Did you know that in Medieval England parents would tie rabbits' feet around their babies’ necks to ward off illness? Doctors would also spit on wounds because saliva was believed to have healing properties.
Indeed, history is replete with unfounded health beliefs, and to everyone’s detriment, the milk myth is among the most tenacious.
Milk is much more than just a drink; it’s a cultural phenomenon that can be traced back thousands of years. And still today, the milk myth resonates loud and clear: in 2001, the average American child consumed 104 quarts of cow’s milk.
Milk depletes the calcium from your bones
The milk myth has spread around the world based on the flawed belief that this protein and calcium-rich drink is essential to support good overall health and bone health in particular at any age. It is easy to understand that the confusion about milk's imaginary benefits stems from the fact that it contains calcium – around 300 mg per cup.
But many scientific studies have shown an assortment of detrimental health effects directly linked to milk consumption. And the most surprising link is that not only do we barely absorb the calcium in cow’s milk (especially if pasteurized), but to make matters worse, it actually increases calcium loss from the bones. What an irony this is!
Here’s how it happens. Like all animal protein, milk acidifies the body pH which in turn triggers a biological correction. You see, calcium is an excellent acid neutralizer and the biggest storage of calcium in the body is – you guessed it… in the bones. So the very same calcium that our bones need to stay strong is utilized to neutralize the acidifying effect of milk. Once calcium is pulled out of the bones, it leaves the body via the urine, so that the surprising net result after this is an actual calcium deficit.
Knowing this, you’ll understand why statistics show that countries with the lowest consumption of dairy products also have the lowest fracture incidence in their population (there’s more on this later).
But the sad truth is that most mainstream health practitioners ignore these proven facts. I know it firsthand because when I was diagnosed with osteoporosis, my doctor recommended that I drink lots of milk in addition to taking Fosamax.
Fortunately, I did neither, because I knew that…
Cow’s milk is custom-designed for calves
Thanks to our creative ingenuity and perhaps related to our ancient survival needs, we adopted the dubious habit of drinking another species’ milk. Nobody can dispute that cow’s milk is an excellent food source for calves. Weighing around 100 pounds at birth, a calf typically gains approximately eight times its weight by the time it is weaned. But unlike humans, once calves are weaned, they never drink milk again. And the same applies to every mammalian species on this planet.
Also, each mammalian species has its own “designer” milk, and cow’s milk is no exception. For example, cow’s milk contains on average three times the amount of protein than human milk which creates metabolic disturbances in humans that have detrimental bone health consequences.
It's important to bear in mind that mother’s milk is excellent nourishment for human babies, but its composition is very different from cow’s milk.
Scientific studies show that milk increases fracture risk
Many scientific studies contradict the conventional wisdom that milk and dairy consumption help reduce osteoporotic fractures. Surprisingly, studies demonstrating that milk and dairy products actually fail to protect bones from fractures outnumber studies that prove otherwise. Even drinking milk from a young age does not protect against future fracture risk but actually increases it. Shattering the “savings account” calcium theory, Cumming and Klineberg report their study findings as follows:
“Consumption of dairy products, particularly at age 20 years, was associated with an increased risk of hip fracture in old age. (“Case-Control Study of Risk Factors for Hip Fractures in the Elderly”. American Journal of Epidemiology. Vol. 139, No. 5, 1994).1
And the 12 year long Harvard Nurses' Health Study found that those who consumed the most calcium from dairy foods broke more bones than those who rarely drank milk. This is a broad study based on 77,761 women aged 34 through 59 years of age.
In the authors’ own words:
“These data do not support the hypothesis that higher consumption of milk or other food sources of calcium by adult women protects against hip or forearm fractures.” (Source: Feskanich D, Willett WC, Stampfer MJ, Colditz GA. Milk, dietary calcium, and bone fractures in women: a 12-year prospective study. American Journal of Public Health. 1997).2
Shocking statistics ignored by mainstream medicine
In the Osteoporosis Reversal Program one of the topics I discuss is the complete disregard of scientific evidence that discredits milk and dairy products as the best source of calcium.
One exception is Amy Lanou Ph.D., nutrition director for the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine in Washington, D.C., who states that:
“The countries with the highest rates of osteoporosis are the ones where people drink the most milk and have the most calcium in their diets. The connection between calcium consumption and bone health is actually very weak, and the connection between dairy consumption and bone health is almost nonexistent.”
Surprised? You shouldn’t be, because as I mentioned earlier in this article…
Milk is an acidifying animal protein
Like any other animal derived protein-rich food, milk has a positive potential renal acid load (PRAL) which triggers a protective biological reaction to neutralize all the damaging acidic protein before it reaches the kidneys.
The body is designed for survival, so it sacrifices bone density to protect the kidneys and urinary tract because the latter are essential to survival. And the most readily available source of acid neutralizer is in the bones. So even though milk contains calcium, it ends up sapping your bones of that crucial mineral. But that’s not all because…
Today’s milk is a processed food
Until the end of the 19th century in Europe and the beginning of the 20th century in the US, milk was consumed unpasteurized or raw. Later on, homogenization became the industry’s standard. These processes further alter milk’s chemistry and actually increase its detrimental acidifying effects.
Raw milk advocates claim that if cow’s milk is left “as is” it is a healthy and wholesome drink. It is true that raw milk is less acidifying than processed milk and that pasteurization and homogenization may cause a long list of digestive and other health problems, but I still don’t recommend drinking any kind of cow’s milk.
Nowadays, milking cows are given antibiotics and most are also injected with a genetically engineered form of bovine growth hormone (rBGH). A man-made or synthetic hormone used to artificially increase milk production, rBGH also increases blood levels of the insulin-growth factor 1 (IGF-1) in those who drink it. And higher levels of IGF-1 are linked to several cancers.
This should not be ignored, especially in view of recent information by Samuel Epstein, MD, Professor of Environmental Medicine at the University of Illinois School of Public Health, and Chairman of the Cancer Prevention Coalition. In a press release titled “Monsanto's Hormonal Milk Poses Serious Risks of Breast Cancer, Besides Other Cancers” (June 21, 1998) Dr. Epstein concludes that:
“Drinking rBGH milk would thus be expected to significantly increase IGF-1 blood levels and consequently to increase risks of developing breast cancer and promoting its invasiveness.”
