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Debunking The Milk Myth: Why Milk Is Bad For You And Your Bones


Did you know that in Medieval England parents would tie rabbits’ feet around their babies’ necks to ward off illness? Doctors would also spit on wounds because saliva was believed to have healing properties.

Indeed, history is replete with unfounded health beliefs, and to everyone’s detriment, the milk myth is among the most tenacious.

Milk is much more than just a drink; it’s a cultural phenomenon that can be traced back thousands of years. And still today, the milk myth resonates loud and clear: in 2001, the average American child consumed 104 quarts of cow’s milk.

Milk depletes the calcium from your bones

The milk myth has spread around the world based on the flawed belief that this protein and calcium-rich drink is essential to support good overall health and bone health in particular at any age. It is easy to understand that the confusion about milk’s imaginary benefits stems from the fact that it contains calcium – around 300 mg per cup.

But many scientific studies have shown an assortment of detrimental health effects directly linked to milk consumption. And the most surprising link is that not only do we barely absorb the calcium in cow’s milk (especially if pasteurized), but to make matters worse, it actually increases calcium loss from the bones. What an irony this is!

Here’s how it happens. Like all animal protein, milk acidifies the body pH which in turn triggers a biological correction. You see, calcium is an excellent acid neutralizer and the biggest storage of calcium in the body is – you guessed it… in the bones. So the very same calcium that our bones need to stay strong is utilized to neutralize the acidifying effect of milk. Once calcium is pulled out of the bones, it leaves the body via the urine, so that the surprising net result after this is an actual calcium deficit.

Knowing this, you’ll understand why statistics show that countries with the lowest consumption of dairy products also have the lowest fracture incidence in their population (there’s more on this later).

But the sad truth is that most mainstream health practitioners ignore these proven facts. I know it firsthand because when I was diagnosed with osteoporosis, my doctor recommended that I drink lots of milk in addition to taking Fosamax.

Fortunately, I did neither, because I knew that…

Cow’s milk is custom-designed for calves

Thanks to our creative ingenuity and perhaps related to our ancient survival needs, we adopted the dubious habit of drinking another species’ milk. Nobody can dispute that cow’s milk is an excellent food source for calves. Weighing around 100 pounds at birth, a calf typically gains approximately eight times its weight by the time it is weaned. But unlike humans, once calves are weaned, they never drink milk again. And the same applies to every mammalian species on this planet.

Also, each mammalian species has its own “designer” milk, and cow’s milk is no exception. For example, cow’s milk contains on average three times the amount of protein than human milk which creates metabolic disturbances in humans that have detrimental bone health consequences.

It’s important to bear in mind that mother’s milk is excellent nourishment for human babies, but its composition is very different from cow’s milk.

Scientific studies show that milk increases fracture risk

Many scientific studies contradict the conventional wisdom that milk and dairy consumption help reduce osteoporotic fractures. Surprisingly, studies demonstrating that milk and dairy products actually fail to protect bones from fractures outnumber studies that prove otherwise. Even drinking milk from a young age does not protect against future fracture risk but actually increases it. Shattering the “savings account” calcium theory, Cumming and Klineberg report their study findings as follows:

“Consumption of dairy products, particularly at age 20 years, was associated with an increased risk of hip fracture in old age. (“Case-Control Study of Risk Factors for Hip Fractures in the Elderly”. American Journal of Epidemiology. Vol. 139, No. 5, 1994).

And the 12 year long Harvard Nurses’ Health Study found that those who consumed the most calcium from dairy foods broke more bones than those who rarely drank milk. This is a broad study based on 77,761 women aged 34 through 59 years of age.

In the authors’ own words:

“These data do not support the hypothesis that higher consumption of milk or other food sources of calcium by adult women protects against hip or forearm fractures.” (Source: Feskanich D, Willett WC, Stampfer MJ, Colditz GA. Milk, dietary calcium, and bone fractures in women: a 12-year prospective study. American Journal of Public Health. 1997).

Shocking statistics ignored by mainstream medicine

In the Save Our Bones Program one of the topics I discuss is the complete disregard of scientific evidence that discredits milk and dairy products as the best source of calcium.

One exception is Amy Lanou Ph.D., nutrition director for the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine in Washington, D.C., who states that:

“The countries with the highest rates of osteoporosis are the ones where people drink the most milk and have the most calcium in their diets. The connection between calcium consumption and bone health is actually very weak, and the connection between dairy consumption and bone health is almost nonexistent.”

Surprised? You shouldn’t be, because as I mentioned earlier in this article…

Milk is an acidifying animal protein

Like any other animal derived protein-rich food, milk has a positive potential renal acid load (PRAL) which triggers a protective biological reaction to neutralize all the damaging acidic protein before it reaches the kidneys.

The body is designed for survival, so it sacrifices bone density to protect the kidneys and urinary tract because the latter are essential to survival. And the most readily available source of acid neutralizer is in the bones. So even though milk contains calcium, it ends up sapping your bones of that crucial mineral. But that’s not all because…

Today’s milk is a processed food

Until the end of the 19th century in Europe and the beginning of the 20th century in the US, milk was consumed unpasteurized or raw. Later on, homogenization became the industry’s standard. These processes further alter milk’s chemistry and actually increase its detrimental acidifying effects.

Raw milk advocates claim that if cow’s milk is left “as is” it is a healthy and wholesome drink. It is true that raw milk is less acidifying than processed milk and that pasteurization and homogenization may cause a long list of digestive and other health problems, but I still don’t recommend drinking any kind of cow’s milk.

Nowadays, milking cows are given antibiotics and most are also injected with a genetically engineered form of bovine growth hormone (rBGH). A man-made or synthetic hormone used to artificially increase milk production, rBGH also increases blood levels of the insulin-growth factor 1 (IGF-1) in those who drink it. And higher levels of IGF-1 are linked to several cancers.

This should not be ignored, especially in view of recent information by Samuel Epstein, MD, Professor of Environmental Medicine at the University of Illinois School of Public Health, and Chairman of the Cancer Prevention Coalition. In an article titled “Monsanto’s Hormonal Milk Poses Serious Risks of Breast Cancer, Besides Other Cancers” (, June 21, 1998) Dr. Epstein concludes that:

“Drinking rBGH milk would thus be expected to significantly increase IGF-1 blood levels and consequently to increase risks of developing breast cancer and promoting its invasiveness.”

Even though organic milk is from cows that are not given antibiotics or rBHG, if you truly care about your bone health and your overall health, you should…

Avoid drinking cow’s milk

As I explain in the Save Our Bones Program and contrary to mainstream recommendations, drinking milk and eating lots of dairy products are not the answer to reversing osteoporosis. And while in the Save Our Bones Program no food is completely off limits, I strongly recommend that you explore the different milk substitute options that I will list for you here.

But first, I’d like to clarify that unsweetened fermented or cultured dairy products such as yogurt, kefir, and sour cream are acid neutral. Yogurt in particular is chock-full of beneficial qualities. As is the case with milk, organic yogurt does not have rBGH, but even several of the most well-known yogurt brands have stopped using the bovine growth hormone (rBGH). You should call your favorite yogurt company to confirm. One more clarification: when I say unsweetened I mean without sugar or any artificial sweetener. However, you can add honey or stevia, a zero calorie plant-derived sweetener that is delicious and alkalizing as well. I like to carry around stevia packets in my purse so that I’m always able to sweeten food or drinks when I’m on the go.

The best milk substitutes

My favorite milk substitute is unsweetened almond milk, not only because it is alkalizing (as almonds are), but also because it’s delicious and tastes very similar to milk. I even cook with it!

If almond milk is hard to get, you can also try rice or soy milk. I strongly suggest consuming only organic soy milk to insure it’s not made with genetically modified soy. There is also some controversy about unfermented soy products, so try to use it in moderation.

What Else Haven’t They Told You?

What else have you been told about bone health by your doctor or other “experts” that is flat out wrong? What other “facts” (like drinking milk does a body good) are keeping you from optimal health?

Myths like these are a big reason I created the Save Our Bones Program. To give you the straight scoop on how to deal with osteoporosis the natural way.

I can help you take control of your future.

Learn more about the Save Our Bones Program here →

And remember, if you ever hear someone ask “Got milk?” smile and think to yourself “No, because I know better!”

And as always, I’d love to hear your thoughts. Share them with me and the rest of our community by leaving a comment below.

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  1. William July 20, 2014, 10:34 am

    A medical dr told you to drink milk and you didn’t listen to him. That’s where I stopped reading this article.

  2. Tempest July 17, 2014, 6:55 pm

    Great article. I admire your desire for true health. Also, enjoy your writing style.

  3. Jace July 15, 2014, 5:35 am

    Milk is fine. Scientific rebuttal to all this crap is here:
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    There are some incredible tales of drama on this comment board. A lot of Holier-than-though individuals. Also a lot of people claiming to be professionals – over the internet – and requesting others "get an education" as an argument.

    I think a lot of vegans don't have enough to do. Honestly. But that's just my opinion, educated, or uneducated. Anyhow, take a look at the rebuttal above ^, and stop preaching this drama about milk killing you, it's laughable.

  4. James Sherlock July 13, 2014, 8:33 pm

    This author is either an idiot or wilfully deceptive. She cherry picks her resources and flat out ignores portions of the research to fit her goals. For example, her quote from one of her many (actually, only one) studies ‘Consumption of dairy products, particularly at age
    20 years, was associated with an increased risk of hip fracture in old age…’ is taken from the abstract of the article, the last sentence of which is, ‘ Some of the results of this study were unanticipated
    and may be due to chance or bias.’

    To this end, the author’s of the study make this statement in the discussion, ‘However, the quality of recalled
    data on dairy products and physical activity
    is questionable (25, 27-30, 32)’

    If you are looking for information on the pros and cons of milk consumption, I suggest the Harvard School of Public health

    • Ryder July 17, 2014, 11:55 pm

      You should re-read the section of the Harvard post you shared under “Should You Get Calcium from Milk?”.

      Milk is good for no one except little baby cows.

  5. Grace July 13, 2014, 2:28 am

    Milk is not good for your bone health.
    20 years ago, one of my friends in her mid 40s told me that she was drinking more milk daily to prevent bone loss. By then, my families and I have been a vegetarian for two years. To be sure to have our 5 and 7 years old daughters enough nutrition, we did a lot researches. One of them was a video called “Diet For A New America”. We learned dairy products are not good for health. Especially it’s not good for bone health. So I shared that information to her. But she wasn’t convinced since it’s against what we had been taught. One or two years later, she told me she was on medication to treat her osteoporosis and she stopped drinking milk; instead she started drinking soy milk.

    22 years past, we have been very happy about our decision to become vegetarians. My husband once had very serious allergy for several years, after being a vegan for one year, he’s no longer suffered. And we have hardly caught cold or flu.

    I would like to share this video which enlightened us a lot with you.

    Diet For A New America – Hosted by John Robbins

  6. Jodi July 6, 2014, 8:51 pm

    I want to preface this comment with, I’m not trying to start an argument or a comment war, but simply share my knowledge based on my reading of the literature.

    Besides the fact that the references from this article are from another blog article that references 20+ year old studies, this article contains a few other big mistakes. Plants do contain a lot of calcium, but unless you chew those plants into a paste and/or chew your cud like cows do, out body cannot break them down far enough to benefit from a significant portion of that calcium. We do not have the enzymes to break down most plant material, not that we can’t get tons of benefits from them. Plants also contain oxalates that render calcium non-water soluble, which it needs to be in order to be absorbed. If you eat 100 g of spinach which contains roughly 109 mg of calcium, you can only absorb 5 mg, that’s about 5%. If you drink 100 g of low fat milk which contains roughly 122 mg of calcium, you can absorb 37 mg, that’s about 30%. You are correct in saying that cheese and yogurts are better, as their bioavailability is higher, but plants are not a better source of calcium for humans than milk. Unless you’re lactose intolerant, you can absorb most of the calcium from milk and dairy products.

    There is a reason that nutritionists recommend supplementing calcium, heme-iron and vitamin B12 to a vegan diets, or recommend they become lacto-vegans or ovo-vegans because you cannot get these three nutrients from vegetables alone, and they are all essential to health. Heme-iron is ONLY found in animal products. Plants do contain non-heme iron which is also essential, but you need both to prevent anemia. B12 is also ONLY found in animal products, which is essential for prevent pernicious anemia. Calcium while found in a multitude of foods, is best absorbed from dairy products.

    You reference another blog article, another one of yours by the way, that says milk actually depletes are bone calcium by “acidifying the body pH” like any other animal protein. Yes proteins are acidic, but milk overall is basic in pH. You’re body does not pull calcium out of your bones to neutralize the “acid environment” caused by milk, because it does not cause an acid environment in the first place. Your body pulls calcium out of your bones under the stimulation of parathyroid hormone when the calcium serum level (calcium in your blood) is too low, which means you haven’t eaten enough calcium containing foods. Yes calcium is part of calcium bicarbonate which acts as a buffer in the blood stream, but drinking milk will not make your blood acidic and then need more to buffer it. While some underlying theories in this article are correct, they are being combined and misused to the point where they are now longer truths, but have become “Frankenstein” facts that fit the purpose of the author.

    It also sites a 20 year old study by Harvard that found the correlation that women who drank dairy products in their 20s had more fractures when they were older. It doesn’t control for any other factors, and correlation DOES NOT equal causation. More recent information from Harvard, based on more recent research ( still agrees that there is no significant correlation between calcium intake and osteoporosis, but it has been shown since that 20 year old study, that physical activity and pre-menopausal bone density has a greater effect on the development of osteoporosis and fractures. While you can’t necessarily say that milk can help prevent osteoporosis, you can still definitely not say that it causes you to lose your bone density.

    The referenced blog article also makes the case that milk is bad, but other dairy products are ok all on the basis of pH. The yogurt, cheese and sour cream contain the same proteins they said were acidic and bad because they are made from milk. If milk contains “bad” proteins, and dairy products are made from milk, then they will have the same “bad” proteins. It’s simple logic that is simply ignored. They say the processed milk can increase the risk of breast cancer, while I don’t know if these facts are correct, as cancer is a multifactorial disease, I can say that the evidence is not definitive. They also promote almond or soy milk, which in moderation I’m sure are perfectly fine. Soy products however, act as a phytoestrogen (substance that acts like a weak estrogen), breast cancer is stimulated by estrogen, so pumping your body full of stuff that can feed a specific type of cancer doesn’t seem like the best idea either. Soy based formula is not a good idea for babies as it blocks absorption of essential nutrients like magnesium (magnesium is important for muscle and bone health), iron (prevents anemia), calcium (wait, I though soy milk would fix this since apparently cow’s milk also prevents calcium absorption), and most importantly zinc. Zinc is essential for brain and nervous system development, a deficiency in zinc can eventually lead to a lower IQ. Also, flooding an infant boy’s system with these phytoestrogens can also cause developmental problems when they hit puberty.

    I’m sorry, but articles like these with half-truths and old facts that are written with the sole purpose of selling books and attracting consumers to start a program to “reverse osteoporosis” or “change their lives” are why the public has no idea what to put in their bodies. If people would simply read the literature for themselves, and not listen to people regurgitate “their version” of the information to them, while trying to sell them something, people would have a much better idea of what healthy living is.

    • Gabriela Jasso July 22, 2014, 8:02 am

      THANK YOU! Finally someone who thinks clearly as well. This article could have it’s truths here and there but to say that it is the reason for Calcium deficiency and that its totally bad for you is ridiculous. The hormones the animals are pumped with is one of the lead reasons to why milk has become something potentially bad for you. Not to mention anything in excess can have a negative effect but to confuse people and say that milk; the one thing you’re given from birth ( acknowledging that it is a different type of milk of new borns), is bad for you is misleading and untrue.

    • chris ockenden July 16, 2014, 4:32 am

      Wow a lot of experts here, as for the calcium leaching from your bones, there is plenty of proof of this happening and it does act acidic within your body (read the china study) watch knives over folks, look at the recent research and you will learn some stuff. I can pull evidence up for you now. I did not read the rest of the blog but as for milk being bad for you and leaching calcium this is TRUE

      • chris ockenden July 16, 2014, 4:37 am

        and as for your vegan call sorry but this simply isn’t true (ironically leading your post to have frankenstein facts) The only thing a vegan should worry about is b12 and this is found from bacteria, not the animals themselves. And apart from there being plenty of experimental evidence ( I know one person who is has been vegan for 30 years and supplements nothing and his blood tests are very good) and apart from that I myself have been vegan for 4 years and supplement only b12 as a precaution and my blood tests are great too.

  7. David July 3, 2014, 10:37 am

    I stopped drinking milking at around age 14. I skateboard taking slam after slam. Never broke a single bone in my body. At the very least you don’t need milk for strong bones

  8. Lauren Lund July 3, 2014, 9:59 am

    Why did the dairy industry substitute “Got Milk?” for the old “Milk Builds Strong Bones” slogan? Because they did their own studies to prove anti-milk groups were wrong and then, oops, found out the truth.

