so well, he said that that amount of consumption was what made my bones so strong and was why my inner bone bent instead of breaking/cracking. In the end it was actually detrimental that it bent because it made it harder/longer to heal than if it had broken, but still how could this have happened to me when I drink so much milk if milk actually weakens your bones?!

    • Don Mega November 13, 2013, 5:32 am

      u recovered quick because u were still young. genetic differences also play a role, perhaps especially strong bones. we’re talking about older people here, who have perhaps already experienced problems with bones. milk is not the cure

  90. Cleveland E. Norton Jr. November 6, 2013, 12:12 pm

    To set the record straight, for AnimalsareGreat: Vanilla ice cream is made from the anal glands of a beaver, and a commercial chocolate cake is loaded with sugar,high fructose corn syrup and several hydrogenated oils.The frosting has even more sugar. Go ahead and check this.It will be 100% correct!

  91. Joe November 5, 2013, 5:45 am

    Vivian Goldschmidt why do you wear a white coat? Are you trying to look like a doctor and look important enough to dictate? Because i dont see a Dr in front of your name . . .

  92. Wize1 November 5, 2013, 12:47 am

    You didn’t mention that milk has way too much sugar in it, too. No one ever mentions that. It wasn’t until I went on a serious diet that I actually read the milk jug and was shocked. About 12 grams of carbohydrates and sugar. Basically half that of a soda. No one would think that half of a soda with added protein and calcium was healthy… I had to switch to sugar free coconut milk in my protein shakes, instead. And yes, skim milk has the same carbs and sugar as whole milk.

    • Kanwar December 17, 2013, 2:23 pm

      umm.. Soda’s contain way more sugars than that. You are certainly mistaken. And the calorie count of a jar of milk is very less, without added sugars, and that amount is generally used up in daily activities.

      • Blue January 2, 2014, 11:49 pm

        Kanwar. The milk in the stores today very well does have added sugars in it and just last year the milk industry was trying to get approved to add asparthame and make it an ingredient that didnt have to be labeled. Look it up.

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  94. Jessica November 1, 2013, 11:23 pm

    I love the fact that you mentioned all animal species feed their young milk and then are weened from milk! Hello people…. Hey I’m a Christian and American. You can drink what you like. However, a little bit of common sense goes a long way. Breast milk is for baby humans, and animal milk is for baby animals. My little one is allergic to milk protein and since I’m nursing I had to eliminate all dairy. Personally I have never felt better in my entire life, and not to mention I’m losing this baby weight;).

  95. Ken November 1, 2013, 4:30 pm

    This article is completely flat-out wrong.

    Milk is acidic? Are you an idiot?

    • alex November 2, 2013, 3:00 am

      Yes you are, she doesn’t say milk is acidic. SHe says it creates an acidic environment in your body, which is true. When you take in animal protein your body increases the amount of acid in your stomach to help break it down more quickly. This leaves your body in an acidic state. It needs to be alkaline so it leaches calcium from your bones, thus her statement “milk is bad for you”…

      • balanced opinion November 7, 2013, 10:21 am

        what a load of rubbish, acid in the stomach has nothing to do with body PH levels. This article is full of absolute lies and some comments have obviously been posted by staff. You should be ashamed of spreading such nonsense

        • chris January 17, 2014, 12:51 am

          Well thought out, articulated response. I can see why you go by the alias “balanced opinion”. It may take me a while to peruse all the evidence you’ve listed, but bare with me. I’ll get there.

        • Blue January 2, 2014, 11:52 pm

          Yes it does. I was hospitaled recently for that and had to stay in the hospital 4 days

  96. a fool October 31, 2013, 7:51 pm

    This article is absolutely retarded and you should feel bad for spreading new age bs concepts

    • K February 1, 2014, 12:51 pm

      Your name really suits you, has anyone ever told you that before?