Even though organic milk is from cows that are not given antibiotics or rBHG, if you truly care about your bone health and your overall health, you should…
Avoid drinking cow’s milk
As I explain in the Osteoporosis Reversal Program and contrary to mainstream recommendations, drinking milk and eating lots of dairy products are not the answer to reversing osteoporosis. And while in the Osteoporosis Reversal Program no food is completely off limits, I strongly recommend that you explore the different milk substitute options that I will list for you here.
But first, I’d like to clarify that unsweetened fermented or cultured dairy products such as yogurt, kefir, and sour cream are acid neutral. Yogurt in particular is chock-full of beneficial qualities. As is the case with milk, organic yogurt does not have rBGH, but even several of the most well-known yogurt brands have stopped using the bovine growth hormone (rBGH). You should call your favorite yogurt company to confirm. One more clarification: when I say unsweetened I mean without sugar or any artificial sweetener. However, you can add honey or stevia, a zero calorie plant-derived sweetener that is delicious and alkalizing as well. I like to carry around stevia packets in my purse so that I'm always able to sweeten food or drinks when I'm on the go.
The best milk substitutes
My favorite milk substitute is unsweetened almond milk, not only because it is alkalizing (as almonds are), but also because it's delicious and tastes very similar to milk. I even cook with it!
If almond milk is hard to get, you can also try rice or soy milk. I strongly suggest consuming only organic soy milk to insure it’s not made with genetically modified soy. There is also some controversy about unfermented soy products, so try to use it in moderation.
What Else Haven't They Told You?
What else have you been told about bone health by your doctor or other “experts” that is flat out wrong? What other “facts” (like drinking milk does a body good) are keeping you from optimal health?
Myths like these are a big reason I created the Osteoporosis Reversal Program. To give you the straight scoop on how to deal with osteoporosis the natural way.
I can help you take control of your future.
Learn more about the Osteoporosis Reversal Program here →
And remember, if you ever hear someone ask “Got milk?” smile and think to yourself “No, because I know better!”
And as always, I'd love to hear your thoughts. Share them with me and the rest of our community by leaving a comment below.
References
1 Cumming RG, Klineberg RJ. “Case-Control Study of Risk Factors for Hip Fractures in the Elderly”. American Journal of Epidemiology. Vol. 139, No. 5, 1994
2 Feskanich D, Willett WC, Stampfer MJ, Colditz GA. Milk, dietary calcium, and bone fractures in women: a 12-year prospective study. American Journal of Public Health. 1997
Great article. Thanks teaching more about how this product is damaging people. Having said that I am lactose intollerant and have always looked for healthier options. I even tried using carrot juice in my cereal once! What a fail! Kepp up the good work.
Im glad you’re making wise decisions, I wish you good health but don’t try and act like everyone has dairy related health issues. I drink over a gallon a day and have never had a single problem stemming from my dairy intake. I can drink milk and eat pickles without even a belch. My system can handle it just fine.
I was think the same that milk is not good for our health from my experiance i staryed getting joint pains etc after started taking the fresh milk and My son had second forearm fracture, he is taking milk n cheeze everyday . When i tookhim to Dr n dr asks me are you not giving him enough milk? I stopped taking milk for few months n my joints feel better now
damn nigga u sound retarded, u ok?
it must’ve been the milk (joking)
If your joints hurt you after drinkink milk, it can be that calcium is accumulating in the joints. Same can happen if you consume calcium enriched water for example. By the way, your bones can become more fragile if you consume too much sodium fluoride.
i’m drinking milk right now
Some people have no problem digesting dairy its just the way things are. My dairy intake is so high that I’d be dead by now if this article was true for every person.
I’m drinking a huge glass of milk right now!
Milk does contain a lot of protein, but it contains three times the amount that humans need which can cause metabolic disturbances. Cow’s milk also contains a sugar called lactose that can be difficult for some people to digest, resulting in symptoms such as nausea, cramps, and bloating. But the worst issue is that most dairy cattle are injected with a cocktail of hormones to artificially increase milk production. You may not think that will be harmful, but it can later lead to prostate cancer and/or breast cancer. So cow’s milk IS NOT GOOD for you.
What if your calorie intake is over 3 times that of the average person. Think about it, I consume 6000+callories on the average day. I’m also 184lbs of muscle and 6ft 2in. My weight doesn’t fluctuate and I’m healthier than the average. Technically I should be dead or at least obese. Reason why I’m just fine is because i hand forge swords and axes on a daily basis. Im burning those callories faster than I can eat them most times. So I easily digest over a gallon of milk a day. Been doing this since I was young. Science at it’s best is only a guideline. My college professor for chemistry told me one time that the reason science calls every discovery a theory instead of fact is because fact doesn’t exist. Look into it, even in chemistry they have room for error on minute things you would think are fact. We barely have an understanding of this reality on a scientific level.
The RISK of getting ovarian & prostate cancer INCREASES
If you live far up north the sun is just enough to create d vitamines half the year and if you don’t eat enough fish like most americans do for some reason milk doesn’t help. Most people looking down upon us milkdrinkers often use butter, cream, creme fraiche which lacks a lot of nutrients you find in milk. Fish oil is the same shit. Eat your f………..g hamburgers if you think it is healthy. Do you think it is good for the bones not getting calcium or d vitamines? I do not eat meat myself but I would recommend eting lower amounts and quality meat with a good omega 6/3 ratio and avoid high heat cooking.
Avoid high heat cooking? yeah right I like my food to taste good
Too much-opinionated passion on this thread. I have only one question. If we drink cow milk to get calcium, where the cow get the calcium from? Can we get it first hand from the same o similar source, or should we get it second hand from the cow?
I’m not quite sure what your asking but…. If your looking for an alternative solution nuts and dark greens are a great source of calcium. Plus they are a lot healthier than milk.
Broccoli is a good source for calsium and strong bones. And other vegetables aswell.
Go outside and synthesize you own vitamin D and Calcium
Sorry guy, yogurt and kefir are NOT acid neutral. In fact, the method of production PROMOTES formulation of lactic acid and most yogurts are indeed more acidic than milk for this fact. As someone eloquently stated above, there’s too much bullshit in this article to waste time on refuting on an individual basis, but this point particularly bothered me (and possibly anyone else who has a keen interest in fermented foods).