  9. alyssa June 28, 2014, 8:30 pm

    hello there
    do you have any sources that are more recent
    at least in the past 10 years?
    studies are being run on nutrition constantly so there has to be at least one

  10. Janice June 22, 2014, 7:52 pm

    I had trouble breastfeeding my baby so we used soy based infant formula instead. My husband and I have been using soy milk since we learned about this cow’s milk myths. My baby developed moderate to severe eczema at the age of 1.5 years, the Dr thought it might be a reaction to her soy milk formula so he recommended to change her milk to cow’s milk. I was hesitant but did it anyway and now that I have read this article I think I might change her milk again back to soy milk. :-)

    • Andrew July 9, 2014, 3:21 pm

      So you’ll take advice from what is essentially a blog post that is trying to sell you a book over your pediatrician’s advice? Good luck with that.

    • Katybug June 24, 2014, 8:26 pm

      Janice, I have a grandson that had severe eczema since birth, and it wasn’t until he was about 5 years old that his mom (my daughter) discovered that he was allergic to eggs & pork. When she cut those things out of his diet, the eczema went away. He was breast-fed, by the way, which is probably why he had it since birth. He is now 12, and has learned that there are certain foods he can & cannot have. He knows that even if he eats one cookie that has eggs in it, he will have a flare-up. He has learned that he can control it – he either avoids those foods, or he risks it & suffers the consequences. As for soy milk, I think the jury is still out on that one, so I avoid it just in case. I, myself buy almond milk or coconut milk. The almond milk is a little on the thicker side, with coconut milk looking more like 2% cow’s milk, and it tastes a little sweeter than the almond. (Just FYI) Hope that helps somehow, & that you find a solution… :-)

  11. RONNIE June 22, 2014, 7:16 am

    The cows milk humans drink which we know is of another species, and I can understand the reasons behind that thought of it not being good for us.

    But what about the meat we eat which is also from a different species?, or should we only eat meat of our own species, which is totally ridiculous!. And cannibalism!.

  12. RONNIE June 22, 2014, 6:55 am

    The cows milk humans drink which we know is of another species, and I can understand the reasons behind that thought.

    But what about the maet we eat which is also from a different species?, or should we only eat meat of our own species, which is totaly ridiculous!

    • Katybug June 22, 2014, 7:42 am

      Well, Ronnie – The China Study and Forks Over Knives address that issue (on meat). Read those first, and like I said: Do your own homework. Try going without it for a while & see if you feel better; have more energy, etc. If no difference, then I say eat up, Your body will let you know, IF you listen to it. But, if you get cancer, heart disease, diabetes or any other food-related illness, don’t say you weren’t warned. And, yes, they are FOOD-RELATED. Like obesity – (the majority) caused by eating too much of the wrong foods – who knew? Sheesh….it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure this stuff out, folks…Read the research, educate yourself on the subject, do your own experimentation, then come back & give me a more intelligent/educated conversation on the subject, please. Thank you for your reply. :-)

  13. Crystal June 19, 2014, 7:35 pm

    I left the comment before, but I would just like to reiterate that this article is not evidence based. If you want scientic, tested, information, you need to do the research on your own. I’m not sure why this article was written when the author knew she was mis-representing studies or presenting information without citing it. I’m assuming it stems from her own animal rights agenda.

    I started checking the journal articles citied here. Although the first study does say, “Consumption of diary products, particularly at age 20 years, was associated with an increase risk of hip fracture in old age,” you forgot to mention that the article goes on to say just a few sentences later that, “(s)ome of the results of this study were unanticipated and may be due to chance or bias. If confirmed by other studies, these results would challenge some current approaches to hip fracture prevention.” This article is from 1994. Other studies have not found similar results. If you look up journals linking dairy consumption with osteoporosis, all of them state a positive relationship between milk absorption and a decreased risk of osteoporosis. In fact, one article written in 2000 states that, “(o)f 52 investigator-controlled calcium intervention studies, all but two showed better bone balance at high intakes, or greater bone gain during growth, or reduced bone loss in the elderly, or reduced fracture risk” (Calcium, dairy products, and osteoporosis, Journal of the American College of Nutrition, 19,2). Don’t believe everything you read on the internet. I have yet to find replicated evidience-based studies showing milk consumption has negative health effects.

    • Katybug June 21, 2014, 8:55 pm

      For all of you skeptics out there: I say DRINK UP! It’s your body – do what you will to it. But, I will tell you this: I first heard of milk being bad for you after I was diagnosed with breast cancer 4 years ago, when I decided to do my own research as to why I got breast cancer & not one of my family members (mother or father’s side) have ever had it. This quest for answers led me to learn (among other things) that milk (i.e. dairy) was bad for you. I was skeptical too, just like you, so I decided to do my own experiment. At the time, I was also diagnosed as having osteopenia (borderline osteoporosis). After having gone through menopause, my bones had been aching – especially at night – to the point I couldn’t sleep at night. So, I cut dairy completely out of my diet, & within a week my bones stopped aching & I sleep all through the night – absolutely no problem. That’s been 3 years ago, & I’ve had no problems since. I also had a bone density test before, and one 2 years later, & I had no more bone loss during that 2 years without dairy. I take absolutely no medicine – I am a firm believer in preventive measures & natural cures. Hippocrates (the father of medicine) said years ago, “Let food be thy medicine.” Something else to think about: we are the ONLY species that drinks another species’ milk…kinda creepy when you really think about it. Another thing – doctors are like car mechanics – there are good ones & there are bad ones. Your doctor may have a certificate hanging on the wall, but he could have graduated last in his class. Besides, there is A LOT of research that backs this claim up & it is in the medical journals, but doctors (for whatever reason) don’t read their own journals. Also, they have almost no training on nutrition, AND they make TONS of money off of us sick people. Just ONE of my chemo treatments was $35,000.00. Big pharma (pharmaceuticals) is in on it, too. Notice how they seem to want everybody on drugs? You can’t go to a doctor without them wanting to prescribe something for you. Watch tv and see how many drug commercials there are on a daily basis. So, you wonder why the message isn’t getting out? $$$ Like the tobacco companies several years ago fought tooth & nail to keep us in the dark on tobacco causing cancer. When I was growing up, I didn’t know ANY kids that took meds regularly. How many kids do you know that’s taking something for ADD/ADHD, or allergies, or is diabetic today? Bottom line – don’t take the author of this article’s word for it, nor mine – do your own homework, like I did. BTW, sugar feeds cancer, so if you don’t want cancer, or if you’ve had it & don’t want it to come back -lay off the sugar. Raw, unfiltered honey is best. Also, lemons FIGHT cancer. Check it out for yourself. It is a fact that cancer cannot survive in an alkaline body – so you eat alkaline forming foods. The people I know whose cancer came back, did not change their lifestyle. If you keep doing the same thing, don’t expect different results. Find a GOOD doctor – one that will work WITH you -who is supportive of your ideas & beliefs. I know people who only listened to their doctors without question & they died. My mother was one of them. I’m not bashing all doctors. There are some really good ones out there, & I thank God for them -but, you just have to look for them. That’s the best advice I can give anybody – and it took me getting cancer to find this stuff out for myself – no one told me. That’s why I make it a point to get the word out when I have the opportunity. I wish you all the best! :-)

      • Dane July 8, 2014, 6:21 am

        But we aren’t the only species that drinks the milk of another. Unless you mean on purpose. Otherwise, there are plenty of examples of baby animals without their mother who are saved by feeding from the breast of a different species of animal.

      • Drinking milk right now July 6, 2014, 10:06 pm

        Now milk causes ADHD too!! Wow had no idea that milk can cause me to not produce enough neurotransmitters in my brain. I’d like to see the “research” you’re reading. Cancer is a multifactorial disease. You can not link it to one specific thing. Being on birth control pills for extended periods of time can increase your risk of breast cancer, eating too many soy products can increase your risk of breast cancer, not ever having a baby or not every breast feeding can increase your risk of breast cancer, hormone replacement therapy can increase your risk of breast cancer. Get my point?

        • laurie July 10, 2014, 10:07 pm

          i had triple negative ductile carcinoma in suti ……did 8 rounds of chemo, 30 rounds of radiation, 12 surgeries, never stopped drinking milk, eating meat, did cut out fried fods and ate less junk..have been in remission ( 5 years) from a cancer so aggressive that 7 weeks after a mastectomy it had returned ( found out by having to have mastectomy sight debrided due to infection) i have been in remission for 5 years…so i call your milk story well, whoever said that is a quack….oh and i see an oncologist who graduated from Stanford and did her residency at Johns Hopkins, she said to drink MORE milk to help my calcium deficiency….just saying… 2 cents as it were. Milk and my diet had nothing to do with it…cancer is just cancer, gets some, leaves others alone.

  14. Jay June 11, 2014, 12:22 pm

    you are all idiots. first of all YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BE VEGAN. and there is no such thing as all humans having the same teeth meaning something like, “humans have all flat teeth so we were born to eat plants because our teeth cant tear meat.” thats crazy!! everybody is born with a different set of teeth. Let me say that again for you pathetic plant eaters known as “vegans.” NO ONE HAS THE SAME SET OFJAW OR TEETH SIZE. which means, people who dont eat meat might not be able to open their jaw wide enough to chew the meat and tear it down as much as someone with a more wide opening of the mouth. another thing is you people compare ANIMALS TO HUMANS. unless you are comparing TWO humans who are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT your argument is invalid. you cant use two of the same thing for tests subjects because your results will not make any sense. AT ALL!! now heres where the ignorance and stupidity of, “Milk takes out calcium from your bones” makes me laugh. yes calcium does harden your bones, however over time and age with your body it goes away. this is common general knowledge!! you dont need science to figure this out. lastly, you all talk about. “dont buy milk anymore because its bad for you, and the corporate guys make all the money” take some advice from hard workers and educated business owners. GET OVER YOURSELVES!! The only thing this article proved was that some old man with this his illness he hates it so much that hes trying to knock on other SUCCESSFUL TRUSTED REPUTABLE businesses that put in the hard work and continue to work hard to give the best products. This article was written to ATTACK AN INNOCENT PRODUCT TO ADVERTISE HIS OWN. lastly, you cant use science to prove a hypothesis which just does not come up to be a thought!! “Milk is bad for you and this is why…” Laughable at best. Instead of you “vegans” trying to destroy a legendary product YOU ALL NEED TO LOOK AT YOURSELVES. anything you eat can be bad for you and too much of one thing CAN KILL YOU. To end this pathetic sad excuse for an advertisement “save our bones” you people who think milk is bad for need to EDUCATE AND SAVE YOURSELVES!!.

    • Why do you want my name?! June 21, 2014, 5:36 am

      Dude… There is a reason why cow’s milk is only for cows and not fed to other animals or babies… That milk is made for cows and I’m not a vegetarian! I love my meat. Cow’s milk is not made for us, if we want that, go drink mother’s milk.

    • Dean June 20, 2014, 5:45 am

      Quote “NO ONE HAS THE SAME SET OFJAW OR TEETH SIZE. which means, people who dont eat meat might not be able to open their jaw wide enough to chew the meat and tear it down as much as someone with a more wide opening of the mouth.”

      What a completely ridiculous statement! i think you are the one who need to educate themselves on the human anatomy!!

      Everyone has different teeth? then one would have to assume that you had dog teeth then since you are eating carcass?
      So why are you here if you are not interested in the topic?

    • Blenz June 15, 2014, 7:51 am

      Well Jay. In the past, I would’ve said “I’ve met stupid people and mentally dysfunctional people; but I’m still figuring where to place you within that spectrum”, but I’ve learned differently. The indoctrination of flawed health facts through schools and other learning institution are the fault for your ignorance. I don’t want to write another vegan story and spend a few good hours lecturing someone who is confined to their pink world.. but if you actually took a better look at the facts, motives of man and industry, and simply use something I like to call ‘common-sense’, you’ll realize that this article (and veganism) is, in terms of health, correct.

      I take it you have not studied within the fields of medicine or nutrition; its rather apparent. You are probably defending the flawed notions you’ve been taught because you are comfortably accustomed to it. Sure, why would you want to wake up to the realization that a lot of what you think you know isn’t true? Open your eyes; the world and lifestyle as you know it are not what they seem.

      I’d like to add that humans, just like every other species, are equipped with a rather uniform anatomy. You do not have humans who are specifically made for meat and humans who are specifically made for greens. Our dental layout is anatomically uniform; please get your head out of your ass before you convince yourself of the idiotic idea that poorly maintained teeth means you were destined to eat meat.

      I’m a Medical Biologist, and I too was brought up with the notion that meat, milk, adding condiments and whatnot was good for me. I realized its a load of jack. You may or may not want to hear it, but nature decides what you were BUILT for. Your biology, anatomy, physiology and your biochemistry all point towards the same thing; and no son, it isn’t a steak with a glass of milk. While society and technology have advanced at an incredible rate, our bodies cannot. Sure, you could theorize that over the course of 500 million years, you’d be well adapted to living your current lifestyle (given that the environmental pressure remains the same), but you cannot accomplish an evolutionary overhaul of your digestive tract within a couple thousand years.

      Anyway, believe what you’d like, just take everything the industry tells you with a grain of salt. Oh and.. I think you should consider getting an education :).

    • Paul June 12, 2014, 4:47 pm

      Hey Jay-
      What’s with all the hate, brother? My son is lactose intolerant so we had to make a few adjustments at home. The more I investigated milk, the more I saw that it really is not good for you. I am not a vegan by any means- I will chow down on some red meat any day of the week. But I believe it’s true that cows milk was made just for cows and lactose intolerance is actually a body’s natural response to something it is not supposed to have. If you think this site is trying to push some sort of agenda, then that’s on them. I don’t take anyone’s word on it- I did a tremendous amount of investigation and I feel that I chose correctly for me and my family.

  15. Mark Denman June 9, 2014, 11:25 am

    It’s bot just bone health that suffers; It has been shown that there is a 5 times greater chance of contracting M.S. among dairy consumers; it was found that in Scandinavian countries there, (where they are all in the latitude eliminating the sunshine factor of M.S.) there was a 5 times greater incidence of M.S. among the inner dairy consuming farming communities than in the outer fish eating fishing communities . Dairy protein is also very similar to Myelin, the fatty sheathing to our nerves that M.S. attacks, Our bodies produce antibodies to the Dairy protein that strays into out of out digestive tracts, these antibodies seem to then attack the myelin in our nervous system. This relationship was shown by introducing the antibodies collected from people with no MS symptoms into healthy rats, The Rats subsequently developed brain lesions and M.S. symptoms. I have always loved eating cheese, ice cream etc, I also was diagnosed with M.S. a little while ago, why are these findings and the bone loss findings not used to recommend a healthy diet to the American people ? the almighty Dollar is why.

    Research your food people don’t believe big business.

  16. Grace June 4, 2014, 3:26 pm

    Thank you for caring enough about the human race to post this most important information about our bone health. It’s amazing to me how human beings seem to “selectively” evolve in this life. Profits, taste buds and greed usually seem to prevail. Also, I think people generally want to believe that what mainstream doctors and society are saying or promoting is good and beneficial to our families. People want to focus on other things in life like working, raising “healthy”/happy kids and saving for vacations and retirement. The problem is that we have to take ownership of our health and not walk around like puppets and as a group with a herd-like mentality; just doing what everyone does. By the time retirement comes around most people are too sick battling various illnesses and taking far too much medication to throughly enjoy retirement, if they make it that far. Many of our diseases and illnesses stem from poor diets. People need to be realistic and get their heads out of the sand and learn about diet and health thinking “out of the box”. If we are slaves to our taste buds then we’ll never evolve in a healthful way and the human race will eventually die off from our excessive, thoughtless and sometimes just plane misinformed food choices. At 47 years old and 25 year vegetarian people often think I’m a decade you get then I am. Animal food products are a drain on the human body. It’s so hard to talk about. Meat eaters in general become defensive and I lose my train of thought when trying to help educate. I think I will write a book!

    • Cheryl June 6, 2014, 9:11 am

      Grace I agreed with everything you said except I didn’t understand what you meant when you said people think you are a decade.
      I first got saw a mention about dairy products being bad for your bones from someone on Facebook when I said my mother has osteoporosis. A woman said I should get her off milk and ice cream straight away! Unfortunately my mother only takes notice of her doctor and not me. I must say I was surprised at finding out milk is bad for us when we have been told for so long how good it is for us. I was glad in a way as I always thought I didn’t get enough calcium because I had well under the amount of milk that was recommended for a child, yet when I had a bone density scan at 37 years old my bones were as good as a 20 year old! So my dad was doing me a favour without realising it when he deprived me of milk.
      How is it legal for the medical profession to give us the wrong information?