  97. jessica October 30, 2013, 7:24 pm

    also consider the bioaccumulation of radiation fallout from fukushima

  98. jessica October 30, 2013, 7:11 pm

    Thank you for this! Nothing I haven’t herd before but its nice to know people are waking up. To all those who refuse to wake up and get angery at people who try to show you truth.. just keep drinking your milk, you deserve it.. although your poor children have no choice :(

    • dude November 10, 2013, 3:25 pm

      Nothing I haven’t “herd”. HA! I get it! Herd! lol

  99. Jim October 28, 2013, 7:10 pm

    What is wrong with feminist women these days and their outright hatred for being a woman?

    Jesus Christ, why am I not surprised to hear yet another woman slamming the most important, complete, and nourishing drink in nature (outside of water)?

    Which just happens to be a feminine drink as it is wholly produced by the female species?

    Who or what died and made milk healthy only because of its calcium content? Common sense?

    Milk is the most complete, complex food substance in nature. And only a self-hating feminist would not take pride in this fact.

    It’s an insult to logic to compare milk to an almond (… please drink all the Breeze almond milk that you want — it’s delicious — just don’t be surprised that a straight-thinking male is utterly repulsed by what you’re saying).

    • Rob November 27, 2013, 9:36 am

      Jim, why don’t you just crawl underneath a cow, jam an udder in your mouth and get your milk that way? Then maybe you would see how ridiculous it is for a human to be drinking milk from another species. Try it on a dog or cat, their milk is perfect too right?

    • DeeDee November 19, 2013, 9:10 pm

      I’m a feminist, and wouldn’t touch the stuff. And because I am a woman, and a mother, and one that breastfed my children, I fully comprehend the cruelty and absolute absurdity that goes along with ‘milk’. Why would you think that women would be more sympathetic to the dairy ‘industry’? I think women are more sympathetic to the poor mama cow, a mama that has had her baby taken away from her, a mama, that very likely has mastitis, which is a VERY painful breast infection, and a mama that cries and cries and cries for her baby, as she herself is likely sent to slaughter. ALL Mother’s milk is specifically ‘designed’ for her particular baby. There is no reason at all why we should need to nurse cross species, and still be nursing into adulthood.

    • スパイダーマン October 29, 2013, 5:01 pm

      You sound like you have mommy issues.

      • K February 1, 2014, 12:54 pm


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    • Jeff October 29, 2013, 11:51 am

      Respectfully Jim,

      the world was once flat. A little research is all it takes. Or are you tied to the farming industry ? 100 million pus cells per glass was more than enough for me. 45% increased risk of hip fracture in post-menopausal women (Nurses’ Health Study) in the milk drinking group, should also be more than enough, that “Got milk?” = “Got osteoporosis”. No other mammal drinks another species milk. When you think about it, it’s ‘udderly’ gross

      • Herb November 29, 2013, 12:59 am

        No other species cooks food either. How is your raw diet? If you think humans aren’t different than other species then there is your first problem.

      • Javier October 30, 2013, 4:51 am

        Just because no-one has said it yet, THANK YOU for that pun.

  100. Sean Welch October 26, 2013, 4:22 pm

    I would just like to point out that your arguement on the hormones and antibiotics that cows are injected with is completely flawed. You see, the cows have to be INJECTED with them. These things can’t be taken oraly, which means it can’t be transferred oraly. Therefore the antibiotics and hormones they cows are injected with could not have any effect on the human health.

    • Marcus October 30, 2013, 9:53 pm

      Another uneducated comment. If you are injected with anything, it then goes into your blood stream which then is routed to the rest of your body. Injecting something is simply a more direct way to enter your body vs. digestion. When you eat something it is digested then enters your blood stream. So basically injection does the same thing except stronger. look it up for hells sakes. I cant believe the stupidity of people sometimes, Jesus Christ….

      • Dan October 31, 2013, 12:17 pm

        Not always the case. Some medications are orally inactive and are neutralized by saliva or stomach contents. Some things can only be taken in through injections.

        That being said I am against the hormones….

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