I take BORON to increase my bone health. Not too many people know about it… Research it. There is a doctor that give a very good presentation about Boron and bone health on YouTube…. His name is Dr. Flechas.
“In ancient times, people used to spit on wounds for healing….” : This is unserstandable since saliva is antibacterial ( thus protects the teeth) cures the wounds faster.
Except the part where your saliva contains lots of germ and that people still get cavities and mouth sores regardless of the saliva. There’s not much worse you could do that rub saliva in an open wound. The saliva does not stop the germs, your stomach acid is the barrier between your body and the germs, NOT your saliva. Your skin is the barrier between germs and your blood so rubbing saliva in it is horrible!!
salvia can help on wounds especially if you are somewhere deep in nature, with no medics around. Licking an open cut can help. At least it helped me on myself a lot of times. There are lots of theorys out there new and old. But just because something is old does not make it a bad thing. There is a lot we do not know.
I drink Almond Milk fortified with 45% calcium as a supplement to help me get calcium from foods rather than supplements. Also, afraid to take anything with Algaecal (your TrueOsteo supplement) because there is unresolved controversy that it contains lead – more than anyone would normally and inadvertently get. My current concern is to somehow intake the minerals, like adequate magnesium, to be able to use calcium. I am tracking calcium and protein and beginning to track other minerals one-by-one.
This article is false. It is clearly designed to advertise veganism. As a person with an open mind, I’ve come to the valid conclusion that milk is good for you but just not in high doses.
It is obvious when the author of this article uses words such as “barely” and “irony” etc… That you know this is purely opinion-biased. (Frankly, it’s bullshit).
Omg sooooo agreed! Defonetly xxx
Yeah, because advertising veganism is insanely profitable, eat more veggies that you can grow yourself or get anywhere.
Oh, I’m turning into a billionaire by just saying that!
As a scientist, I agree with this article.
Dr. Sean Mcarten here is the scientific proof that you should not consume milk or any other dairy products. This is a fact based website, no opinions. https://nutritionfacts.org/video/is-milk-good-for-our-bones/
How on earth does this article promote veganism when she says unsweetened yogurt is beneficial? Did you read the full article? “…I’d like to clarify that unsweetened fermented or cultured dairy products such as yogurt, kefir, and sour cream are acid neutral. Yogurt in particular is chock-full of beneficial qualities…”
I would be very grateful if anyone could spare a moment to sign and share this new petition to get the UK Parliament to address the issues with processed meat products
Thank you ? x
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/202048
Would love sign, but I’m from the US
Im just wondering what we should give toddlers to drink? If milk isnt good then what should we give them??
Well think about it, why would you need to give them anything else to drink instead of water? Why would we evolve to need to drink a liquid other than water? Definitely do some vegan research. And if you wanna give your kid some type of milk then try Soy, Almond, Rice, or Coconut milk. Here in the EU they are usually even more fortified with vitamins and calcium. But you can make your own Almond milk easily.
Well thats one hour of my life I’ll never get back but like seriously. Good on ya all for being so dedicated about this shit ive seen a lot of interesting points brought up and a lot of fkn bullshit too
All i have to add is I got told i was lactose intolerant and as a kid drunk Uht milk, but now im able to have normal dairy. I get no side effects whatsover and i even was born with dermatitis and consuming dairy does not make me brake out in rash nor have i ever suffered acne or a broken bone. I will say that I do enjoy Soy milk as well, especially the vanilla bliss one. And i have wondered about becoming a vegan for a month to see if it makes any difference to my health. but honestly I’m not giving up strawberry or chocolate milk or dunking my cookies in anything other than cows milk and i enjoy drinking it straight from the carton when no ones looking way too much
Your simply not old enough to suffer effects of dairy and meat yet. I love my milk and cheese and even steak. sever RA at 48, now im 50. vegan diet in 7 day got rid of inflammation . vegan for 3 month and can work gain. I cheat with cheese every now and then. All disease start in lymphatic system and comes from toxins of eating the wrong food for our species. Only animal on the planet that cooks its food. thousand of years of eating the Wrong stuff, we are doomed as knowing the truth and implementing are 2 different things. We are all to acidic and all illnesses comes from acidic environment. Not debatable. Dr treat symptoms not the root cause. Our food can cure everything, period
I absolutely agree. Watch the documentary “What the health” it will shock you! There is chocolate almond milk which is great. As far as the persons comment before and dunking cookies in cows milk I missed that for awhile but after you change your diet the cravings stop and I just don’t crave all that junk I used to and 80lbs lighter I don’t miss it either. I know a person who struggled with lupus for years and was always sick and miserable. She went vegan cold turkey and within 6 months has no more signs of lupus. She’s been vegan for a year and a half now no signs of the disease at all and lost weight and feels amazing. Food is our bodies life source so do the research it’s all there.
You are an idiot.
How about simply saying “I disagree”. Anger is not good for the bones, either.
That is articulate and most insightful.
Hi I just wanted to say that when you start talking about pasteurization I believe you are talking about sterilization because there is a difference. Sterilization seeks to kill all bacteria usually through the use of chemicals where as pasteurization is essentially heating the milk up to a point where it kills most of the harmful bacteria. Pasteurization actually started as a way to use a safer method to make food safer. However if you believe I am wrong you could point me to a source that says otherwise and I would be happy to take a look thanks.
also if you make another post chose the tone of your words differently it made me feel like i was being talked to like a 2 year old and people might respond negatively to that
Shut the fuck up. You’re what’s wrong with society. You entitled piece of shit. Maybe you should watch your tone. Don’t talk to people like they’re your slaves.
I drink over a gallon of whole milk a day for the last 12 years and have never had a problem. No broken bones no acne, no digestive problems. One of my favorite combos is natural whole dried squid with chocolate milk. Mmmm so good. With that said you sir need to promptly go to your doctor and ask him to remove that broken broom handle out of your ass.
people just read ”The China Study” all your questions will be answered. Please, do not read Webmd.
Ironic I’m writing a research paper as we speak with the China study as my source along with this article and I coincidentally saw your comment and had to reply
What a bunch of BS.
If you are saying this article is a bunch of BS, well you should read the book i suggested. Then you will change that opinion.
It’s bs because not everyone reacts the same to milk. This article is like saying “well one beer always gets me drunk so everyone should be limited to one beer. It’s unhealthy for me to drink more than one beer so if you drink more you’re going to develop all kinds of health issues.”