  17. Milena May 29, 2014, 4:31 am

    Related scientific researches on milk harmful effect indicated in the book of Dr.Barnard N. Breaking the Food Seduction. New York: St. Martin’s Press, 2003.:

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    2. Benyhe S. Morphine: new aspects in the study of an ancient compound. Life Sci 1994;55:969-79.
    3. Meisel H, FitzGerald RJ. Opioid peptides encrypted in intact milk protein sequences. Br ] Nutr 2000;84(suppll):S27-S31.
    4. Panksepp J, Normansell L, Siviy S, Rossi J, Zolovick AJ. Casomorphins reduce separation distress in chicks. Peptides 1984;5:829-31.
    5. Shah NP. Effects of milk-derived bioactives: an overview. Br ] Nutr 2000;84 (suppll):S3-S10.
    6. Meisel H. Chemical characterization of opioid activity of an exorphin isolated from in vivo digests of casein. FEBS Letters 1986;196:223-7.
    7. Teschemacher H, Umbach M, Hamel U, et al. No evidence for the presence of -casomorphin in human plasma after ingestion of cows’ milk or milk products. J Dairy Res 1986; 53:135-8.

    8. Umbach M, Teschemacher H, Praetorius K, Hirschh?user R, Bostedt H. Demonstration of a casomorphin immunoreactive material in the plasma of newborn calves after milk intake. Regulatory Peptides 1985;12:223-30.
    9. Chabance B, Marteau P, Rambaud JC, Migiiore-Samour D, Boynard M, Perrotin P, Guillet R, Joll?s P, Fiat AM. Casein peptide release and passage to the blood in humans during digestion of milk or yogurt. Biochimie 1998;80:155-65.

    10. Clyne PS, Kulczycki A. Human breast milk contains bovine IgG. Relationship to infant colic? Pediatrics 1991;87:439-44.

    11. Lindstr?m LH, Nyberg F, Terenius L, et al. CSF and plasma ?-casomorphin-like opioid peptides in postpartum psychosis. Am J Psychiatry 1984;141:1059-66.

    12. Nyberg F, Lindstr?m LH, Terenius L. Reduced beta-casein levels in milk samples from patients with postpartum psychosis. Biol Psychiatry 1988;23:115-22.

    13. Nyberg F, Lieberman H, Lindstrom LH, Lyrenas S, Koch G, Terenius L. Immuno-reactive ?-casomorphin-8 in cerebrospinal fluid from pregnant and lactating women: correlation with plasma levels. J Clin Endocrinol Metab 1989;68:283-9.

    14. Chaytor JP, Crathorne B, Saxby MJ. The identification and significance of 2-phenylethylamine in foods. J Sci Ed Agric 1975;26 :593-8.

    15. Teschemacher H, Koch G, Brantl V. Milk protein-derived opioid receptor ligands. Biopolymers 1997;43:99-117.

    16. Ratner D, Eshel E, Vigder K. Juvenile rheumatoid arthrirtis and milk allergy. J Royal Sac Med 1985;78:410-13.

    17. Giovanhucci E, Rimm EB, Wolk A, Ascherio A, Stampfer MJ, Colditz GA, Willett WC. Calcium and fructose intake in relation to risk of prostate cancer. Cancer Res 1998;58:442-7.

    18. Chan JM, Stampfer MJ, Ma J, Gann PH, Gaziano JM, Giovannucci E. Dairy products, calcium, and prostate cancer risk in the Physicians’ Health Study. Am ] Clin Nutr 2001;74:549-54.

    19. Heaney RP, McCarron DA, Dawson-Hughes B, et al. Dietary changes favorably affect bone remodeling in older adults. J Am Dietetic Asso 1999;99:1228-33.

    20. Cohen P. Serum insulin-like growth factor-I levels and prostate cancer risk — interpreting the evidence. J Natl Cancer Inst 1998;90:876-9.

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    • M.B. June 16, 2014, 5:55 am

      Look at the dates of the articles you read, none of them are above 2000 year. old studies are old studies, new ones are always better with statistics, and if you are saying that milk is bad the go on and dont give your child any milk or milk products (cheese, sour cream, yogurt and so on) and see what happens. You will be amazed of the power of the milk. And BTW you dont have any medical degree that can state that milk is bad for you, you even said that your doctor said to drink alot of milk – he isnt wrong, he studies in university for many years, and what did you do? read some old books and now you have the qualification to judge a doctors opinion? Oh the society…

    • Super awesome scientist June 4, 2014, 11:04 pm

      You can find plenty of articles supporting the exact opposite. Just do a quick pubmed search.

  18. Vizzle May 28, 2014, 4:21 pm

    Can you cook with cow’s milk? Are brownies, pancakes, and any other food with milk just as an ingredient, bad for you? Should you only use other milks, like almond milk?

    • colin June 19, 2014, 10:53 am

      the health benefits of organic raw milk should not be put into the same category as pasteurized and homogenized milk raw milks nutritional profile is a lot different to the
      main stream milk industry.

  19. Blah Blah May 28, 2014, 12:46 pm

    This has never come up before! Milk has always been around since thousands of years (being a part of animals). Why, I ask, why are we suddenly telling people this now?! Milk is a consumer product that millions of drink. Milk will be milk.

    • Colin June 19, 2014, 11:29 am

      If you want the truth about milk go to Dr Mercolas web site and put in his search window
      is milk good for you and you will get a load of detailed articles on the harmful effect of milk unless it raw milk from grass fed cows on organic pesticide free pastures.
      Have you seen the front cover of the latest TIME magazine the scientific community have finally admitted that fats are good for us, which is something that has been known for the last century and only now have they admitted that they were wrong except TRANS FAT that is extremely TOXIC. Cholesterol is another thing that has been lied about for the last 70 years. We need good cholesterol in our diet have a look at Dr Kummerow for nearly 8 decades has been studying the science of lipids, cholesterol and heart disease and nutrition. What has main stream Media been saying that Cholesterol is bad for you but what is the truth well do your own research and find out the facts.It is no DIFFERENT with the milk industry.

    • FUCK THIS ARTICLE ITS BULL SHIT June 2, 2014, 8:43 pm

      What a load of rubbish, you need vitamin D to absorb calcium that’s just the way it works.


  20. rowena May 27, 2014, 8:43 pm

    I believe milk starts us off in life then we wean ourselves off it like most animals
    so maybe there’s a valid point in not drinking milk after a certain period especially other animals milk

  21. Josie Montoya May 27, 2014, 12:49 am

    What about drinking coconut milk

    • Colin June 19, 2014, 10:57 am

      Coconut milk has many health benefits just make sure that you buy organic with no other ingredients. Just as nature intended.

  22. Dan May 26, 2014, 5:51 am

    • The internet is god July 6, 2014, 10:13 pm

      It’s on Youtube. It must be true.

  23. Bobb May 22, 2014, 10:52 am

    This is BS what facts do they have?

    • Colin June 19, 2014, 11:00 am

      Bobb if you want facts go to google and put in Dr Mercola. Once you on his web site put in ( is milk good for us ) and you should get plenty of articles about milk in great detail.

      • Dr. Mercola July 6, 2014, 10:15 pm

        Hi, Dr. Mercola here. You shouldn’t believe what my website says, because it’s just one website. You should search places like or other databases full of peer-reviewed journal articles. People keep siting my website like I know everything about milk and if its good or not. You should go read research articles and decide for yourself!

  24. Sir Empirical May 18, 2014, 3:14 pm

    Gotta love the scientific research constantly mentioned but never cited. If anyone knows how calcium/vitamin c/etc affects bones, and that your bones do break down naturally but replace to the point you have a new skeleton every year, we have osteocytes and osteoblasts that serve their unique purpose. Also milk has lactose, lactose is a carb, one of the 3 most common disaccharides in simple sugars, milk is also a natural emulsifier which helps combine oils with water. Also consider when milk is digested usually it is not alone in the stomach and absorbs into other foods which also get broken down by stomach acid and the billions of beneficial bacteria and enzymes in your GI tract. On top all that, actually, MOST OF ALL – stomach acid IS essential for calcium absorption. It allows for it to be extracted from the milk by breaking down the milk, IT GETS absorbed into the stomach acid, calcium carbonate NEEDS stomach acid. I’m majoring in nutrition and holistic medicine and though I don’t believe in drink milk from other animals, I know this is BULLSHIT this whole un-cited blog.

    • Colin June 19, 2014, 11:04 am

      buddy unless it is raw milk from grass fed cows on organic pasture ( pesticide free ) any other milk is rubbish.
      I think you need to do a lot more research.

      • Is Colin for real? July 6, 2014, 10:19 pm

        Sir Empirical above broke down milk metabolism to its physiological foundation. He used facts that are in research articles and nutrition textbooks everywhere. The basic structure of milk does not change even if its from a purple cow feed only sour patch kids. Lactose is formed by glucose bonded to galactose, both carb molecules. What research have you done? Oh yeah read a bunch of half wit articles like this one.

  25. Holly May 16, 2014, 6:53 pm

    I don’t understand why this is even a debate. How does anyone think that drinking the milk of another animal is “healthy”? Or weird for that matter? Would you think it strange if cats began to suckle from humans when they were lactating? We artifically inseminate cows just so they will produce milk, then abort their calves. Cow’s lives are cut in half for our milk consumption. They are not made to feed us. They are made to feed their offspring. Cows are 100 pounds when they’re born and the milk they’re given makes then quadruple in size in months and we, being much smaller and requiring FAR different nutrients, consume the same nutrition from them for our entire lives. It’s disgusting, inhumane, and makes no sense to me. Calcium is highly available in kale, spinach, and many other leafy greens that absorb much better in the body. There are clear studies that show a high link of osteoporosis in countries that consume the most dairy. What else needs to be said?

    • Cheryl June 6, 2014, 9:27 am

      Holly you make a lot of sense. The only reason we are told to drink milk and consume other dairy products is to make money for farmers and the associated beneficiaries. It is wrong that the medical industry is being dishonest though. It is the same deal for eating meat, as that is not essential either.

    • Cheryl June 6, 2014, 9:17 am

      Grace I agreed with everything you said except I didn’t understand what you meant when you said people think you are a decade.
      I first got saw a mention about dairy products being bad for your bones from someone on Facebook when I said my mother has osteoporosis. A woman said I should get her off milk and ice cream straight away! Unfortunately my mother only takes notice of her doctor and not me. I must say I was surprised at finding out milk is bad for us when we have been told for so long how good it is for us. I was glad in a way as I always thought I didn’t get enough calcium because I had well under the amount of milk that was recommended for a child, yet when I had a bone density scan at 37 years old my bones were as good as a 20 year old! So my dad was doing me a favour without realising it when he deprived me of milk.
      How is it legal for the medical profession to give us the wrong information?

      • Meh July 10, 2014, 1:42 am

        CTFU! Right because all the farmers I know are just rolling around in money???????????? “And thats all I have to say about that” In my Forrest Gump voice…………

    • El juanito May 25, 2014, 6:54 am

      There is a link betweem osteoporosis and sitting on your ass all day doing nothing for years. Bone mass comes from the need of the bone to become thicker from repeted agressions, like running or carrying wheights. If you do nothing your bone will eventually lose mass. And the medical community is starting to look at osteorosis and a natural aging event, not a disease

      • Cheryl June 6, 2014, 9:30 am

        El juanito yes the medical industry do tell us we should be doing high impact exercises to strengthen our bones.
        Good bone density is dependent on a good diet, exercise and sunlight.

  26. Dipesh Sharma May 15, 2014, 11:30 pm

    Easy and simple to check if we loose Ca by drinking milk or not. have a two set of people or yourself. First one month, don’t drink milk or use any dairy products. Collect your urine everyday, every time (don’t mix). Next month, consume milk heavily (keep log of drinking time and amount), collect urine everyday, every time. With two months urine, give it to some lab to check Ca content. Each sample should cost less than a dollar for routine Ca check.
    Stop worrying and leave the life. Drinking or not drinking milk you may save (just assumption) 1-2 yrs more. But, what difference does that make when you are already old and spent most of your past just worrying what to eat and not to eat.

    • jenny blue May 21, 2014, 9:23 am

      It makes a huge difference to the poor animals terribly exploited just so you can have their milk. Being vegan is the best way forward, for humans, animals and indeed the planet.

      • Meat eater July 6, 2014, 10:25 pm

        You’re a vegan huh? Have fun with your microcytic microchromic anemai (iron deficiency). Oh green leafy veggies have iron? Yes they do, non-heme iron. You need heme iron too. Where do you get that you ask? Animals products only!!! Also have fun with your megaloblastic anemia (vitamin B12 deficiency). Where do you get B12? Animal products only!!! If you do not eat any animal products ever, you will still have deficiencies. Theres a reason real, dedicated vegans tend to look pale. They’re anemic, which is bad in case you didn’t know.

      • Cheryl June 6, 2014, 9:35 am

        Yes you’re right Jenny. I am almost a vegan now and have been drinking brown rice milk instead of cows milk for about six months now. The only problem is non dairy products cost more than dairy. I am sure if more people bought them then the price would go down.

      • Green Bean May 21, 2014, 2:59 pm

        That’s funny because I don’t think there are any vegan sharks out in the ocean. Did you know humans actually have a taste bud specifically for meat? We are meant to be carnivores by nature. I’m down to switch to almond milk but I will never give up my steak or chicken.

        • Robert June 12, 2014, 1:06 pm

          Although we’ve been carnivores, and yes, we have been in the beginning of human race, we’ve slowly changed to today’s human, to eat different, more balanced, aka, evolved. But, it is an outrageous and dangerous lie to say that we should live as vegans/vegetarians. Meat, to a certain amount and quality (and quality of processing it) belongs to our diet!

        • Cheryl June 6, 2014, 9:45 am

          Green Bean we are definitely not designed to be carnivores. Take a look at a cats teeth and compare it to ours. You will see there is not much similarity. Our teeth more resembles a Chimp although their canines are much larger than ours. Chimps do eat small animals occasionally but most of their diet is Vegan. Our alimentary canal is also much longer than a cat’s. Ours is closer to the length of a horse than a cat. A cat only has a short alimentary canal so the meat passes through the gut quickly. If we eat lots of meat the meat will stay in our bodies for a long time and will cause problems, such as bowel cancer.

        • Richard May 22, 2014, 10:31 pm

          We’re obviously not meant to be carnivores all you have to do is look at our teeth. We were meant to eat fruits and nuts. That said I’m in the process of grilling a twenty six ounce bone in ribeye because it is friggin delicious.

          • Bill June 13, 2014, 12:40 pm

            actually we are omnivores. We have the design to eat meet and plants. Even vegans are not exactly health by not eating meat. Meat is essential. As you cant get some of the things from plants as you can in meats. Specific fats come to mind. Someone said look at your teeth. Yeah we have 4 sharp teeth that are for shredding meat, I bet you can guess which one. molars are for crushing and tearing. The front teeth are for biting into.

  27. Gopal Rao May 13, 2014, 12:32 pm

    The basic flaw in Vivian’s argument is that if the animal protein in milk is acidifying and depletes our bones of calcium to neutralise it, what of the immensely larger quantities of animal protein that are part of most people’s daily diet. You steak eaters should be quite boneless by now. Obviously there is something missing (wrong?) in the assumption that the body will leach Ca from bones to compensate.

  28. Connie Johnston May 9, 2014, 11:27 am

    As a child , I stopped drinking milk in first grade. I could not keep it down. I am 67 and still don’t drink milk. I do eat Fage plain yogurt with honey and fresh fruit. I like cheese. and eat ice cream once in a while. Is that ok? I have osteoporosis, I have just started to take AlgaeCal, because my doctor wanted me to take Prolia, and I refused. I exercise for 20- 30 minute daily.

    • Green Bean May 21, 2014, 3:17 pm

      Weight bearing exercises build bone density. Ask your doctor if you can.

  29. Jamie May 9, 2014, 2:58 am

    Anything in excess can be bad of course. In general, I see nothing wrong with milk in its intended form, from cows that aren’t being pumped with all sorts of antibiotics and hormones. Do i use it as my prinary source of calcium? Not really. One issue I have regarding this article is that the author criticizes milk for its calcium absorption yet recommends almond milk. While almond milk is healthy and delicious, it has other components that compete for calcium absorption and win, thus making it a poor source for calcium. My nutritionist has a client whose doctor told her to cut dairy. The nutritionist warned her not to stop drinking milk, especially in favor of almond milk. The client cut dairy anyways and within the year developed osteoporosis. Granted, this is only one person, but I have a hard time believing milk can’t be beneficial when used properly. There are many great sources for calcium other than milk too of course, but this article seems sketchy…

    • Alexander Rian May 22, 2014, 12:08 pm

      I don’t know that they were giving milk substitutes for calcium rather than just “drink this to replace your milk so you don’t feel deprived”. You can kick milk and research better, vegan ways to get calcium. :)

    • Gabriel May 19, 2014, 4:42 pm

      Agree!! Anything in excess IS BAD…. for real, even wather… i think the recomendation about other milk is for people who like to drink milk.. Like me i like my Choco Krispis of course with milk but if i dont want to leach Ca from my bones and still want to eat my Choco krispis i better start taking some alternatives. In my case i don’t think is necesary to whipe out milk from diet, but I definitely stoping using it as primary source of Ca.

    • ER May 15, 2014, 6:15 pm

      “milk in it’s intended form”

      For humans, that would be human milk, until the natural age of weaning between 2 and 7. Cow milk is only intended for calves, not humans.

      • Cheryl June 6, 2014, 9:52 am

        Exactly ER

  30. Rachel May 8, 2014, 10:26 am

    So the video that has been going around where the milk is poured into the coca-cola bottle and shows what it looks like after a couple hours, it was like sand/dirt at the bottom of the bottle and a clear yellowish liquid at top separate from the sediment….What does that mean….?There was no article ,if I remember correctly, to explain what your seeing. So I wonder what all of you opinionated people on this thread, not what but how you all would explain it based off of what this article is trying to say?

  31. Diana Trimble May 8, 2014, 8:37 am

    Unless you have an allergy or are lactose intolerant there is absolutely nothing wrong with drinking milk. And now that it is possible to get lactose-free milk, well, that problem has been solved. Cow milk is a million times healthier than soy milk, which most vegans chug by the gallon. The funniest and most illogical reasoning that this article puts forth, and which I’ve heard thousands of times from other anti-dairy preachers, is this thing about how “unnatural” it is to consume the milk produced by another species for its young. You could use the same flawed reasoning to criticize eating the sex organs of plants (otherwise known as fruits). Nature is weird and wonderful and all creatures consume all sorts of “weird” stuff. Science does not back up the claims in this article. I am fortunate enough to live in the countryside where I can get fresh whole milk from local purveyors that is delicious and pure.

    • pfft May 12, 2014, 5:13 am

      yeah, those “flower sex organs” were made sweet in order to attract animals into eating them and disperse the seeds. it IS natural to eat fruits. such ignorance

      • Not A Scientist Either May 13, 2014, 2:21 pm

        Are you sure Ms Trimble isn’t correct? Her statistics are very impressive; after saying “a million times more healthy” has got to be seen as an impressive statement to anyone’s ears. Especially if someone is chugging gallons of anything during a single day. I have to wonder why she talks to so many strangers about their eating/drinking habits unless she has either an over-active imagination or comes from a diary-producing family who feel threatened by the possibilities which seem to be coming to light.

        And who knew there were thousands of anti-dairy preachers anyway? But now I do seem to remember seeing adverts in the back of comic books years ago offering degrees in Anti-Dairy preaching. Apparently the church is not so fond of cows.

        Comments left are funny things. And always tend to verge on silly when the individual is emotionally close (for whatever reason) to a matter. It’s general knowledge now that the USDA have very successfully been making up all sorts of advertising points since the early 1900s to move milk surplus. It’s what any organisation vigorously attempts to do to increase sales. And of course, few ever questioned their statements, much less demanded any sort of evidence. But lies they are.

        Things change with the accumulation of information no matter how much we prefer they do not. Even if opinions don’t.

  32. Joyce May 4, 2014, 5:11 pm

    It’s hard to know what to believe about milk and bone health:

  33. Crystal April 30, 2014, 7:10 pm

    I started checking the journal articles citied here. Although the first study does say, “Consumption of diary products, particularly at age 20 years, was associated with an increase risk of hip fracture in old age,” you forgot to mention that the article goes on to say just a few sentences later that, “(s)ome of the results of this study were unanticipated and may be due to chance or bias. If confirmed by other studies, these results would challenge some current approaches to hip fracture prevention.” This article is from 1994. Other studies have not found similar results. If you look up journals linking dairy consumption with osteoporosis, all of them state a positive relationship between milk absorption and a decreased risk of osteoporosis. In fact, one article written in 2000 states that, “(o)f 52 investigator-controlled calcium intervention studies, all but two showed better bone balance at high intakes, or greater bone gain during growth, or reduced bone loss in the elderly, or reduced fracture risk” (Calcium, dairy products, and osteoporosis, Journal of the American College of Nutrition, 19,2). Don’t believe everything you read on the internet. I have yet to find replicated evidience-based studies showing milk consumption has negative health effects.

  34. Crystal April 30, 2014, 7:08 pm

    I started checking the journal articles citied here. Although the first study does say, “Consumption of diary products, particularly at age 20 years, was associated with an increase risk of hip fracture in old age,” you forgot to mention that the article goes on to say just a few sentences later that, “(s)ome of the results of this study were unanticipated and may be due to chance or bias. If confirmed by other studies, there results would challenge some current approaches to hip fracture prevention.” This article is from 1994. Other studies have not found similar results. If you look up journals linking dairy consumption with osteoporosis, all of them state a positive relationship between milk absorption and a decreased risk of osteoporosis. In fact, one article written in 2000 states that, “(o)f 52 investigator-controlled calcium intervention studies, all but two showed better bone balance at high intakes, or greater bone gain during growth, or reduced bone loss in the elderly, or reduced fracture risk” (Calcium, dairy products, and osteoporosis, Journal of the American College of Nutrition, 19,2). Don’t believe everything you read on the internet. I have yet to find replicated evidience-based studies showing milk consumption has negative health effects.

  35. Jason April 26, 2014, 4:01 pm

    How about we all have a little experiment/competition. Milk and meat lovers eat nothing but meat and drink milk, and the rest of us will stick to vegetables grains and water. Whoever lives longer wins. Go!

    • Diana Trimble May 8, 2014, 2:12 pm

      Jason, either diet that you describe sounds completely imbalanced and both theoretical groups would result in unhealthy people. Anyway, I eat a lot more vegetables than many of the junk-food vegans I know who stuff their faces with chips, bread, pasta, rice, tofu, snack bars made of refined sugars and low-grade grains, and other empty calories that I either avoid or abstain from completely. I am a big fan of dairy and eggs and I eat meat/fish a couple of times a week, only consuming the most ethically produced, non-factory farmed, (or wild) and thus expensive, products. I have perfect cholesterol levels, low blood pressure and am free of allergies. It’s interesting to me how many people who start restricting their diets along vegan/gluten-free lines soon develop all sorts of sensitivities to various foods, including fruits and vegetables. That is what imbalance does to the body.

    • Juan Carlos April 26, 2014, 4:50 pm

      How about this you shut up go home put a shotgun in your mouth and do us all a favor.

      • Jason May 1, 2014, 10:23 am

        Also I’m home and I don’t own a shot gun, so I ate some black beans and quinoa and went out and hugged a cow.

        • Debra May 4, 2014, 10:40 pm

          Good one, Jason. Are you single? For women, compassion is a real turn on. Take note, Juan.

          • Cheryl June 6, 2014, 10:00 am

            Debra you are so right!

      • Jason May 1, 2014, 10:15 am

        Why are you so upset that I don’t blindly follow the masses?

      • Richard t ansey April 27, 2014, 7:56 pm

        In a world of ignorence and greed,Pasterized milk is use less,. seeing as how they both have the same shelve life. no amino acids no magniseum or any thing to get calcium to bone.It,s great for arterial plaque that cause hypertension ,. heart desease. Why do you think you never hear that It’s a 19.1 billion dollar industy, and ignorece makes more and more with a 40 million year instinck GREED

  36. Gilberto April 24, 2014, 12:42 pm

    Hi my questions in regard to the yogurt,.. and would if have any negative effects,. I make it here,. of raw caw milk,.. we heat it up to almost building point,.. then we add kefir and alout to sit till ready,.. is there still calcium even after heated,.. would you call it a posetive and a negative for it coming from a caw milk,.. i like to have them prity frequently at times,.. full of fruits,..:) thank you,.. i will love your comment,. thank you,..

  37. Kira April 23, 2014, 9:35 pm

    Yes, yes!! My mom told me that today whenever she got home from church (’cause I was staying home to do my homework). And she said that it’s full of pus and a bit of blood and now, I’m absolutely disgusted. I can’t even finish my cereal. Is coconut milk good? I only use it topically and my mom does for cooking, but I wonder if it would taste good…

    • Latisha April 26, 2014, 4:55 pm

      Well your moms a dirty common street whore who has so much knowledge a hamster is smarter. The only thing full of pus and blood is her biscuit.

      • Vegan May 2, 2014, 2:42 pm

        Latisha, sorry to bust your perfect world, but those are things found in milk. Yes, it would be upsetting to me also knowing that my mom allowed me to consume such a gross thing. But this is the world we live in…………
        It is about $$$$$$$$$, not our health, or living a long life. Ignorance is not a bad thing. But if someone tries to educate you and you get defensive and REACT in an ignorant fashion, will then my friend, that is the real sad thing .

      • Kay muns May 2, 2014, 4:38 am

        Why do ignorant people always feel the need to insult others? Geez please be respectful, if you disagree say so and state your reasons and facts to back then up, really? How old are you?.

  38. us air conditioning and heating April 23, 2014, 4:27 pm

    Central air conditioners ought to be professionally inspected and adjusted ahead of the beginning of every single cooling season.

  39. Robert April 22, 2014, 3:30 pm

    It seems that about every five years or so, Doctors/Scientists change their position on what is good or bad for us. First eggs were good then they were bad, now they are good again, same with salt, butter, cholesterol numbers etc, just to name a few. You people have no real clue what the hell you are doing, You spend a hundred thousand dollars on an education and then release some “brilliant” new theory that milk is bad for you. Really? You Doctors/Scientists have lost nearly all trust and credibility in my book. I think I will just stick to the old fashioned rule of eating a good healthy balanced diet in moderation, get a good night’s sleep, and plenty of exercise because any new information you have on what may be good or bad for me is garbage.

    • Debra May 4, 2014, 10:46 pm

      Why is it always about us? Quit worrying about whether it’s good for you or bad for you. All you need to know is that it’s bad for the animals! You can eat a healthy diet with absolutely no animal products in it. That’s a fact. Leave the animals alone!

      • WRONG!! July 6, 2014, 10:33 pm

        No you can’t. Without animal products at all, you will be anemic and if you pump yourself full of soy products you are increasing your risk of breast cancers.

      • JJ May 6, 2014, 12:31 am

        Drinking Cow milk may not be natural…. But killing animals and eating their meat is.

        • John May 13, 2014, 12:55 pm

          How is eating meat not natural, Humans have evolved as omnivores, hence the sharper pointy teeth up front and flat teeth near the back. We evolved to eat both,therefore I will eat both. That being said, in this day and age there is no reason for corporations to treat the livestock in cruel or inhumane ways, insure as best as you can the meat is from farmers that do free range,etc. for their livestock.

  40. Alexandria April 20, 2014, 10:51 pm

    We’re not supposed to be able to drink cow’s milk. Our ancient relatives didn’t. It’s actually a fairly new concept (not new like last year, but the last like hundred years). This is why there are so many people who are lactose intolerant, we genetically aren’t designed to drink milk from any animal but our mother’s (but yes sometimes lactose intolerant babies can’t drink their mother’s milk).

    • Diana Trimble May 8, 2014, 2:27 pm

      Jarrett is correct. People have been consuming animal products, from meat, to milk, to eggs, to honey for many thousands more years than they have been eating the soybean, which is toxic except in its fermented form. Also, are all you vegans aware of the fact that unless you are growing your own veg inside a sterilized space bubble, there is a death count of all sorts of creatures that is unavoidable in agriculture? This is especially true of large-scale industrial farming, which I oppose. I have known loads of vegans who go around with this holier-than-thou attitude yet do not even bother to buy organic or small-farm foods. They either ignore or are genuinely ignorant of the fact that the cheap industrially produced fruit and veg they buy kills hundreds of living beings (insects, amphibians and rodents) by its production methods. Feeling superior because the frog or fox doesn’t end up on your plate is just plain stupid. Death is inevitable. It is a part of life. It is not “wrong” to consume animal products and the animals are not mad at us if we do. They kill and eat each other too and have no concept of ethics. But as humans we have the ability to feel compassion and care about animal welfare. So being an ethical omnivore is not only the healthiest choice, it is a more realistic and honest position plus we have far more power in terms of improving animal welfare than the abstainers. I don’t have an opinion about what anyone does as a matter of personal taste or personal conscience, but I object to the assumptions regarding morality that are typical of the vegan movement.

    • jarrett May 2, 2014, 7:35 pm

      By last hundred years, you should mean about 7500 years ago

  41. DavidMD April 18, 2014, 7:20 pm

    This whole acid theory has been debunked for years now, this is just a blog posting from a Vegan who is against any animal foods. I drink not just Raw Milk, but also Raw Milk colostrum from our cows, and all of my labs come back at the optimal levels.

    • SaintCynicism April 21, 2014, 1:39 pm

      Not just a vegan who is against any animal foods, but a vegan who seems to have a very limited understanding of osteoporosis to begin with. Just take a look at the “About” page.

      Supposedly, after being diagnosed, she had to lament whether or not the horrible disease would prevent her for being there for her sons.

      Problem: Osteoporosis? Not exactly something that leaves you bedridden. Nor is the only treatment medication and milk. One of the effective ways of boosting your bone density involves certain types of exercise (endurance, load bearing, etc.), which naturally start boosting your bone density. There’s extremely limited evidence that changing your diet can help (beyond cutting back on alcohol and tobacco). For fuck’s sake, it seems to be a case of “for the first few years, play it safer and do these things, and then just keep an eye on it from then on.” There’s a slightly increased mortality rate due to complications from fractures, but only a VERY slight one.

      To hear her tell it though, it’s the worst thing since cancer. Sure, it sucks, but it’s not going to end your life as you know it. And I don’t think this lunacy is any sort of coincidence, considering she’s also trying to sell a book in the process. The more likely scenario here is that she wanted to resort to good ol’ scare tactics and misinformation just to help her bottom line.

  42. tony hauptman April 17, 2014, 5:36 pm

    pasteurized milk is as bad as meat in general because of all the chemicals(hormones) in it, pasteurization takes away most benefits from milk. that is not to say to avoid milk altogether, but it depends on people who are looking for a non-processed or non animal product.

  43. Anonymous April 13, 2014, 5:20 am


    How about everyone shuts the fuck up and gather together to attack the PEOPLE IN CHARGE of and who create these “nutritional facts” and tell them to tell the rest of the world the TRUTH instead of attacking each other?

    No one here is an idiot or stupid. We all have our opinions and facts; we are all right, and we are all wrong.

    Let’s face it. Some people are allergic to certain foods and will die if they eat it. At the same time, other people can eat the same foods that their “allergenic siblings” do their whole lives and still live healthily.


    Hell, drinking too much water can kill you. Too much of anything can kill you.

    As long as you consume enough, and not more than enough of milk, you’ll be fine.


    Stop putting people down for their personal opinion. Everyone is different with different morals and beliefs; that does not make them wrong.

    • Kay muns May 2, 2014, 4:57 am

      Thank you for this, I agree, I don’t see why people are getting so bent out of shape about MILK! I would love to understand but it is a matter of personal choice, I love mangoes but I don’t insult people and their mothers when they don’t like them. I’m glad this article was here as my one year old daughter is intolerant to cow’s milk, (she was breastfed for over a year and did fine) she started getting sick after drinking cow milk and this and other articles along with health professionals have helped me understand why. I don’t think you can die from milk consumption but it is just not designed for us just like breast milk is designed by a mother’s body for each individual child. Let’s all just get along and gather what we each can use from this without putting other people down.

    • Dave May 1, 2014, 2:12 pm


    • Marios April 19, 2014, 6:31 am

      And i’ll keep putinng down Nazis what ;ever. The most anithical is to know and do nothing about than do it…

    • Marios April 19, 2014, 6:29 am

      Totaly wrong…. Nazism, is a belief; that make them wrong.

    • Best comment! April 13, 2014, 5:31 am

      Best comment here. Unbiased and even though not very informational, still hits the nail on the head and puts that nail in the coffin! Good read!

      PS: Humans should drink human breast milk. All other animals should drink their respective species milk, or other source of motherly nutrients.

      • Hans April 13, 2014, 6:41 am

        I have (almost) always drunk milk. Cow’s milk, and lots of it. Nearly all of it pasteurized and (unfortunately) homogenized.

        I have ridden skateboards a lot (and crashed). Bicycles a lot (and crashed). Motorcycles (and crashed). Skied on snow, surfed in big waves and flown hanggliders (and crashed some)…

        (I do fly my own plane – which I have never crashed…)

        As a paratrooper I jumped out of planes and in the military in general went through quite a bit of physically “demanding” activity.

        And I have yet to break a bone… (during all my dangerous milk drinking and rambunctious activities).

        I’m in my 50′s now and drinking a quart (or two) of organic un-homogenized milk (with extra cream) daily.