Well, If you have ANY WHATSOEVER JUSTIFICATION for this article to be “BS” then please, do tell us. Otherwise, I do suggest you channel your childish angst into somewhere else, where perhaps others, not unlike you, may take your comment as if it came from someone with at least some intellect.
It’s simple really. Calcium depletes magnesium and it’s magnesium that is needed by the body to strengthen bones not to mention calcium causes calcification build up and hardening of the arteries while depleting the most important mineral needed ~ Magnesium. Magnesium softens it, Calcium hardens it. Excessive milk drinking and/or calcium supplement taking causes eventual osteoporosis and hardening of the arteries (and other soft tissue).
Oh Tracy dear, who said you could go on your computer without my permission? I was sure your mother blocked everything except Club Penguin. Also, mommy says to come down and drink your milk so you can grow big and strong!
Lmfao fucboi you’re. Super as dumb
Oh Lord, please help this man’s grammar.
you will never feel real joy and happiness and love in love behaving the way you are. very sad
Fuccboi Condescending much? Actually do research instead of spouting off. If you don’t believe no big deal it’s your body your life but you don’t have to be an @$$
so are you saying that drinking milk is related to kidney stones
I have had increasing pain over the years,I am now 64yrs.I walk my dogs every day,sometimes I’m ok,mostly aching or limping up hills holding my hip.At home ,coming downstairs gave me stinging knee pains and I had to take one step down at a time.
Then,I stopped dairy,except for small amounts of chocolate!
Within a week,the pains had GONE and they have not come back 3 months later.
Fingers crossed,this is the answer and I won’t have to have a hip replacement or any keyhole surgery on my knee 🙂
My days of underestimating you are certainly coming to a middle. You win this time, bub.
Oh! Have you tried drinking milk? I heard that stuff makes your bones grow or something.
*Also, hope your surgery goes well 🙂
you are very sad
Carrollan great for you on making the choice to stop dairy. Don’t pay attention to people who post condescending stuff! Obviously he has issues and nothing better to do in life. Keep up the good work. There are a lot of documentaries out there I watched “What the health” on Netflix and it was eye opening. God Bless you and your journey for health!
I was diagnosed with c diff, a bacterial infection of the colon brought on by taking clindamycin for an infected tooth. I was put on vancomycin and told not to have dairy. I enjoyed milk, ice cream, and cheese, but gave it up during treatment. At that same time, I was sneezing and had a lot of mucous drainage – thought I just needed to dust the house. I stopped drinking milk and all of the allergic symptoms cleared up without dusting. I was amazed – a huge side benefit. As it turns out I must be allergic to casein, a protein in milk, and I didn’t know it. I would have never put those two things together. I immediately gave up drinking milk but didn’t give up butter and half and half. I’m now ready to take that step. Some of us will live with a low level of inflammation to eat the things we love.
It also turned out that I was sensitive to gluten – wound up with Hashimoto’s thyroiditis. Gluten and casein are proteins that some people have trouble breaking down. Can cause autoimmune problems. After giving up gluten and healing SIBO and leaky gut, the antibodies that were attacking my thyroid went down to 44 from 533.
I just want to be healthy. Honor your body. Listen to it. I can try to force it to do the things I want it to do (eat ice cream and cake) but I don’t think that’s going to work very well. Be blessed.
The studies you reference both says that they don’t prove anything. The reason that people believe this is because they’re to lazy to read the sources. Oh and they’re both from the 90s
The studies you reference both says that they don’t prove anything. The reason that people believe this is because they’re to lazy to read the sources. Oh and they’re both from the 90s.
I’ve just read the summaries of both trials and the following applies:
Study 1 says that calcium intake in your 20’s is linked to an increased risk of osteoporosis.
Study 2 says that in selected cohort studies there was no increase in risk of fractures from taking 300mg calcium per day, but also no decrease. In randomised trials it showed an increase in risk of fractures from taking 300mg calcium per day.
I’m not specifically trained to analyse statistics, but those results seem pretty clear to me. Am I missing something?
For god’s sake Sheana, I’m a doctor! I don’t read!
What these studies are not considering is the other lifestyle and genetic factors for osteoporosis and fractures That exist. There are so many things that affect overall bone health, and if any other risk factors are prevalent in the societies where dairy consumption is high, that tell me that the link may be coincidental. What I look for in a study (which is noticeably absent here) is a plausible mechanism, the “how” dairy products weaken your bones part.
The “how” doesn’t exist in the acidity claim either, as far as I can tell from researching scientific sources. Numerous studies show that Acidic residue in diets doesn’t affect the overall calcium status of the body. If your body experiences calcium loss, it simply extracts more calcium from your food to compensate, and the excess gets flushed out in the urine. There is an incorrect assumption that if there is increased calcium in the urine, it comes from your bones. This simply isn’t true, it turns out, as calcium management is largely handled by the digestive system and kidneys.
Further dairy isn’t an acid forming food at all. According the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, when metabolized, dairy leaves an alkaline residue, not an acidic one.
Lastly, (and I stumbled on this article with good intentions, but immediately did my research as I would expect any educated person to do) where it live, in Canada, it is completely illegal to use any bovine growth hormones in milk, so all you Americans that live near the border, come on over and get your hormone free milk from us. And to someone else’s point, yes, some people have a milk allergy, which can affect ENT issues like ear infections., in which case, it is advisable for that individual to find another source of such nutrients, however those are individual cases, not mainstream advice. I’m just not seeing the data to back up the claims here?
People, please just read ”The China Study” and all your questions will be answered. Not webmd.
shut up you commie
I have no idea what your argument is, and I don’t feel like rereading it.
But according to my professional expertise and WebMD, I am diagnosing you with a naughty case of malaria.
If in doubt read the science! https://theconversation.com/do-humans-need-dairy-heres-the-science-70434
To end the debate, Drink mama’s milk instead!!!
my grandfather is over a century in age. he has been using milk all his life. he is the one who can advise me better, he is a living example I can trust. if you can shoe me a vegan who is over 100 years then its fine.
What about coconut milk instead? Also, I make kefir. Doesn’t that
require using cow’s milk?
This whole comment section is cancer. Literally every antidairy person uses the same damn argument and then ends off with a rude remark to those who challenge them. Wanna know who else attacked those who challenged them? Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Kim Jong Un. Just to name a few. I don’t give a damn whether you drink milk or not. Learn how to argue properly and in a civil manner, and maybe, just maybe, your argument will at least be considered.
well said!! I completely agree
I’d give you bitcoins for how cool you are if I had any.
“Literally every”
Before claiming to be the smartest person in the comments, check your blanket statements ?
Generally speaking, blanket statements such as these make an argument invalid; it isn’t precise, and it is also your opinion. Check yo self ya rascal. I’m sure you’ll find someone smarter without having to look far, since you seem to be looking for intelligent conversation (which generally is found through open mindedness, not shutting others down). Since I looked at your other comments to the above people, it seems that you are the one bringing negativity and rudeness to the conversation, not them. But, there is often someone to do it, as humans people learn to deal. 🙂
I was so interested in the article and almost believed it despite the poor writing and biased un-sourced information. But after reading the comments i realized it is just a vegetarian thingy. I mean c’mon read the comments and look at these vegetarians can’t have a normal conversation without being super defensive. Honestly i don’t give a f*** if you’re vegetarian or not, just share more credible information to prove your points but it seems this bad rep for vegetarians gonna stick for a bit longer…
I always take a look at who is supporting the organisation writing the articles. Is it coincidence that almost all the time “Pro dairy” articles link with either government, animal agriculture or pharmacs? conversely, the “anti dairy” aren’t funded by anyone…..
I never believe what I read on face value but all the dairy industry has to do is maintain an element of doubt which it does very well.
I am not a vegan, but I believe the case for stopping drinking milk is best made by looking at the disasterous impact the animal agriculture business is having on the planet – that affects us all whether you are a milk drinker or not.
check out ‘cowspiracy’ on netflix.
This is a load O ?. “Milk increases pH in bones.” Ridiculous.
Wake up and stop being a sheep and following everyone else . Milk is for baby calf’s ,humans don’t need it and if we do why do t we use off our own breed? How messed up is that .mik is baby’s and not good for you at lol ltook me 29 years so find out and I feel so annoyed to be lied to this whole time .
i know right its so messed plus it causes so much harm to cows so
veganism is the only way
Wake up! and stop following them. Follow us so our agenda can be pushed. I laughed when I actually read the studies and their flaws.
I know right the studies are absolute trash ad even says themselves that they don’t prove it
You’re my favorite son (or daughter). I guess I should’ve checked your gender when you were born. I knew your mother should’ve given you a more apparent name, like Sarah or Jeff.
You know everyone tolerates you, right?
How dare you bring your mother into this!? She is an independent sheep who needs no shepherd!
I should’ve known from the start. You’ll never be the man your mother is >:(
I have heard about this before from many articles and documentaries, but is there any scientific proof? Are there any peer previewed articles or physical research that proves any of this? Would really like to find the research so I can prove to people that we’ve been lied to our whole lives.
Did you read the article? The author cites the study of tens of thousands of people used in the experiment. Also the author shared the references she used for the information at the bottom of the article.
Oh Watson my dear, did you not read the fine print? Here, grab a magnifying glass and look under the specific phrase “Milk is bad” in those studies. If you focus the glass over it steadily enough, you will be able to read “lol more milk for me, suckers”. The author clearly wants the milk for themselves! We have been duped!
Also, there’s another study I read for about 30 seconds that used a bajillion squillion kajillion umptillion people in their experiment, and the conclusion they drew was “Milk is aight”. I’m too lazy to cite it, so you can find it, I dunno, probably somewhere.
Dr. Daddy Fuccboi , you just made my day.
Lol
Dear vivian
What about good quality raw (goat) milk? There are stories of people who saved their bones with it…and yoghurt?
Even the Bible suggest goat milk which of course then was always raw.
This comment section is actually hilarious. You fucking americans actually argue whether or not something is healthy based on the fucking bible? That isn’t “God’s word” and people had less than a clue of how the body worked 2000 years ago.
“Every day without our daily milk, we stray further from God’s Light”
– John 3:51 or something like that
I ate a Bible once. It was rather delicious! It’s always nice to dip it in choccy milk for maximum flavor out of every bite.
Does yogurt have to be organic and what about Goats milk…
Goats milk is still another species milk. There are many plant based milks and yogurts out there that are equally if not more delicious
Really just ignore that the milk is from another species. The main problem with that is that it contains more protein than for example the milk from humans, but you need the same amount of protein anyway, and the body easily copes with the relatively low amount of calcium it withdraws from the bones.
Stop talking sense. We have an agenda.
Plants? B-b-but senpai, humans aren’t plants? Isn’t the whole point of this article to drink only mommy’s milk?
Also, if you were any less intelligent, I’d have to water you twice a day.
Thank you again for all your sometimes surprising information. I’ve learned more from you than all my DR’s. I’ve ordered your book, rather than download it. I like books better. I knew that milk created an acid, I didn’t realize how much! Since I’m really too thin, 110lbs. Which is more than I’ve weighed in 4 years, all I hear is more ice cream, And the note on calcium going where it’s supposed to was right on the button. I have it in my arteries and bone spurs in my mouth. But not my bones! Looking forward to the delivery of your book.
You are the human equivalent of a participation award.
Hi all, I’m a food technologist/scientist (graduated from massey) and have been working in the dairy field all my life. Scrolling down to read the comments section, I’m surprised how so many of you actually think this article is credible. Calcium depletion due to a drop in pH? I haven’t heard of such nonsense in my life. Milk is the most wholesome food for you and that’s why they say breast milk is best. Cows milk is not breast milk but is very close. Rich in nutrients vitamins minerals. For every study you show me claiming milk is bad for your bones(are these even credible?), I can show you 10 that supports the notion that milk is good for your bones. Flick me an email if you want to know more. Haha I’m ashamed I even took my time to argue with this article. I even double checked to see whether this was a satire piece/website. I just don’t understabd how so many of u think it’s credible.
Please show me the other 10 studies! Also it’s your job to make us believe that milk is good for us. Otherwise you wouldn’t have a job and they pay well don’t they to keep the secret safe.