        After going back to milk and (red) meat, and dumping all grains and sugar and fake “milks”, I dropped whatever pesky weight was still around my middle and now weigh perilously close to my high school weight (although I’m taller…)

        Speaking of fake “milks” I was never sicker, more tired, or fatter than the crappy span of years I was stupidly drinking soy milk. I’ll never get those years back. Never.

        I do have a question:

        I am clearly lactose “tolerant”. So my question is…Why? Could it be because it’s genetic? In my DNA? Because many thousands of years ago my ancestors discovered the evolutionary benefit of dairy and adapted so fully and successfully to it that it is now coded in my own genes? That would mean drinking cow’s milk is genetically “normal” for me. And not drinking it would be abnormal. Ah! Eureka!

        • Anonymous April 13, 2014, 9:45 am

          I want to say you are lucky, but that might not be the case. You’re correct about our human evolution and DNA adaptation to milk and other various parts of life. Although I’m not certain that is a fact, and I won’t say it is fact, it does play a major part in our lives, and it has proven itself to humans that we can adapt to something and become what you would call “immune.” However, like annual flu shots, our immunities will most likely fail, not because we lose immunity, but because, say for example, milk will modify itself to go around our immunity, the same way the flu and other viruses do. I’m not saying milk will naturally do this, or will do it at all, but what I call “nutritional modifiers” will probably do everything in their power to change our “god given pure nutrients and foods.” Again, I’m not saying they will, but history has shown that people do this to our natural food source and mineral substances.

  44. Kevin April 7, 2014, 9:32 pm

    Usually when you use a scientific study to try and prove something you cite that study so that the people reading your work have access to the raw data. Is there some reason that you don’t want us to read this vast accumulation of data that suggests milk is bad? Until you cite the sources I’m going to assume that you made all that “science” up.

  45. Common Sense April 6, 2014, 3:22 pm

    Scientific research has proven that we ARE NOT COWS therefore we should NOT drink cows milk.

    • Cheryl June 6, 2014, 10:24 am

      Common Sense, what a surprise! Especially as your comment on the Coca-Cola article said we should be drinking milk. You must have got educated and changed your mind. I’m glad you are not set in your ways and can see logic. Of course it doesn’t make sense that humans are drinking milk that was designed for a cow to suckle her calf with. Many people are unaware that a cow has to get pregnant with a calf before she can produce milk. So soon after she gives birth her cow is taken away from her so we can have her milk instead of her calf. How heartless is that, and unnecessary! And of course only male calves will be kept for breeding but that is very minimal so most of those young male calves are killed for veal.

    • raul April 16, 2014, 8:21 am

      Scientific research has proven that we are not earth, therefore we should not eat seeds, nuts, fruits…

      • Krista April 28, 2014, 11:58 am

        If you wanna bring Earth into this, cows would be included in that too. And so would we. And then you could think even bigger and say we are not stars, therefore we should not eat ~universe. You’re fucking retarded.

      • D April 24, 2014, 9:22 pm

        Ok dumb ass so what do we eat each other -.- . We are not cows fucktard

  46. Tyler April 5, 2014, 10:00 pm

    Just would like to point out something. I’m in a Current Events class, and we quickly went over bias. And one of them was motivation. This person is trying to sell a book. Keep this in mind.

  47. Nichole April 2, 2014, 11:18 am

    Please read perhaps the most important book written to date about our future survival as a species, Dr. Oppenlander’s Food Choice and Sustainability–and then inspire others to do the same.

  48. Adi March 31, 2014, 2:39 am

    The articles, which we may see, in the coming future:

    Don’t drink WATER. It contains solar radiation. (If that kills microorganisms in water, imagine what it will do to us)
    Don’t eat any food (for the exact same reason).
    Don’t go out in sun. It causes cancer.
    Don’t exercise. It causes production of lactic acid, which is very bad for bones.
    Don’t use electricity. Its magnetic field affects the hemoglobin in our RBCs.
    Don’t wear clothes. Or you will get skin disease.
    Don’t breathe. Or you will have cancer from the smoke of automobiles/factories.
    Don’t live. Or you will die.

    I am most certain no matter how poisonous the bovine milk may be for us, it is of much lesser concern than the polluted environment we are living in today.

  49. science March 30, 2014, 6:08 pm

    Please try and keep your morale opinions separate from spreading WRONG SCIENCE in public places. Bicarbonate buffers acidic changes in the blood not Calcium. So when the article says ”And the most readily available source of acid neutralizer is in the bones” – THIS IS JUST PLAIN WRONG. Bicarbonate levels can be increased both by the kidneys and the respiratory system – nothing to do with the bones.

    99% of the calcium that is filtered by the kidneys is also reabsorbed by the kidneys, and the body can up-regulate absorption to 100% if it needs to. I studied medicine at the University of Cambridge, don’t try and brainwash me (or anyone else) with bullshit science. The paper you have quoted is very shady to say the least – not exactly unbiased! Sure, don’t drink milk yourself, but don’t convince others to do the same based on lies.

    • Karen April 6, 2014, 1:50 am

      THANK YOU! I am so tired of reading about “alkalizing” and “acidic” foods. The body keeps its pH at a very specific level and it has nothing to do with food. Stomach acid is much more acidic than any foods we eat.

    • Lorraine April 5, 2014, 7:48 pm

      Cows milk has always been made for calves not humans. A calf’s brain is different from a human. Human milk is made for humans. I don’t think that anyone should drink milk bought from a shop. Too processed. High heat would severely affect the nutrients in the milk. You should try to keep away from processed food if possible.

      • Vicente April 7, 2014, 10:43 pm

        The same beta-casein proteins that are in cow’s milk are also found in human milk.

        • Simone April 14, 2014, 4:32 pm

          That’s true, but there are so many other things in cows milk that aren’t in humans milk.

          • Cheryl April 24, 2014, 7:01 am

            Nice Simone

  50. Richnard Tasey March 30, 2014, 3:57 pm

    Do peaple know what plaque is,so what is it, pasterized milk is use less there are no amino, no magniseum period, there is not other mamal on earth.Eight year to 10 year eight year’ old’s have low bone density becase they think the milk is helping bone getting to bone, when it’s not ,sen top line again

    • Kelly April 11, 2014, 7:51 pm

      Your point would be more convincing if you could spell better than a 2nd grader.

      • Cheryl June 6, 2014, 10:31 am

        Exactly Kelly. That was very hard to read, therefore to understand also.

  51. Mary March 30, 2014, 2:41 am

    I’m guessing that most of you that are commenting on this have never stepped foot on a dairy farm, or have had the proper information of what milk can do for your body. Milk is the easiest way for you to get the calcium and eight other essential nutrients your whole body needs in order to nourish it, not just your bones. And yes, studies have shown that consuming dairy products at a young age has helped a person to develop a healthy lifestyle drinking milk, and has proven to reduce the risk of Osteoporosis. I agree with getting the calcium your body needs, but ever know of a child that has severely broken a bone in their body? Lack of calcium intake can have a huge role in that, but you aren’t going to force a child to take calcium pills when you can give then a glass of milk and make sure they are getting their three a day. I just believe that this article has a poor understanding of what milk does for you and your body.

    • Cheryl June 6, 2014, 10:55 am

      Well I must be different as I had no where near three glasses of milk a day as my father couldn’t afford to buy our family that much milk. In fact, only one cup of milk for me was normal in my childhood as my family of four had to share just 1 and a half litres of milk per day. I use to think I was being deprived as I was getting well under what was recommended for a growing child.
      Even so I didn’t break any bones as a child, even though I had my share of falling off horses from the age of 15, including a particularly bad fall during a horse race when I was 32. I must have concussed as I woke in the ambulance and I couldn’t walk as my hip was very painful. X-rays showed no fractures so I must have had just internal bruising. In addition, when I took part in an exercise study when I was 37 years old my bone density was as good as a 20 year old’s so I was pleasantly surprised. My dad had been doing me a favour without realising it. But my mum does have thinning of the bones now at 76 years old and is taking Calcium tablets, as advised by her doctor. I can’t really compare her to myself yet as she has reached menopause but I haven’t. It will be interesting to see if my bones are still good when I’m over 60 because my diet is different to my mum’s, considering I now drink brown rice milk at home instead of cows milk.

    • Cheryl April 24, 2014, 7:03 am

      Oh dear Mary, go back to bed.

    • victor March 31, 2014, 4:46 am

      Of course, one piece of fiction is that calcium can only be obtained from dairy products or calcium pills. Calcium is not limited to dairy! It is plentiful in a lot of vegetables, meat and seafood. Vegans are even able to get enough, and they eat no dairy at all! Just get get the kids off the processed junk foods and onto real foods and their nutritional intake will improve.

      • Cheryl June 6, 2014, 11:01 am

        Correct Victor. We can blame the media and misinformed medical staff who should know better for that. I only discovered that myself quite recently.
        Blood tests prove how well you are doing nutritionally. I must be doing the right thing as my Calcium hasn’t been low and I certainly don’t consume dairy products in the quantities that are recommended. I never have.

    • richard tansey March 30, 2014, 4:29 pm


      • erm April 14, 2014, 8:33 pm

        What a load of utter tosh! Open up any physiology and pathology book – you will find exactly what makes up arterial plaques, how they form and why.

        Whoever wrote this ridiculous post needs to learn the process of reviewing and critiquing scientific studies, before using them to support their theory. And this whole nonsense of “acidifying foods”??? If your body’s pH changed even just a little bit, you would die. Very quickly. Our physiology revolver around maintaining homeostasis and manages it pretty well!

      • Kevin April 7, 2014, 9:39 pm

        Typing in all caps doesn’t help to prove your crazy nonsense point. It just makes you look like an asshole.

        • Dylan Flaig April 9, 2014, 8:35 pm

          Not really seeing as his comment caught my attention before any of yours, not to mention he’s just trying to make people aware of a potentially bad thing, there’s nothing about that that makes him an asshole.

  52. Shellyvegan Norton March 27, 2014, 11:23 pm

    Excellent article. Me and my entire family do not consume animal secretions. This has been most beneficial to our health. We rarely even get the sniffles. Humans are not meant to consume another animals mammary fluids, especially from a bovine, which is engineered with enough hormones to grow a 400 lb calf. We find it optimally healthy to get our calcium from greens, but enjoy plant based milks also. Ethically, we are happy with our decision, as we are not only respecting our own bodies but also respecting those of other sentient beings. Baby calves should not have to die, so humans can greedily consume what doesn’t belong to them.

    • Cheryl June 6, 2014, 11:13 am

      ShelleyVegan I am glad you are a caring human being who doesn’t just eat to satisfy your taste buds. You are rewarded with good health at the same time. Xx

    • erm April 14, 2014, 8:37 pm

      I consume bovine mammary gland excretions, animal muscle fibre and wear animal skin on my feet. I too rarely get sniffles. And so do my children … Does that make me right?

    • Adey April 2, 2014, 11:09 pm

      Should zebra die so lions can eat? Should mice die so eagles can eat?

      Should seals die so killer whales can eat? Should fish die so bears can eat?

      All through nature we see carnivorous behaviour from animals who don’t have the benefit of internet access to learn how bad their shocking murderous ways are.

      Pre-historic man naturally hunted and ate animals long before they had developed the intelligence to think about what they were doing. I appreciate that mass animal production and farming is different to good old fashioned hunting, but that is purely a matter of evolution.

      So, feel free to live how you like, but don’t try and suggest that the way other people live is anything other than what nature intended.

      • Maiku April 4, 2014, 11:01 pm


  53. Kelly March 27, 2014, 10:59 am

    The dairy industry has never given anyone scientific proof of HOW exactly milk is good for your bones. You know why not? Because there doesn’t exist any since milk is NOT good for the bones. Don’t believe everything commercials tell you! Cows’ milk isn’t just linked to osteoporosis but also to cancer and heart attacks. But no, the stupid ones among us keep consuming it and that’s why I do not feel sorry for most people with cancer or heart attacks; they have brought this on themselves.

    • NotIgnorantLikeYou May 3, 2014, 10:18 pm

      Who the fuk are you to call all people that drink milk stupid?

    • Cody March 27, 2014, 5:37 pm

      About the cancer, that’s pretty much a lost cause. You can’t really avoid things that can cause cancer. In the end, all you can do is make sure you get enough fiber, minerals, and vitamins. Just about everything in our daily lives can cause cancer. A lot of times, it’s not even your own choice to be exposed to it or not.

  54. Cody March 27, 2014, 1:29 am

    Since it’s late, and I’m tired, I’ll put this simply.

    This article may be true, however, every person is different. Therefore, milk may effect some people less while it effects others more. Even though you don’t see immediate, or drastic consequences doesn’t mean they’re not occurring. By all means, drink milk for the rest of your life. But for those that develop bone conditions should look into the effects of milk on their body. If milk is ruled out, then it must be something else.
    Another possibility is that those that drink lots of milk may eat something to counter the loss of calcium, thus hiding the effect of milk. Everyone here should do research on this topic. Just try not to be biased.

    • Kelly March 27, 2014, 11:04 am

      Smoking also affects one more than the other. That doesn’t make smoking healthy. Same for dairy. Both are poison.

      • Adey April 2, 2014, 11:11 pm

        You are suggesting that drinking milk is equally as bad for us as smoking?

        Are you out of your mind?

      • Cody March 27, 2014, 5:08 pm

        I never said it was healthy. In fact, I said it wasn’t and I was attacking the comments of those claiming nothing happened to them from drinking milk.

  55. Yuki March 25, 2014, 2:46 pm

    My grandfather never drank milk and never broke a bone in his body. My uncle who drinks milk every day is also healthy and never broke a bone… seems like everything is going to kill us, maybe we should all just kill ourselves.

    • Kelly March 27, 2014, 11:05 am

      Some smokers get old and others don’t. Doesn’t make smoking healthy. Same argument.

      • rick March 29, 2014, 12:53 am

        Same argument? So in other words…some people drink milk and have bad bones, while others drink milk and have good bones. Doesnt make milk unhealthy.
        Faulty logic doesnt correct itself with repetition.

        • Jason April 26, 2014, 3:52 pm

          Why not try a strict diet of cows milk and beef, nothing else, and tell me how you feel. Then try vegetables and water only and learn to agree with logic.

        • Jason April 26, 2014, 2:31 pm

          It doesn’t make it healthy either, did you ever think that there are other factors at play in all of our diets? It’s not natural to put your baby on a cows teet instead of the baby’s mothers breast, so why would we switch it to cows? If the cows milk was healthier in the first place we would give it to the baby immediately. On the other hand of the breast milk was healthier, why aren’t there human milk options on the shelves? Is this starting to make sense yet? Why do you think there are so many advertisements for milk that involve celebrities? It’s not because noone is drinking it, that’s for sure… I don’t see any vegetable commercials telling me how good they are for me, when we all can agree they are.

  56. MD March 23, 2014, 9:28 pm

    As a pregnant woman I am reluctant to reinvent the wheel after my mom and hers drank milk, and I’m surprised that ppl are willing to advocate for such radical changes with such limited knowledge. The acidic theory may be true but an oversimplification of how our body reaps it’s benefits of food.

  57. Cory D-S March 23, 2014, 1:57 pm

    This is BS. I drink almost a gallon of milk a week and I am extremely healthy. I do many sports and I am a huge adrenilene junky and I have only broken two bones and that was when I was 4 and 7. So all of you should not be afraid to drink milk. Milk rocks.

    • Mart B. March 27, 2014, 11:06 am

      I’ll join your burial once you die of cancer and heart attacks because of the damage animal products did to your body on the long run. May you rest in peace.

      • Kay April 2, 2014, 11:30 pm

        Are you mentally retarded or just a troll? Do you realize that this gentleman probably exercises much more than you do and is therefore probably *less* likely than you to die of either of those things. Maybe people should move their bodies more rather than moan on and on about drinking milk.

  58. ecem March 18, 2014, 3:11 pm

    I have been consuming a lot of milk for 4 years and at this time my nippers have been broken. even I didnt realize why they were broken. before I start to consume so much milk I didn’t use to have a problem like this. I thought that it may be related with milk after reading this article and I decided to avoid milk and observe my teeth.

  59. Toni March 13, 2014, 5:56 pm

    Let everybody believe what there want. My grandfather hat osteoporosis. His doc told him to stope drinking milk and take calcium from green source. Some how it got so much better over the year and he is still doing long walks that he was not able to do in his 50s, i know now prove for disbelievers. How could it by. Just drink you milk i will live happy and long

    • Toni is stupid March 16, 2014, 4:54 pm

      Your comment is not credible. Look at all your spelling and grammar mistakes. Go back to school.

      • You are an a**hole March 22, 2014, 10:21 pm

        What the heck is wrong with you? Do you think putting someone down for how they choose to type in an INFORMAL chat area makes you any better? Would you do this to someone in person? You are a cynical, stuck up, jerk. Do you have any knowledgeable input other than to put people down? Toni actually had something useful to input, that goes along with the article, that actually uses credible sources. Your comment was mean, useless, and rude. It makes you look like an uneducated, poorly mannered fuck.

        • Hipocrit March 26, 2014, 3:58 pm

          You are a fucking hipocrit, your comment has nothing to do with the article EITHER. AND it’s very rude too.

          • It was defense March 27, 2014, 1:09 am

            The person you’re calling a hypocrite had every right to say what he/she did. You offended a person, and this ‘hypocrite’ defended that person.
            Anyway. Back to the topic. No need to continue this any further.

            P.S. Check your spelling.

  60. fasih March 13, 2014, 5:46 am

    cow milk is presious gift of the God don’t believe on this stupid articles

    • Yuki March 25, 2014, 2:42 pm

      You are one precious piece of shit from God.

    • fasih is a retard March 16, 2014, 4:56 pm

      What do you expect to accomplish with that terrible spelling and grammar. You tell people not to believe this article yet you can’t even spell precious. Go back to school you piece of shit

    • Marilyn March 16, 2014, 2:22 pm

      Cows milk is for calves. When they are weaned they no longer need it. Breast milk is for babies and when they are weaned, they no longer need it.

      • Cheryl June 6, 2014, 11:23 am

        You make it all sound so simple, and it is as it makes brilliant sense. Well done!

      • Marilyn March 16, 2014, 2:27 pm

        I forgot to add that all animal products – meat and dairy are acidic and acid takes the calcium from the bones eventually causing osteoporosis.

        • Cheryl June 6, 2014, 11:30 am

          You are right Marilyn. I believe this is the reason my dad suffered from gout as that is linked to an acidic body. His dad also had it so it is probably hereditary like many conditions, but only if you have a similar lifestyle.

        • Kay April 2, 2014, 11:35 pm

          Will you please stop reiterating that bullshit fact? Animal products are nowhere near as bad as some people think they are. How would you react if I told you that tribes in the north whom eat only animal products have some of the lowest rates of cancer and heart disease.

        • John March 22, 2014, 9:04 am

          Grass-fed dairy is not acidic in the body

  61. Billy March 13, 2014, 5:12 am

    I like milk because it tastes good.
    Although after having milk i feel a boost of energy.
    Such a stupid article.

    • Mart B. March 27, 2014, 11:08 am

      It’s all in your head, Billy. Just like drug addicts

    • dodlaa March 24, 2014, 6:54 am

      Your right…..

    • So stupid Billy March 16, 2014, 4:59 pm

      So if something tastes good, that must mean its good for me. If something gives me a boost of energy, then that means its good for me. Ok retard. First of all, taste is a preference. Second, it is the calories that are giving you the energy, as with all food that has calories. Seems like you didn’t even read the whole article. Keep drinking that expensive milk. I hope your body thanks you later when you rot

      • so much more stupid billy March 22, 2014, 1:15 pm

        Why dont you shut your fucking mouth, not anyone on this milk producing earth gives a shit about what think or claim to know. I will drink a gallon of milk and then take a shit on your kitchen floor. What do you think about that?

        • Cody March 27, 2014, 1:16 am

          I’m not the person who commented before, but I think you should calm down, and act mature. This article is backed by science, and looking at this with an un-biased perspective, it seems as though this is correct. Cows milk is ‘cows’ milk. Not human milk. However, I’m going to continue to drink milk, since it’s already a part of my diet.

          P.S. Consuming large amounts of milk for years has shown to cause lactose intolerance in some individuals. It also ‘may’ be the cause of some other conditions. However, they’re temporary, and it usually happens to people 40+. Just keep in mind that something that’s believed to be healthy one day can be a killer the next. One example: cigarettes.

          • Tania April 27, 2014, 12:33 am

            As a moderate consumer of cows milk, I’m happy in the knowledge that the supporters of this conspiracy ridden, unreasearched, incorrect nonsense, are doing a fantastic job of discrediting the article, with their crazed, misinformed, juvenile comments. Well done.

  62. Inoculum March 11, 2014, 9:29 am

    “Here’s how it happens. Like all animal protein, milk acidifies the body pH which in turn triggers a biological correction. You see, calcium is an excellent acid neutralizer and the biggest storage of calcium in the body is – you guessed it… in the bones”

    Dear Miss Goldschmidt,
    your knowledge in biology seems to be poor when you claim that Ca2+ (calcium) is used to buffer the body pH value. Ca2+ changes due to slight pH-changes are more slight byproduct, since the solubility of calcium changes with dropping pH-values. This effect can be observed in every flowstone cave. But since even slight changes in the pH-value result in a major health risk this effect shouldn’t be so drastic.

    If you really whant to learn about our bodies pH management read this:

  63. Mason Slaughter March 10, 2014, 11:21 am

    Im glad people are out there trying to expose the truth, eevrything about what we are told about nutrition is a lie. Does it not concern you that the organization devoted to Agriculture, dairy and meat is the one who is deciding what is healthy? They guile millions of people into eating horrible diets in order to line their pockets. This isnt a conspiracy, its been proven on countless occasions.

    Now, small thing I should note, while cultured dairy has a neutral ph and isnt bad for your bones, over 83% of the protein in dairy is cacein, a protein that has been proven time and time again to GREATLY increase your risk of several different cancers.
    The thing about dairy is that if you are gling to choose what you want..heart disease (from whole milk) or cancer (from skim milk)

    • Inoculum March 11, 2014, 10:09 am

      Did you forget that casein is also present in mother’s milk?
      So since million of years we feed our youngest with carcinogenic stuff??
      Evolution and me say: No we don’t

      • enough March 18, 2014, 10:45 am

        We dont drink breast milk after age 2 really and cows milk has 80% casein while humans milk has about 40%.. no one is saying dont drink it ever…. just not as much as we’re told to by ever government run health organization.

  64. Adam March 7, 2014, 2:24 pm

    Soy milk is bad too…

  65. Jeswin Joseph March 4, 2014, 12:27 pm

    oh please..!! if you are a pure vegan or if you hate the taste of milk, just say that in a line.. saves the time spend reading this pointless and baseless article of “calcium depletion” and “fracture statistics”.

    • Jane March 7, 2014, 6:02 am

      Save us the time with wasting our lives by reading your comment. Idiot.

      • Kay April 2, 2014, 11:37 pm

        I’m taking a dump reading your comment and feel like I just wasted time reading your comment, too ;(

  66. Katie March 3, 2014, 8:34 pm

    Read the china study by , Dr. T. Colin Campbell. A doctor who spent 20 + years studying exactly this is enough proof for me.

    Or watch forks over knives for a few facts on this matter.

  67. Lloyd March 1, 2014, 9:43 pm

    The reason humans are the only ones to keep drinking milk (and from another species) is because we have a more develop brain and 4 figures with opposing thumb. WE CAN MILK COWS and the other species cannot. You think the other species stop drinking milk after infancy or not from other species because it is bad for them? How silly. Put a bold of cow’s milk in front of your cat, dog, bear or lion and see what they do with it. They will lick the bowl clean.

    We drink cow’s milk and then we might just eat the cow. On top of that, we will eat a lot of the foods the cow will eat. One of the reasons the human species has excelled on this planet is we are the most diversified in what we can eat giving us the greatest chance of survival in the most diverse places. Sources of nutrients are not custom designed for just one species at all which is why we have things called food chains. If grows or moves on this planet, you will probably find someone somewhere who will eat it. Our species has adapted to consume a huge array of foods from both animal and plant sources. Milk just happens to be one of those sources. The key is to keep our food sources in balance and moderation.

    • Cody March 27, 2014, 1:19 am

      Cats aren’t supposed to drink cow’s milk. it makes them sick. They will do it, just as a rat will eat rat poison. Rethink your logic.

    • Scott March 10, 2014, 11:31 am


      Did you read the article above?! There is an enormous amount of modern, scientific evidence that proves milk is bad. What don’t you understand? The acidic effect milk causes forces our body to produce stomach acid in excess. The only way our body neutralizes the acid is through extracting calcium from our bones. If you want weak bones…keep eating dairy. It’s no wonder America is at record obese rates…we eat the most processed calories in the world, milk and cheese being among them. I call this junk…SLUDGE.


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      • Inoculum March 11, 2014, 9:26 am

        An this claim is total scientific nonsense

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  68. Dollars March 1, 2014, 8:22 am

    Shizuo Heiwajima begs to differ…

  69. Wade February 20, 2014, 3:15 pm

    Just so you know, the resources and studies quoted in this article were not read in full. It looks to me like she just read the abstract, otherwise she might have thought twice. The article linking milk consumption to increased fracture rate went on to say, “Some of the results of this study were unanticipated and may be due to chance or bias.” Therefore making the study itself unreliable. Milk is a healthy resource. Yes, cows’ milk is tailored for cows, but that increased protein is good for the human body, too.

    • Mason Slaughter March 10, 2014, 11:23 am

      No its not, animal protein is extremely detrimental to our bodys, please I urge you to take of the blindfold and hear me out, you need to read the China Study. Everything you think you know about nutrition is disproven. Dairy protein severely increases your risk of amultitude of cancers

      • Jason April 11, 2014, 7:59 pm

        Ohmygawd. The “China Study”, which by the way, wasn’t a study, has been so thoroughly discredited, it’s ridiculous. Just as one example out of many, check out Joseph DeMarinis’ review on Amazon, for just some of the dozens of flaws in that book.

  70. Cicobuff February 19, 2014, 7:46 pm

    OK. Calcium is a mineral, where does minerals come from?… the ground. Cows get there calcium from grass, wheat, soy and corn. Wake up people, stop filtering your minerals through another animal. Try eating some greens! there is more beneficial calcium in greens and also the dietary fiber required. If you are an adult and you still drink milk, well… you need to change your diaper or nappy you big baby lol!

    • Cheryl June 6, 2014, 11:44 am

      Lol. Brilliant! I think the main reason people are so ignorant about the unnaturalness of milk and other dairy products is just because they don’t want to give them up because they are addictive. Certain foods are like drugs to many people and it is hard for them to get off them.

    • Kay April 2, 2014, 11:41 pm

      Guess I should go change my diaper then because it turns out I am a baby. Yum milk!

      Anyway, maybe you should read more about anti nutrients because they are present in vegetables and legumes with a high calcium content. Have fun!

  71. Gator February 18, 2014, 1:15 pm

    There’s a sucker born every minute.

    • Karen February 25, 2014, 8:39 am

      Actually there is more value in cats milk then cow milk.. People believe anything but if you do your research you will find that cows milk is bad for you more then it is good.. Also take an elephant and a giraffe and they only nurse their young as babies. Adult animals do not drink it at all and they are huge animals …hmmm think about it..

  72. Eli February 14, 2014, 7:01 pm

    Vegen Taliban. Wants us to not eat any animal products because she thinks it’s morally wrong. So she says that they are all unhealthy even though the human race has survived off animal proteins since we the beginning of our existence. And cures a bunch of studies from twenty years ago?? Bs I say.

  73. awesome February 13, 2014, 6:10 pm

    i am totes way smarter to NOT drink milk, dudes. :(
    i fell bad for the people that are vegatirain….
    i am looking at you cara…

  74. Buster February 12, 2014, 1:06 pm

    I drank a glass of 2% milk yesterday and when I stood up from the table, all my bones shattered. I’m going to eat some yogurt and hopefully they will all come back together.

    • Val Cosmos February 24, 2014, 11:16 pm

      Wow, those stories echo with mine. Two days ago I added a spoonful of milk to my coffee, although I usually don

    • Internettroll February 21, 2014, 3:34 pm

      I had a bowl of cereal yesterday and this morning when I woke up, I stepped out of bed and broke my hip! Really painful, I believe that if I eat yogurt maybe my hip will heal itself overnight, say no to milk! :)

  75. Joanna Lister February 12, 2014, 10:17 am

    for those who prefer some scientific info.. and yes dairy is one of the cruelest industries in the world, and then there is of course the allowable somatic cell count in your milk – yes pus that is allowed in your milk..

  76. anonymous February 12, 2014, 9:27 am

    This article makes me wanna have a tall glass of milk with some cheese.

    • Sadie May 14, 2014, 12:09 pm

      Haha after reading this article and some comments, I drank a glass of milk. I am lactose intolerant but I never would stop drinking milk or eat yoghurt and cheese. Some people really are easy to convince.

    • Karen February 25, 2014, 8:40 am

      mhmm puss milk yea !!!

      • Karen February 25, 2014, 8:42 am

        My Uncle had a dairy farm is retired now.. Would never drink what he sold for profit.

    • cara February 13, 2014, 6:06 pm


  77. Lyn February 12, 2014, 6:39 am

    I love milk and milk products but I know my sinuses get blocked if I over do it. I started using soy in my tea thinking it would be healthier and after a year of having 3 or 4 cups of tea a day with soy in, some of my teeth feel (rough) no matter how much I brush. I think the soy consumption maybe leaching the calcium from my teeth, don’t know, bit of a concern, so have gone back to cows milk.

  78. Willy February 12, 2014, 1:57 am

    FACT: All proteins are made up of Amino Acids. All proteins are acidic regardless of their source. This article is totally bogus.

    • jon February 19, 2014, 6:55 pm

      Sigh. Don’t you wish you could make an off the cuff remark and that make it automatically true? Do your research. Milk is loaded with protien. You might think that is good but you body cannot process protien or amino acids without magnesium. So as you are loading you body full of useless protien the acid is damaging your bones.

      • Inoculum March 12, 2014, 10:18 am

        Sigh…Seems you didn’t do any research. Who told you that magnesium is needed to process proteins? Proteins are processed into peptides by the pepsin protease in our stomach WITHOUT the use of magnesium. Further cleavage is done by a bunch of pankreas enzymes. So your claims are totally bogus.
        There are indeed some metalloproteases but I think they play a minority role in the digestion system.

      • Visien Vinesa March 4, 2014, 10:09 am

        I agree with you. Magnesium is rarely mentioned in articles explaining milk myth.

  79. DTran February 11, 2014, 3:21 pm

    Boom. Here is a new study that shows no correlation between animal protein and calcium loss. Do better research please. If you are an strength base athlete, you are gonna eat a lot of meat to built muscle yet powerlifters, bodybuilders, and Oly lifters are lifting huge amount of weights and their bone can support. Weight training helps support healthy bones. Those studies from the 90′s that you listed only prove that people are living sedentary lifestyles.

  80. Aasim Soomro February 10, 2014, 11:57 pm

    My response to this article:
    In response to your article:
    1. The burden of proof is on the one making the crazy claim, which is “Milk leaches calcium from bones.” -The author says there are many studies, yet hasn’t provided a link to even one.
    2. The second point doesn’t really say why it’s bad for you or your bones. It just says that cow’s milk is really good for calves – nobody’s arguing that.
    3. Regarding the increased fracture risk: Correlation does not imply causation. Just because two variables are statistically associated, doesn’t mean one of them causes the other. It could be that people that drink a lot of milk also drink a lot of soda and eat a lot of cookies – both sweet, acidic foods that could be causing the brittle bones. Also, just because milk doesn’t prevent fractures does not mean that it’s bad or unnatural to drink it.
    4. More statistics that attempt to imply causation – But they do not account for confounding factors, such as countries that drink less milk, have a lower GDP, and thus die of other bacterial and viral illnesses before developing chronic conditions such as osteoporosis. Or perhaps countries drinking more milk get less vitamin D, which is important for absorption of the calcium.
    5. Something about a Positive Renal Acid Load – No proof or link to study making such claim, and a quick google search on PRAL and dairy only showed a study done on infants – aka people who haven’t developed a complete acid-base buffering system. Moreover, I’m running into a lot of studies that claim “high protein intake” (eating lots of meat) is causing the metabolic acidosis and calcium leaching, not dairy protein (casein/whey) specifically.
    6. Yogurt, the super beneficial food, comes from milk, and why is yogurt “good” according to the author? Because it’s acid-netural. And so the entire beef (no pun intended) the author has with milk boils down to the fact that it is an acidic substance. Yes, milk is very slightly acidic (pH = 6.7), but it is still not clear whether this slight acidity is directly linked to calcium leakage from bones.

    • Kelly March 27, 2014, 10:56 am

      The dairy industry has never given us scientific proof that milk is good for the bones and therefore it is just sellerstalk.

    • P. Anderegg February 12, 2014, 8:25 am

      I have not drunk milk since I was twelve y.o.
      I have had any number of falls on ice, snow, dog poop and other wet surfaces over the years.
      I have never broken any bones. When I took calcium pills, my legs cramped.
      I drink lots of water and my bone density tests show that my bones have post-menopausal syndrome which is because I am over seventy. The Doctor says I am in no danger of breaking bones.

      • Martha April 11, 2014, 8:04 pm

        Your bones have “post menopausal syndrome”? Just your bones, right?