Hello ignorant person John ford, but no, nobody pays GF for saying that milk is good, and he/she doesn’t earn off of the industry. A scientist conducts objective research, and the result has no impact on his/her income. I bet you also believe that the moon-landing was fake and that vaccines cause autism. “Keep the secret safe” – Those are some major conspiracy theorist notions you got there.
couldn’t say it better myself!!
Great. Now, poor John Ford has to go find a safe space.
ignorant. its already been proven that the pharmaceutical industry influenced the creation of new mental health disorders in order to make billions more dollars
humans, possibly including you are very intelligent and manipulative to get their own way
the huge dairy market/industry doesn’t want to go out of business so it is very plausible that bribes go to government/ research facilities to focus on outcomes they want the research to show. its easy to manipulate stats and confuse people that don’t have in depth knowledge on science
I’m gonna go into the toaster industry and write an article on how I, the regional toaster manager, am banning toasters internationally.
Have fun eating your flaccid bread, Harrold >:(
Is it true that many of the other developed countries quit drinking milk after being breast fed? Drinking milk is very American?
Yeah but that’s only because other countries don’t have cereal like Cocoa Puffs. Can confirm, I travel and stuff. Or at least I think I did. Maybe all that milk is going to my head…
Will you marry me? I’ll buy you a cow
Why are the milk drinkers getting so pissed off? Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. News flash jerk offs this wouldn’t be the first time we have been lied to about something being good for us. I have always hated milk and the thought of drinking it disgusts me. I started drinking almond milk years ago. I am super healthy and have great bone density. Milk sucks!
Maybe you should eat makeup so you can be pretty on the inside.
“Why are the milk drinkers getting so pissed off? Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. News flash jerk offs…”
Oh, sweet irony.
commies like you need to drink milk
What a load of bollocks. Irrelevant references, remarks that don’t bear up to recognized scientific fact, opinion based and not balanced. Based on an individual who has had a bone disorder and cannot accept recognized modern medical practice and knowledge. Don’t go spouting off such garbage when there is a flawed bias build on personal health issues.
Just watch “what the health” Netflix. If meat and dairy are good for you why wouldn’t anyone show the facts? All running away scared! Show me the science before commenting and saying this story is untrue. I’ve spent weeks looking into different facts and it’s very difficult to find any actual true scientific fact that milk is good for you. Happy to be proven wrong!
I swear to God Harrold, I’d fight your father if I weren’t so sure he left when he saw you >:(
I’d like to see sources.
You have absolutely no sources: Instead you have an advertisement.
‘Many studies show that…’ doesn’t prove anything. All this information may be perfectly accurate and well-interpreted but until you have sources for the readers to look at your article means nothing.
I want to have your baby. I know, I know this comment section is tearing us apart, but baby, please, I can change! I’ll drink more milk for you, I promise! Don’t leave me again!
Whoever wrote this article is probably a vegan cuck
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This thread is the perfect example of: research can always be framed to suit whatever an agenda is.
Milk is definitely not good for me and the many other people who are allergic to it as I am. Maybe it works for others. That’s the mystery of the human body.
I don’t drink milk, but apart from having eczema and sinuses I’m pretty healthy. And no – avoiding my allergens did not help my eczema and sinuses, as my doctors had hoped. Mystery of the human body. I’m hoping my overactive immune system means I won’t have cancer though.
So I guess – milk drinkers, drink milk if it doesn’t bother your conscience, non-milk drinkers – we keep the moral high ground and hope more people will realise the cruelty of dairy? We can’t all think the same. If we did we’d have no wars and we all know how that’s going/went.
Oh… I would just wish that I had your moral standards. Please enlightened one, savior of modern mans moral and defender of all that is good and true (the opposite of conspiracy, which is all around and owns the unenlightened ones)… Please suck out the low moral standards dwelling inside of me, through my penis!
Long Live Dr. Daddy Fuccboi and The Dr. Fuccboi
(Honorary Mentions: Einar & thiscommentsectionlmao)
My, aren’t we full of our selves. If you wonder why no one will listen to you, check your attitude, oh morally superior one.
I hope you actually got cancer because commies like you don’t support science as well as us. Also probably you smoked too much or inhaled too much asbestos or some shit,and you were probably lactose intolerant shit bag who didn’t realize he was and didn’t stop milk immediately
MY AUNTIE DRANK COWS MILK ALL HER LIFE, A LOT….SHE IS 60 NOW, WITH TERRIBLE OSTEOPOROSIS AND ASTHMA. THATS ALL I NEED TO KNOW
Right, but that can be caused by so many other things, I know so many people at the same age who drink still drink milk and have no health problems. Also it can’t possibly cause asthma, so there’s your proof that this has nothing to do with milk.
Oh, you! So silly~ <3
Every time our auntie was given a cup of milk, she slyly poured the milk into our fig tree. Remember that tree? It has strong bones and stuff!
The bullshit in this article is unbelievable. I am going to debunk your debunk step by step.
Your first claim is that because countries where more bone fractures happen have high milk consumption it means milk causes them. That is a correlation and your interpretation of it is bad. Have you ever considered that if people have a problem with bones they will do whatever they can to fix it? That maybe the milk is actually the effect and the fractures are the cause? Instead you should concentrate on measuring the bone density on milk consumers and non milk consumers instead of mindless correlations..https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4948942/#S6title here is an actual study that shows that milk consumption especially during prebubescent period incerases bone density in old age.
Then you claim milk is design for the calf but a cow will produce two types of milk: one with colostrum during the period it has a calf and one without colostrum. While drinking milk with colostrum is bad for you regular milk is ok. You also claim that milk is like coke and causes bone density to get lower while every measurement shows the opposite. You sir are a bold faced liar.
I guess you are from dairy industry. You didn’t give any example milk is good because there is no evidence. Rather than making stupid comments and confuse other people educate yourself because you know nothing you ignorant BOLD FACED LIAR
No no no. He is right, and you are wrong Caro. Colleges like Stanford and Cambridge have proven milk is a super food. You may not be able to find it on the internet, but you can definitely find these studies in their libraries. I’m sorry but this argument is done and “animal-savers” or “vegetarians” need to stop being ignorant. I have drunken milk for ages and can tell you I’ve never broken a bone, and any illnesses I’ve had were related to other causes.
Wrong again. Milk is a super bad for you food. Any studies that exist stating that cow’s milk is good for humans is a study that is tailor made for the dairy industry purely for the benefit of that industry to increase profits.