      • Adam February 12, 2014, 12:55 pm

        I drink milk all the time and have never broken a bone. I have had very physical jobs and fallen off a ladder. I’ve smacked my fingers with a hammer. Never broken a bone. Correlation is not necessarily causation. :)

  81. Damian Ayre February 10, 2014, 12:14 am

    Then why aren’t the 100′s of millions of people, who drank milk their entire lives, all suffering from Osteoporosis ? You say that they are losing calcium when they drink milk and yet most people have been drinking milk every day. By your logic they should all have extremely brittle bones by the time they are 20 years old. The people of Wisconsin should have the most fragile bones in the world…but they don’t.

    I’m 44 now and I drank a ton of milk from the time I was 9 years old up until last year when I went vegan. I drank more milk when I was growing up than 99% of the boys in the world. When I was a teenager I was drinking 3/4 to 1 gallon of milk every day. My bones are very strong, I’ve led a very active life with sports, including football and the martial arts, and being in the military for 3 years and I’ve never broken a single bone.

    There are more lies and half-truths in this article than there are facts.

    • Michael B February 10, 2014, 11:08 am

      Nearly a third of Americans over 65 years old has, or will have, osteoporosis. Countries with low dairy intake have fare lower rates of osteoporosis. Countries with higher per captia rates of dairy consumption also have far higher rates of osteoporosis and cancer.

      Think about it… a mother’s breast secretions are designed to make babies grow as fast as possible. It is designed to stimulate fast, aggressive growth for a limited period during infancy. As you age, the LAST thing you want is a substance that accelerates growth in your body, hence the tumor and cancer connection with decades of drinking dairy.

      You might try reading the China Study for more information on this topic and the dangerous effects on humans, especially adult humans, consuming a cow’s breast secretions. Or watch the movie Forks over Knives.

      • DLH February 13, 2014, 6:48 pm

        Sorry, no sale. I lived in Asia, where recent generations’ dairy intake has gone up – as has their height, strength, and posture. I had never seen so many older adults with osteoporosis, and am betting it’s because dairy wasn’t huge there when they were young. Sick of made-up scary facts about food. Most of them can only be verified through “sources” already advocating some kind of alternative lifestyle. All the healthiest people I know consume dairy. Nice try, though.

      • Sal February 11, 2014, 1:55 pm

        Michael, the osteoporosis statistic has been linked to the massive consumption of cola based drinks (Coca Cola) which actively prevents calcium from being absorbed. Yes, overconsumption of milk is bad. As is the overconsumption of any other product. Moderate amounts of milk are quite beneficial to the human body.

        • Mason Slaughter March 10, 2014, 11:31 am

          You say its biased but what gives you the authority to say that. As a matter of fact the best studies ever conducted about animal products and its effects on the human body were done by Dr. Campbell. He was a dairy farmer he went into all of his studies biased, and left enlightened. Stop trying to justify your habits by dissing our facts. Until you have devoted your life to unveiling all the myths associated with modern food industry, then you can talk

          • Kathy April 11, 2014, 8:05 pm

            Dr. Campbell found out he could make a lot more money selling books to fools than as a dairy farmer. His book is a joke.

  82. Jenna February 9, 2014, 2:55 pm

    Just want to put this out there… I’ve always been naturally very thin, but had cellulite on thighs and butt.. even as a 106 lb active teenager on swim team. I was raised to drink a glass of milk with every meal. At almost 30 now.. I’ve been avoiding milk and all dairy for about a year. My cellulite disappeared. It was like magic. I have no proof except for my own body, but fat cells seem to sit a bit different when you cut out milk. Just saying..

  83. Alex February 6, 2014, 10:13 am

    Studies that “prove” that milk is a bad source of calcium are biased, like most researches trying to discredit animal proteins in general.
    You do not need just calcium to make bones, you also need fat soluble vitamins. Those researches have been done in the US, where milk is skimmed because fats are sssso bad! Cultures who drink full fat milk (northern Europe, Greece, nomad herder tribes all over the world, etc) do pretty fine.

    That said, milk has other issues (caseins, lactose) that’s why I rarely have diary and in those cases I have full fermented yoghurt or kefir and aged cheeses.

    Then there are ethical concerns, too, of course.

    • DLH February 13, 2014, 6:48 pm

      Agree. I lived in Asia, where recent generations’ dairy intake has gone up – as has their height, strength, and posture. I had never seen so many older adults with osteoporosis, and am betting it’s because dairy wasn’t huge there when they were young. Sick of made-up scary facts about food. Most of them can only be verified through “sources” already advocating some kind of alternative lifestyle. All the healthiest people I know consume dairy.

  84. LM February 5, 2014, 5:51 pm

    Wonderful, wonderful info!! I knew milk was generally unhealthy, but now I know why. In recent years, I completely omit milk and milk products from my diet since I have asthma – heard it was terrible for respiratory conditions. I am amazed at how much better I feel (not sluggish) and I have fewer asthma attacks and URI’s after making this dietary change! And also to learn I’m doing the right thing for my bones is even better reason to never go back.

    • HS-MD February 5, 2014, 11:21 pm

      The changes you are experiencing are most likely attributed to other factors that you have changed along with cutting milk and milk products out of your diet. While reducing cheese or butter intake is a great way to lose weight, cutting milk does not carry the same load at all.

      Milk will not exacerbate your asthma, and I challenge you to find the actual vetted study that showed a correlation. This article is unbelievably bias and it is due to people “sounding smart” that we have public health issues such as the stigma against vaccinations. When reading articles such as this, ask yourself the following:

      1) Is this a valid source on its own (a vetted journal article/review)

      2) Is this article from a governmental regulator/site (aka a .gov site)

      3) If none of the above are present, then are the references to the facts and claims they making present; if not then do not take it seriously because more often than not: It is not true.

      If you follow the source of this article, the actual studies are not cited anywhere. In fact, the proper rebuttal to each point is made in the comments by a gentleman named Alan, with a Harvard source that counter the issues made against milk.

      Continue the good work that has reduced your asthmatic exacerbation, I presume the reduction in milk product consumption was accompanied with exercise and overall better eating/lifestyle habits. However, do not criminalize a Vitamin/Mineral powerhouse such as milk.

      For some power to my opinion, I have a Bacherlor’s in Honours Biochemistry from Concordia University, MSc in Protein Chemistry from Concordia University and am currently in my 2nd year of Medical School (McGill University) in Canada.

      • dean February 11, 2014, 6:20 pm

        You sound smart and you claim to have credentials that would indicate that is the case, but the potential that this is not the case is greatly increased by the fact you would claim governmental regulators or sites lend credence to any argument. Then again, maybe I’m just too cynical :)

        • Ben February 13, 2014, 11:44 am

          Hey, look! It’s another anti-gubment person who’s afraid of real science. You’re welcome for all those eradicated diseases, by the way. ;)

  85. Chrism February 1, 2014, 11:23 am

    It’s hard to believe, so it seems like ill continue to drink milk :)

    • Eddie February 3, 2014, 10:13 pm

      Chrism: The writing is on the wall. Open your mind.

    • Yara February 3, 2014, 8:32 pm

      I never knew what a scam milk was! Wow! I used to drink a lot, but now my bones are safe.

  86. Margaret Hurley January 27, 2014, 10:05 pm

    Dear Vivian
    You mention that drinking milk is not good for your bones but it is OK to eat plain unsweetened organic yogurt. You have not mentioned anything about cheese. Should one stay away from Cheese as it is also a dairy product. Or do the same comments made in regard to yogurt also apply to cheese? Comments anyone?


    • HS-MD February 5, 2014, 11:35 pm

      One thing to keep in mind is the correlation between Countries That Consume Milk vs. Osteoporosis is one filled with confounding factors:

      For example, have you noticed that countries that consume milk also have higher life expectancy? Permitting people to reach the point of developing osteoporosis? Furthermore, these countries have people whom are more sedentary and less likely to be exposed to enough sunlight to generate Vitamin D – a Calcium absorbing and depositing necessity!

      In terms of Cheese vs. Milk vs. Yogurt (Organic or Not); it all has to do with your body itself. Cheese is very heavy in terms of fat and gives you a tad more than you need, especially with the average person overloading food with cheese additives. If losing weight is not a concern for you, then eating cheese should not be either. Yogurt is always a good option for snacking, and probiotics are known to boost your immune system by adding some nice flora to the bacteria that live in your gut, so there’s no issue with Yogurt consumption either.

      As far as Milk is concerned, it IS a great source of Calcium and energy for the day – in fact, milk is a great vector for the Government (a body that is vilified unjustly on this site) to add nutrients to your diet that you otherwise wouldn’t add, such as Vitamin D.

      Do not shut down Milk as being dangerous, here are some questions you should asked for reading articles like this in the future:

      1) Is this a valid source on its own (a vetted journal article/review)

      2) Is this article from a governmental regulator/site (aka a .gov site)

      3) If none of the above are present, then are the references to the facts and claims they making present; if not then do not take it seriously because more often than not: It is not true.

      If you follow the source of this article, the actual studies are not cited anywhere. In fact, the proper rebuttal to each point is made in the comments by a gentleman named Alan, with a Harvard source that counter the issues made against milk.
      Continue the good work that has reduced your asthmatic exacerbation, I presume the reduction in milk product consumption was accompanied with exercise and overall better eating/lifestyle habits. However, do not criminalize a Vitamin/Mineral powerhouse such as milk.
      For some power to my opinion, I have a Bacherlor’s in Honours Biochemistry from Concordia University, MSc in Protein Chemistry from Concordia University and am currently in my 2nd year of Medical School (McGill University) in Canada.

      • What does the Fox say February 11, 2014, 5:24 am

        I think this is really hard to believe, It’s shocking, it’s like reading an article about moon hoax. I told my friends about this but they would just laugh about it. But let’s be clear people. There is a 12 years

  87. John January 24, 2014, 4:21 pm

    Thank god I have lactose intolerance. Sad for people who have been drinking milk daily.

    • J February 1, 2014, 12:43 pm

      no, john. no.

    • T January 30, 2014, 9:35 am

      john no

  88. Carson January 23, 2014, 11:55 am

    If its true that the calcium leaves our bones because of the acid in the foods we consume, wouldn’t that mean that drinking orange juice or eating other healthy high acid fruits would also cause bone deterioration? Someone explain this to me.

    • joe January 23, 2014, 2:17 pm

      Understanding ph in the body isnt as simple as that. The ph scale is based on how the body handles acidity, not strictly whether the food is acidic or not. Animal protein, tho not acidic, atleast in the case of milk, leads to a lower ph in the blood, which forces the body to respond with calcium or magnesium or iodine or what have you to put the ph of the blood back into the proper range of 6.8-7.2.

      • HS-MD February 5, 2014, 11:41 pm

        This reply is false, your first clue should be that he thinks the Blood pH is 6.8-7.2 (It SHOULD be from 7.35-7.45), what he is describing are SERIOUS problems you could see with somebody in shock or diabetic keto-acidosis!

        As far as Carson’s original question. for a healthy person the pH regulation of the stomach is more than a match for the consumption of milk itself, and acidic drinks such as orange juice will be countered by a chain of metabolic responses to counter the acidity once your stomach contents enter the duodenum (The region of the intestines right outside of the stomach).

  89. bm January 22, 2014, 9:48 pm

    FYI We are not the only ones that drink other animals milk. Orphaned animals drink from any lactating mother that will let them. LOOK IT UP.

    • Spero February 8, 2014, 3:25 am

      We are the only species that drinks milk after infantcy especially another species milk.

      • caitlin February 19, 2014, 4:59 pm

        I know right ewww

      • Tyler February 14, 2014, 1:20 pm

        The only reason they stop is because the mother is no longer able to practically provide for their children’s nutritional needs solely through their milk. Can you imagine how aggravated your mother would be if she was your and your siblings only source of nutrition, even into adulthood. And what would happen to you when your mother died? You wouldn’t have had time to adapt to solid food, and would die from lack of nutrition.

    • joe January 23, 2014, 2:28 pm

      Not past the common 7 months of breast feeding. And this is due to the animals need for nutrients, most certainly not because they have the urge to seek milk elsewhere from their species, milk nolonger becomes a staple in their diet past a certain age, either, so your comment is irrelevant. The principle arguement is why do we ingest milk from cows that are forced into pregnancy but we dont treat our wives that same way? They produce milk specifically designed for us. Why not force them into being pregnant and then milk them for your neighborhood.

      • Rebecca January 24, 2014, 11:43 am

        That comment is totally absurd! We don’t treat animals by human standards. This does NOT constitute animal abuse, either. People leave their dogs outside with a doghouse for shelter or put them on dog runs. This is not cruel to dogs. People have different needs than animals. As for keeping women pregnant for their milk? How absurd is that!? Actually there ARE women who donate their breast milk to hospitals for sick or premature babies. With having three children, I was in a constant state of lactation for over five years. What did I do with my excess milk? I put it in the refrigerator for my older kids to drink. They LOVED it! Most 5 and 6 year old children are NOT breast fed. However, my kids loved my milk and drank it in cups with their breakfast or lunch. These arguments are ridiculous and smell of people over obsessed with treating animals as human equals and NOT whether humans should consume milk.

        • joe January 26, 2014, 12:39 pm

          Ok, answer me this, have you seen and understand the life of an artificially inseminated cow or pig? Do you believe being in a constant state of pregnacy for 7 years as something any living thing would enjoy? And your arguement of lactating for 5 years is completely irrelevant, and the reason is, you were lactating, not producing 5 consecutive children while being made to endure sub standard living conditions as well as substand nutrition. And seperate to that,, i have provided the science behind the non dairy arguement, so do yourself a favor and broaden your feeble mind by do some research

          • Chuffy February 13, 2014, 2:37 pm

            Hi there, im from sweden and ive worked with cows a bit and let me tell you this: the cows that i worked with were friendly, curious and quite frankly they seemed perfectly happy actually im bold enough to say that they were happy.

          • Eddie February 3, 2014, 10:18 pm

            Thanks joe. It’s an uphill battle to educate people to a level where they can embody true empathy for the entire living world, not just the human world.

  90. Glen January 15, 2014, 9:00 pm

    The thing we all should keep away from is Bull$#!t. There’s plenty of it floating around here. Hey does anyone still try for a balanced diet, exercise and plenty of sunshine? There will always be persons in the community that have osteoporosis from genetic causes, just have to play with the cards you are dealt. At 43 years of age, using Fosamax for 7 years gave me 12 years without more repeated fractures so I was able to enjoy many active years. Been off it for several years and bone density is now rapidly deteriorating again, so – just got to be careful, try something else for a few years and just get on with enjoying the good things that I have.

  91. joe January 15, 2014, 8:19 pm

    I find some of these so called counter arguements on here troubling. To preface my comment, we should all understand that if you do not support this claim based on faulty science, then please, provide science that proves otherwise. The truth is, there is none. The NIH has made the following clear:

    Animal foods provide predominantly acid precursors, whereas protein in vegetable foods is accompanied by base precursors not found in animal foods.

    So to put this to rest, this article makes an absolutely scientifically correct claim. Milk raises your ph, which in turn does exactly as the article claims, your body respondes with an acid neutralizer, calcium. Seperate to that, modern dairy cows are treated terribly and injected with antibiotics, and hormones to counteract the troubles that accompany the fattening process of feeding the cows an unnatural corn based diet. These are irrefutable facts. Good informative article.

    • Rebecca January 23, 2014, 1:32 pm

      I’m not going to say one way or the other about this article, as I have not looked up this information. With that said, there is something that bothers me about your comment and makes me “feel” that you aren’t really understanding what you are talking about. Anyone that knows anything about chemistry knows that acids actually LOWER your pH and bases RAISE your pH.

      So your comment, “Milk raises your ph, which in turn does exactly as the article claims, your body respondes with an acid neutralizer, calcium.” is false.

      Raising your body pH would NOT induce your body to release calcium from your bones. LOWERING your body pH would. So are you believing everything you read that’s negative about certain foods OR do you actually know what you are talking about? Hopefully it’s a simple mistake.

      Like I said, I haven’t researched the topic. I’m not an authority on “milk” even though I’m not a milk drinker. But there are way too many people out there that believe everything that they read without doing the actual digging into the research. Something I WILL be doing about milk. My biggest milk drinking kid has broken the most bones. Coincidence? I don’t know.

      • T.S.S. February 3, 2014, 9:03 pm

        People, seriously. You need to put on your big girl/boy panties and take responsibility for your diet and research this info. There are MANY articles out there published by scientists that have PROVEN facts on this study. It’s not a bunch of bleeding heart activists whining over the treatment of animals. I won’t lie, my family loves milk, cheese, yogurt and a host of other dairy based items. Since learning about this (through other sources) about a month ago, my family has changed their whole diet and the way we look at foods. At first it was awkward, especially when I craved a big chunk of cheese, but we actually have been loosing wait and feeling better.

        Do your research before you comment. Thank you.

    • Tom January 16, 2014, 5:11 am

      In Europe there are strict laws against using antibiotics in dairy cows hormones are also banned in Europe and were never used in milking cows. As for your claim that cows are treated badly show some proof other than cherry picked youtube videos, any dairy farmer I know treat their cows very well.

      • joe January 16, 2014, 8:51 am

        Well, the american humane society reports 83% of dairy cows are restricted from grazing, 30-60% are fed substandard diets of slaughter waste, 63% receive artificial bovine growth hormone, and almost all dairy cows get their tails snipped without medication to help with pain. Do you believe those practices are natural? Are they ethical? Would you allow your children to recieve medical attention with total disregard for their comfort? Maybe lock them up all day restricting their movement? Thats all not considering the worst offense of extendes artificial insemination. Would you keep your wife pregnant for years on end? These are all unnatural and cruel.

        • VOR June 1, 2014, 9:30 am

          Your statistics may be true for a small rogue number of farms, but it in no way is the standard for the bovine industries. I know a dairy farmer and have been to the farm many times, and I can tell you that the animals are treated with consideration and kindness and genuine care for their overall well being. The facilities are kept so clean you could eat off the floors. There is no stench of urine or other smelly unmentionables. The animals themselves are very well kept, clean, fed only the best, they are never overworked, their health is a primary concern so they are monitored and treated promptly if needed. To many farmers, the animals are an extension of their families, they work effortlessly to continuously improve the comfort of their herds. It’s a shame that there have been immoral and cruel instances where animals were abused, but your average dairy farmer is just as upset as you are or maybe even a little more. These farmers and their families name each and every calf and are present for each and every birth. I have personally attended a Wedding where the guest of honour was the favoured cow. A happy animal (humans are animals too) is a productive contributor for the benefit of all life no matter where it lives or what is produced. More research and care goes into caring and providing for the animals than we do for ourselves and families. A dairy farmer would never alter the nutritional make up of the herd’s diet based solely on one viewpoint without first reviewing all raw, relevant data as well as analyzing whether the results will serve any positive benefit.

  92. Damjan January 15, 2014, 6:57 pm

    Alright, so I see you’re basing all this on the fact that milk has a pH of 6.5,which is, by the way, almost neutral, being so close to 7. Other beverages and foods such as orange juice, coffee, BANANAS, lemon juice, tomato juice, vinegar, all have even lower pH than milk, which makes them more acidifying, as you say. Lemon peaks at 2, orange juice is 3, bananas are 5, while tomato juice is 4. Should we stop consuming all of these acidic foods because the same effect might happen? Are all of these foods destroying our bones?

    I’m sorry, but your theory just doesn’t convince me. I’m not a fan of milk, I don’t drink it, and quite frankly I’m concerned about my calcium intake because I don’t. On the other hand, I find it very hard to digest dairy products, but that could just mean that I’m lactose intolerant, and not all people are. And while it does sound like common sense that no other animal drinks the milk of a species other than their own, and during infancy, maybe we’ve evolved and adapted. Take a look at dogs. They’ve been living around man for eons, and over time, adapted from being carnivores to becoming omnivores, because humans are omnivores by nature and whatever they left behind, the dogs ate. Wolves are carnivorous by nature, yet dogs eat just about anything they can find (their own feces, and the feces of others, mind you. My grandma had two dogs and a cat, once the cat defecated on the ground, and the dogs scared her away from it and ate it.), and they still live up to 14 years on average, which is normal for a dog. So to say we shouldn’t drink milk just because the other animals don’t do it, you just can’t claim it to be entirely true.

    • Kelvin January 24, 2014, 6:05 pm

      Dogs eat their own feaces because their digestive system does’nt fully process the food they eat, so the food is only partially digested …why waste a meal!

    • Melissa January 20, 2014, 11:48 am

      Acidic foods do not cause the body to become acidic, just like basic foods do not cause the body to become basic.

      They said *animal protein* causes this.

      The proteins in animal tissue tend to contain more of the sulfur-containing amino acids methionine and cysteine than the proteins of plants. This means that your body produces more sulfuric acid (battery acid!) when it burns animal protein than when it burns plant protein. As a result, eating animal protein produces an excess acid load in the body.

  93. Dr. Nick January 13, 2014, 4:03 pm

    Hey Vivian, did you go to Hollywood Upstairs Medical College, too?

    • David January 15, 2014, 1:21 pm

      No, Dr. Nick, she did not go to Hollywood Upstairs Medical College. She has an MA, Masters of Arts, but not an MD. Or a Ph.D., or an M.Sc., or even a B.Sc. which are a selection of degrees one should have if they are to begin spouting anti-Milk BS.

      • saj January 28, 2014, 10:50 am

        Ha! Well said! Those are the degrees you should have when talking so “scientifically” about such an important subject. Since I have heard this “debate” on milk I have been in search of solid concrete evidence linking these claims to milk. The only things I find so far against milk are “shady and sketchy to say the least. Can some one site me to a creditible source of info here? Not someones blog who knows arts, maybe some one or better yet an actually reputable authority on science?

  94. Christian January 12, 2014, 11:44 pm

    So stupid (I’m not referring to the article with this comment, though the article is false as the author is taking quotes out of context). I’m reading the comments and all I see is, “Other animals don’t drink milk from other animals”; “People can be lactose intolerant so milk is unnatural”; “The food industry is disgusting”; etc.

    While other animals don’t drink other animals’ milk, animals also don’t cook their food, don’t make giant complex houses, don’t drive vehicles they made themselves, etc. Why can’t people understand that humans are just a different kind of species?

    People can be lactose intolerant, yes. However, since when does being allergic to something you eat make this food suddenly unnatural? My friend is allergic to oranges, almonds, peanuts, milk, watermelon, and carrots. Are we just going to look at milk and point it out as the guilty subject? People can be allergic to a wide-variety of things, but that doesn’t change anything when it comes to what’s natural and what’s not; especially for very different humans.

    The food industry keeps you alive. Farmers keep you alive. You realize you can get organic food, small-farm food, etc. right? We have a dairy farm down the road from us that doesn’t use hormones, or other injections. We don’t buy from them, because let’s face it: healthy, all-natural food is too expensive. Cheapen the price, and maybe people will buy this special snowflake food! Otherwise, the lot of you are treating big dairy and food corporations as devils when not all of them are! You’re putting all of them in a huge bin, which is ignorant to say the least.

    To close, I see comments like, “Cutting out dairy has helped me so much,” and “Dairy has done nothing wrong to me.” Okay, so what? You realize every human is different, right? We’re not all affected by one thing and another. We’re all unique including our digestive systems. Milk may help others, however, it may worsen others. Is that so hard to understand? If you think you’re better off without milk, then go ahead and keep living that way. However, other people are doing just fine; I’ve never broken a bone when I’ve thought many times that I should have. But again, uniqueness also seems to be a factor many of us haven’t even considered.

    • Melissa January 14, 2014, 1:45 am

      Not only is milk bad for your health as proved by scientists and doctors, it is also one of the most cruelest industries on earth. Cows are continually artificially impregnated (raped) to enable them to get pregnant and produce milk. When their calf is born, he or she is taken away from his mother and not allowed to drink her milk – because he can’t drink his own mother’s milk that we want to steal and sell to humans? That makes no financial sense! Cows often scream for days on end for their baby that was taken away. How would you feel if someone took your newborn from you and used you as a milk producing factory? Boy calves (bobby calves) are considered a waste product of the industry and used for veal, leather or simply dumped in the trash. Girl calves will take their mother’s place when their mother finally collapses from all the unnatural milking and torture. Cows can live 20 years, but dairy cows live 4-6 years before they are spent, at which time their bodies get dragged to the house of slaughter. Isn’t this just the most complete and utter exploitation of motherhood and disregard for life? You only have to type “dairy cow investigation” into youtube to find hundreds of videos and evidence showing extreme abuse on dairy farms. Do you really want to be a part of that? For something that isn’t good for you to begin with? I mean, are we all still babies that need milk? When are we going to grow up and start taking responsibility for the consequences of our actions. And NO – it is not Satan’s fault if you get cancer or osteoporosis – it’s your own fault for consuming animal products when you are actually a herbivore!

      • Kelvin January 24, 2014, 6:19 pm

        2, not all farmers are the horrific sadists you make them out to be
        3, if there is so much evidence AGAIN NOT YOU TUBE to support this please supply a reference list so others can check the research for themselves. otherwise what you are providing is JUST YOUR OPINION

      • Mika January 24, 2014, 4:26 am

        Not sure where do you live and how close are you in dairy production, but you give me a picture of person who has never been in straight contact with it.
        Let me clear some facts in Finland.
        1. Unhealthy life for animal = Lower quality&quantity
        2. The calf can drink her mothers milk
        3. Healthy cow lives long = more profit/cow
        4. Pumping them full of drugs, will affect the quality of milk
        5. Our neighbor Russia, accepts only unprocessed food to be imported there = Less processing = More healthy (tastes better too)

        And about humans
        1. Were are not 100% herbivores
        2. Eating salad is good for you
        3. But you need meat.
        You can try to consume vitamins to compensate, but you need to have animal fat to make digesting system to be able take them in use.

        I eat about 85% of my food as herbal base, but also I eat wish and game.

        About milk.
        1. Good amount of milk varies between people. In Finland our digesting system has developed to be able to process animal milk, especially cows because of our need for vitamin D and calcium. (No sunlight in winter)
        2. This article writer is making a lot of assumptions.
        3. So do you (watching youtube videos does not increase credibility.)

        I have a lactose intolerance (very weird in here) but it manifests only when I consume processed milk. Anything else goes down with no problem. Fresh milk is no problem and it also verifies the fact that it is not dangerous to humans. But as I told, “danger” varies.

        But honestly, go out and see and try things by yourself….

  95. Richard Jones January 9, 2014, 1:11 am

    If you read the “Case-Control Study of Risk Factors for Hip Fractures in the Elderly”. American Journal of Epidemiology. Vol. 139, No. 5, 1994.
    The actual conclusion regarding that was that animal fats led to being overweight, which in turn had a negative affect on bone density. Other factors observed were smoking, physical activity, and weight.

    Both the quote from the American Journal of Public Health and the one from Amy Lanou are taken out of context to imply milk is detrimental to bone health. In actuality, they state that milk is neither detrimental nor beneficial.

    • Glen January 15, 2014, 9:29 pm

      Yeah, I’m 55, and have osteoporosis (again) after discontinuing Fosamax a few years ago.
      My diet is good with high fibre, vegies, fruit, fish, lean meat etc plus heaps of exercise (both cardio & weights). I surf every day but now have to avoid the larger waves and keep clear of aggressive surfers (as now I will always come off second best). Everything is super-perfect except for my bones. Have been getting heaps of fractures since age 22.
      NOTE !! — I have a TWIN brother who eats poorly but supplements his diet with plenty of beer, milkshakes and greasy fat hamburgers. He has a sedentary job and does little exercise. The result? He has excellent health and REALLY GOOD BONES – so do ALL my peers who share his poor lifestyle. Does one conclude that diet has no effect on bone health or do bones fare better when the body is neglected?

  96. Lynn January 9, 2014, 12:41 am

    Finally someones got their head on straight. We should market human breast milk rather than cow milk but everyone would just think thats crazy…

    • Trevor Evenson January 12, 2014, 11:58 pm

      I see that you are female, you want to volunteer for this great idea?

  97. Manny January 8, 2014, 2:56 am

    If milk is so bad for you , then why give it to children at school and babies and everyone else for that matte. Don’t you think that if milk is bad for you they would have taken it away from the market already.

    • stefan January 22, 2014, 3:23 am

      indeed ignorance kills!

    • Melissa January 14, 2014, 1:54 am

      Take off those blinders! If smoking is bad for you – why is it legally on the market. If alcohol is more dangerous than marijuana – then why is there a liquor store on every street? If GMO’s are proven not to be safe – why does 90% of the food on your shelves contain gmo’s? And why did Barack Obama sign the Monsanto Protection Act? If microwaving your food is not very good for you – then why can you buy one day or night? If fluoride is bad for you – then why is it in your toothpaste and in your tap water? If aluminium is very bad for you – then why is it in every antiperspirant on the market? DO YOU REALLY STILL THINK THERE IS SOME UNKNOWN PERSON OUT THERE LOOKING OUT FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY’S HEALTH? You are mistaken. It is your own responsibility to educate yourself about what you put into your mouth and feed your children. If you die from cancer one day caused by gmo’s for example, you cannot say that you didn’t know. Ignorance about what you eat and where it comes from and what you do to your own body is not an excuse, just like ignorance of the law is not an excuse.

      • Ben February 13, 2014, 11:57 am

        I’m just gonna’ note that most GMOs ARE safe.

    • Trevor January 12, 2014, 11:59 pm

      The dairy industry is powerful. The last thing they want to do is to have people stop using their products. So what do you think the motivation is?!

      • Glen January 13, 2014, 12:17 pm

        Your grammar is horrible.

    • o January 11, 2014, 6:53 pm

      is it possible that u r that much stupid??? probablly the milk did that to ya, … made u that much stupid. u idiot!

    • terni January 9, 2014, 6:39 am

      if “they” cared about what was bad for you they would have taken cigarettes, alcohol, processed foods, hormone and antibiotic filled foods, and genetically modified foods off the matket. but they dont so they havent. theres only one thing they care about and thats money. if they can mass produce it and the people want it, its going to be sold to us

      • Melissa January 14, 2014, 2:06 am

        Hi Terni. You are right. In a world where money and profit comes first, our health, the environment and everything else will always come secondary to that. “As a vegan I’m not really interested in discussing what type of diet our caveman ancestors ate, or whether God put animals here for us to eat, or if we can obtain enough protein from a plant-based diet, or if humans are biologically herbivore or omnivore. These are tired arguments. What we should be discussing is how we can move forward and evolve as a race. The killing of billions of animals every year for food and clothing has helped put this planet and its inhabitants in the crisis situation that we’re now faced with. And veganism offers a solution. Global warming, the declining health of our population, polluted waterways and depleted soil, fished out oceans, starvation in poor countries, species extinction and rain forest destruction are but a few of the problems that can be addressed and remedies if more people embraced a vegan lifestyle. This is why being vegan is so important…if offers viable solutions and compassionate answers. It saves lives….not only animal lives but very likely our own. The human race has baked itself into a corner, veganism offers a way out. Lets move forward” – Rich Lysloff

        • saj January 28, 2014, 11:23 am

          Please “Veganisim” is not a cure all to our global problems. Don’t you think if everyone gave up meat today, a hell of a lot more land would be needed to farm veggies for all the new vegans? I mean come on, the solutions to the worlds problems doesn’t fit into that one tiny box. Sorry. Its way bigger and way more complicated then that..

    • Kendal January 8, 2014, 5:26 pm

      You’re right. Because so many people believe in outdated information, it must be right. So many people just can’t be wrong…. and look at cigarettes and all those old “9 out of 10 doctors smoke Marlboros” ads. Doctors are always right….

      • Melissa January 14, 2014, 2:11 am

        Hi Kendal. You are right. We are carrying on with practices which are very outdated and detrimental to our health and our planet, all in the name of palate pleasure, tradition and profit. It makes no sense. Yes our ancestors ate meat, but we are not Neanderthals and cannot keep looking to the past to justify our cruel and barbaric present.

  98. Brett December 29, 2013, 5:52 pm

    I’d just like to applaud everyone leaving sensible, polite and thoughtful comments. It’s only through our own research, study and investigating that we should draw conclusions, inn all aspects of our lives. Let’s hear all sides of the argument but leave out the rude and derogatory language.
    For my part I’d say that cows milk is designed for calves and to my knowledge no animal on the planet drinks another’s milk into adulthood?

  99. Anymous December 28, 2013, 6:03 pm

    Truvia is ok. But honey still has sugar. I think honey tastes better but you shouldent add lots of honey because it is less processed.

  100. sirian181st December 26, 2013, 8:20 pm

    Oh and I notice that while they point out that your body regulates blood acidity by removing calcium from your bones, the exact same chemical that causes the osteoclasts increased activity putting more calcium from the bones into the blood also causes more calcium to be taken up from the urine and GI tract. Also the system is based on the blood calcium level so if you had been drinking milk then you would have a higher blood calcium level anyway and so your body wouldn’t need to add anymore. I’m sorry but this article is just the most agenda driven, one-sided piece you could imagine. It is doing nothing short of intentionally decieveing you.

    • Dan December 30, 2013, 11:19 am

      Just out of curiosity, what do you think the “agenda” is? Informing people of the possible adverse affects of drinking milk to improve their health doesn’t seem like such a bad agenda. The dairy industry has spents billions upon billions of dollars pushing their agenda and brainwashing society to think they must drink milk. Aside from the relative lack of any practical value in an adult human’s diet, there is actually emerging evidence that seems to suggest a causal relationship between dairy consumption and hormone driven cancers such as prostate, testicular and breast. The rates of these forms of cancer have skyrocketed in Japan over the last 50 years, which coincides with their adoption of a dairy-heavy diet.

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