Think about this: Health and pharmaceutical industries profit from human illness by treating ‘conditions’; not preventing the illnesses. Dairy industry leads to human illness. Promoting dairy equals incredible profits for industries that want you, the reader sick. Yes, there will be literature that say dairy is good for humans. Dear reader, don’t be stupid…
Then I suggest grow your own crops, make your own food so that you know that you will be healthy all your life. Anything you buy from grocery stores can risk the chances of you getting cancer.
Wrong again. Milk is a super good for you food. Any studies that exist stating that cow’s milk is bad for humans is a study that is tailor made for the vegan group industry, purely for the benefit of that industry to increase profits.
Think about this: Health and pharmaceutical industries profit from human illness by treating ‘conditions’; not preventing the illnesses. Dairy industry doesn’t lead to human illness. Promoting veganism equals incredible profits for industries that want you, the reader sick. Yes, there will be literature that say veganism is good for humans. Dear reader, don’t be stupid…LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
have a look at the revenue generated by “big dairy”. It pails in comparison to “big pharma” or the other “bigs” out there. 1000 farmers with 500 head of dairy cattle each is not equating 10’s of billions of dollars. i can digest cows milk just fine. I know that without watching my calories in and calories out i will get fat and sick. I know that working hard everyday strengthens my skeleton and milk adds the minerals i need to grow the strength i make. but facts need not apply in this article
Damn it, Jim! They’re getting smarter! Stop spitting in their food, you fool! It’s all over…the pharmaceutical industry is done for.
No, I refuse! We can still change this Jim! I’ve got a solution! We just have to start spitting in…in…whatever vegans eat or something.
Thanks for your edumacated input and for have “drunken” so much milk…. however, the proteins in dairy break down into acids and leach onto the bones, thus making them brittle. You need to watch “What the Health” on Netflix for a simplified version of what’s going on between the government institutions and corporations to make us believe things are healthy for us. Many diseases and symptoms can manifest through the things we eat. That’s their plan, it directs us towards the pharmaceutical industry, thus creating a full circle investment for all involved. They are sick and twisted.
Damn it, she found out that we spit in their food! Darn, how are we going to make that sweet, sweet pharmaceutical money now?!
sorry but i just watched that communist propaganda and spit on it like your mother , also milk is actually good and proven to be also our bodys digestive system works wonders to prevent our bones from being damaged from those acids and milk helps us grow.
You try so hard to hide it, don’t you? And you think nobody notices. But you know what? We all know. Everybody knows.
Also, I think your pants are on fire.
Fact: The only two reasons bones ever, EVER become stronger is 1) bones are equal to the strength of the muscle attached to them therefore, to make your bones stronger you must first make your muscles stronger, period. 2) bone fractures or breaks will be stronger after the bone heals.
In reality, this article is absolutely correct. Anyone saying otherwise is deceiving the reader.
One last thought: over consumption of calcium leads to arthritis.
I’m a doctor, and I disagree. I always eat a lump of Calcium for breakfast every day along with eagle eggs dipped in choccy milk. I bet I could beat up your dad with my strong bones.
I used to think that a bone was stronger after you broke it and it healed. However, years ago, after breaking my hand, I asked my doctor about that. He said the bone will actually be weaker at the point of the break.
“Then you claim milk is designed for the calf” do you actually think a cows milk is “designed” for humans? Don’t make me wee.
Ew, close the door when you wee
It’s true. I finally got rid of all those sinus and ear infections by stopping milk consumption. I was worried about my bones, but I found that my bone density had actually INCREASED since I gave up drinking that swill. And I’m a small-boned, sedentary, post-menopausal woman. Drinking milk saved my bones and my health. You can argue all you want but my experience tells me this article is absolutely correct.
how do you know your bone density increased? and congratulations.
Is there no beginning to your talents? I wish I could increase my bone density and notice when it does! Though it would make it harder to fly. By the way, I’m a doctor and a bird.
please keep your mean words out of my comment section please and thank you
milk gay lol;3
Uhhhh, you contradicted yourself. First, you claim your bone density increased after giving up milk, then you say, “Drinking milk saved my bones and my health. “
Watch this documentary on Netflix “What the Health”
It’s eye opening documentary.
Agreed.
For the diligent, take notes on the presentation and reference everything you question. For even the most dimly lit individual, you will learn the truth of said documentary “What the Health”. Additionally, there are many other food documentaries that will show you how you’ve been lied to or misled about nutrition.
I haven’t gone full plant based diet yet since I live with and take care of my elderly parents (who are meat and potatoes type folk), but that’s my goal. I have ehlers danlos syndrome which causes immense pain…. I’ve gotten rid of what foods I can. But sugars and starches are not bad. I laugh at people who are on the Atkins diet! Don’t they realize that those simple sugars will be the first to burn, or are they not exercising?
the atkins diet is stupedist of them all i mean its impossible for carbs to make you fat
Here is an eye opening blog about “What The Health”!
https://sofhealthandwellness.com/what-the-health/
A myth!!
Sorry but you say milk changes the bodies PH level but this is a myth…the duodenum wont let anything inside until it reaches a certain PH level.
Milk can’t change your bodies PH just like anything else can’t.
ARE YOU CRAZY??? FOOD CHANGES YOUR PH , YOU ARE WHAT YOU EAT
Danny boy, you must have misinterpreted what you read. The author didn’t say milk changes the body’s Ph. In fact the author is absolutely correct in their explanation of how calcium is depleted by the body self regulating.
I began having psoriasis like outbreaks on my scalp several years ago. What was recommended to me was a harsh and strong steroid solution and dandruff shampoo, which helped but never cured.
I then went on a 2 month trip to Bali where dairy is not part of the regular diet. Miraculously, my condition improved greatly, however I didn’t realize it was the lack of dairy that had caused the cure until I returned to the US and started consuming yogurt, and other milk products. My condition came back with a vengence, and consuming dairy was the cause. I realized that dairy must be causing a lot of inflammation in my body for it to manifest the way it did. No more dairy for me…
I’ve heard that goat and sheep cheese and yoghurt are ‘better’ than cows’ dairy – certainly as a kefir. Are they still very acid to the body?
I’ve been drinking milk all my life, ( a quart or MORE a day). I always thought I should have STRONG bones with all of the milk I drink, but about 5yrs ago I found that I have the start of osteoporosis in my hips and thighs 🙁 I said to my Dr, how can that be, I drink lots of milk every day ! She said milk doesn’t help ! I never asked why and she never explained why. If this is true, I am so disappointed because I love my milk (ice cold)
can I ask where did you get the milk from? What they sell in supermarket is not milk, is water with milk flavor. The conservation processes destroy any potential benefit of milk.
Ok, and if not from milk (or any dairy), where ARE we supposed to get calcium from?
Sesame seeds both black and white, make sesame mylk use it in cereals drinking etc green leafy veg broccoli is a great source soy (non gmo)
Do your research you will find plenty of sources of calcium
Green vegetables. That’s where cows get calcium from when they graze. Nuts and seeds. Or you can KEEP the calcium in your bones by avoiding milk. It worked for me.
Hemp milk is supposed to be a great alternative as well. I’ve been drinking it for a couple of weeks now and love it. It also has more b12 and riboflavin and several other things that are not found in the almond or coconut milks. I’m not a doctor or professional but I feel it is a healthy alternative to regular dairy milk. And it tastes great. The organic natural vanilla flavor is my favorite.
I also like to make my chia pudding with the vanilla hemp milk and the “Triple Omega Seed Mix” from NOW Foods that a flax/hemp/chia seed mixture all in one. Then I add in some cinnamon and too with blueberries or bananas or both. Even my 1 year old loves it. Mainly for the bananas. But still! Ha
I Googled it for you quick, George. The quick answer is:
Collards. By far one of the best sources of calcium is collard greens, which contain 268 milligrams in one cup of cooked greens. …
Figs. …
Almonds. …
Fortified Plant-Based Milks. …
Broccoli. …
Butternut Squash. …
Kale. …
Chia Seeds. …
And the list goes on and on!
sorry but i just watched that communist propaganda and spit on it like your mother , also milk is actually good and proven to be also our bodys digestive system works wonders to prevent our bones from being damaged from those acids and milk helps us grow. also that these have way less than actual milk.
Horrible article. I cant believe you are spreading this misinformation. Milk is fine. Humans have the analytical thinking skills over other animals to have realized it’s a great source for nutrients we can absorb in our body to stay healthy. That is why we drink it. Others who are lactose intolerant or grow to become lactose intolerant have that issue due to genetic traits that are predetermined at birth.
Heres a journal that summarizes the truth and is published on the national center for biotechs website. Don’t consider this link to be your only source of valid information and perhaps push you brain to consider doing more research in a vast library of infinite information and misinformation called the internet. It’s easy for the average joe to find one bullshit article as the first link in the google search engine and think it must be the truth.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22081694
Also, fuck you people continuing to spread this bullshit because now my mom is like one of you PRO-non GMO, all ORGANIC goobers that waste money on marketing tactics at wholefoods.
milk makes you fat,milk causes break outs and milk shouldn’t even be consumed in the first place. it’s for baby cows not fucking humans.
ignorance is bliss I guess
Nice to know you have all the answers Johnny! And expressed in such an articulate fashion too. I’m sure your mom (foolish woman – trying to be healthy and daring to question the whole food industry marketing machine) must be proud.
milk makes you fat? i’ve been drinking milk every single breakfast since i’m 4 and i’m skinny, healthy and high calcium, explain that
Why are you so upset? People have a right to their own opinion. Almond milk is the same price as milk sometimes cheaper when on sale. I loved milk, but when I started hearing the possible negative effects and who was behind the marketing of how great milk is for us, I gave it a break and honestly feel better after I stopped consuming it. I used to have knee issues and joint pain elsewhere, cleared right up after I stopped dairy. Don’t need to go solely off an article, do your own test and judge from that.
Totally agree, it’s these leftist enviro dorks who belong to or support PETA.
They don’t want us eating meat from any animal, nor consuming their milk.
This article is specifically picking on milk, it’s not the milk nor the calcium that is problematic it’s the high Phosphorus in foods that is causing the problem.
The top ten high phosphorus foods (Acidic) are
Meat
Dairy
Grains, especially whole grains.
Legumes
Eggs
Nuts
Vegetable oils
Alcohol
Coffee
Refined sugar.
The best way to neutralize the negatives effects of acidic foods is to simply eat plenty of alkaline foods such as
Swiss chard
Spinach, Kale.
Almonds
Avacado
Cucumber
Beets
Figs, and apricots.
So go ahead enjoy a few glasses of cold highly nutritious milk per day, but simply try to remember to neutralize the high phosphorus in milk by eating a handful of Almonds or another highly alkaline food.
The way this article was written promotes more of a political ideology rather than trying to inform people that it’s not the milk, it’s the phosphorus dummy.
that is why i started drinking Alkaline water. It has help me tremendously.
I guess drinking milk also makes you very angry. 😉
Johnny boy, sorry to tell you this but, your mom will probably outlive you.
Here’s a tit for you to suck on: If the website you’re at ends in dot gov, don’t trust it; question all of it! Not that the government always lies but, consider this: Government promotes anything the lines their own pockets. Seriously dude, you sound kind of bright. Perhaps you should exercise your ability to find more objective information instead of referring readers to the government? Ha ha ha haaaaa.
Pubmed is part of the US National Library. The articles are not published by the US.government. The research quoted is written by an associate professor at the University of Calgary. This research is further reviewed by Geneva University Hospitals and Faculty of Medicine, https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23551968
Ha ha ha haaaaa.Ha ha ha haaaaa.Ha ha ha haaaaa.
Why does the body not use the calcium in the milk to neutralise the acid
because it is not yet assimilated. Body needs to neutralize the acid with something that he has in his arsenal already
I understand that I may not know what I’m talking about. But if calcium is used to neutralize the acid. Then honestly, why does the calcium not neutralize the acid upon production? Just a question. I’m curious. What promts your body to say, “Hey, get this acid out of here.” ? If the calcium is present in the milk then the acid would be neutralized immediately among production correct?
Get some evidence that’s not 20 years old. Like this study from 2014 that found individuals who were allergic to milk had significantly less bone mineral density and were at risk for early osteoporosis, but individuals who had completed a desensitization program, meaning that they were once allergic but worked up a tolerance to dairy, had bone density more similar to the control groups who consumed dairy. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25091435