An 800 pound gorilla recommends investments; talking babies discuss online stock trading; a gecko works for a car insurance company; a duck wants you to buy disability coverage… What will they think of next?
How about a “retired” flying nun, Sally Field, touting the benefits of Boniva (ibandronate), the first once-a-month bisphosphonate? Take a look at one of the ads for Boniva below:
Partial Transcript
“I always thought that calcium, vitamin D, and exercise would be enough to keep my bones healthy. Boniva works with your body to help stop and reverse bone loss… I was able to stop and reverse my bone loss, and studies show that after one year on Boniva, nine out of 10 women did too. I’ve got this one body and this one life, so I wanted to stop my bone loss. Ask your doctor if Boniva is right for you.”
So I decided to create my own ad for Boniva… but with a big twist
You see, my Boniva ad actually tells the truth. So now, without further ado, here is my new and accurate Boniva advertisement starring Sally Field:
Sally Field is sitting on her patio couch wearing white jogging pants and a blue t-shirt, her legs curled up on the seat. On top of a small coffee table in front of her, there is a thick and dried-up tree branch and a thin twig. As Enya’s inspiring “Only If” plays softly in the background, she says:
“I always thought that osteoporosis was a disease, and when I was diagnosed with it, my doctor told me that ONLY once-a-month Boniva could reverse my bone loss. At first I believed my doctor, but soon after – fortunately before filling my prescription – I discovered that he was wrong. I read on the internet that osteoporosis is not a disease and that there is a natural and drug-free way to reverse it. I was surprised to learn that Boniva can actually do more harm than good…”
Now there is silence, except for the music crescendo, as Enya sings “If you really want to, you can hear me say; only if you want to will you find a way.” Sally sits up straight and crosses her legs. The music volume is lowered and Sally goes on:
“Taking Boniva makes your bones more prone to fracture, and here’s why this happens. Exactly like its main competitors, Fosamax, Actonel, and Reclast, Boniva works against natural bone metabolism.
You see, Boniva binds to the bone matrix and stops normal bone resorption by inhibiting bone cells known as osteoclasts. Bone resorption is a necessary process to have strong and healthy bones because osteoclasts remove old bone to make space for new healthy, and more resilient bone tissue to be deposited in its place.
As a result of taking Boniva, new bone formation is greatly depressed, and your bones become old and dried-up with long-term accumulation.”
Sally picks up the thick branch and holds it in front of her with outstretched arms
“If you really want to you can seize the day”, Enya sings… Sally smiles and cracks the branch in half and holds the broken pieces in her hands:
“Take a look at this old and dried-up branch and notice how easily I split it in half. That’s exactly what happens to your bones: because Boniva stops your bones from renewing themselves naturally, they look thicker but become brittle.
This detrimental process takes a couple of years, and that’s why scientific studies showing density improvement when taking Boniva focus mainly on short-term results. Even though bone volume does not increase, bone is more densely packed and looks denser. But this stops after a while.
Like you, I want to reverse osteoporosis, but I don’t want to get fooled by a synthetic drug that offers short-sighted help. And what’s more, unlike my doctor, I believe that bone quality is more important than quantity. After all, my goal is to prevent fractures…”
Sally places the broken branch on the table and takes the thin twig in her hands. She tries to crack it, but it is flexible and instead of breaking, it gracefully bends. She continues:
“Now watch how this thinner but young and healthy twig resists breakage. Of course, you want your bones to be like it. So next time your doctor recommends Boniva, feel free to ignore him like I did, and opt for a natural and drug-free way to strengthen your bones.”
The music stops.
Sally gets up and walks away
The screen becomes black and a large Poison warning sign appears with a disclosure that reads:
“Even though this drug has been approved by the appropriate government agency to treat, cure, and prevent osteoporosis, you are basically on your own. Neither the agency nor healthcare practitioners, the latter with very few exceptions, care if you will suffer side effects when taking Boniva. After all, it’s a numbers game.
Moreover, the agencies involved can ignore new research showing detrimental effects of this drug, and even if those are confirmed, may simply issue a warning. Also, you must remember that the makers of Boniva have a lot more money than you, by the billions, and can therefore successfully fight any lawsuit by hiring the best lawyers.”
This remains visible on the screen while a woman’s voice is heard saying:
“If you are looking for a short-term osteoporosis ‘quick-fix’ and still want to take a chance with Boniva, please note that you are risking the following side effects, many of which may be irreversible: nausea, abdominal pain, flatulence, diarrhea, severe constipation, inflammation and ulceration of the esophagus, chest pain, heartburn, difficulty swallowing, skin rash, eye problems including vision loss and blurred vision, generalized pain of the muscles, joints, and/or bones, decreased mobility of joints, blood clotting disorders, anemia, dental problems, numbness, tight muscles in the face, seizures, irritability and unusual thoughts and behaviors, altered taste, atrial fibrillation, jaw pain, osteonecrosis of the jaw.
Additionally, as is the case with all bisphosphonate drugs, Boniva interferes with Coenzyme Q10 (ubiquinone) production, an essential antioxidant that performs many important functions in the body. To find out more about how Boniva can ruin your life, please call the toll-free information line at 1-800-4NO-LIES.”
The screen fades to black.
Now that would be truthful advertising. As always, let me know what you think by leaving a comment below.
For the last two years both my Dr. And gynecologist in the U.S prescribed me Boniva and insisted for me to take it which I didn’t when I saw all the side effects! I’m French and when I went to France I went to see the Dr. with my bone density resistis. She told me to walk, weighbearing excercices, to take Vitamins D and calcium! My friend pharmacist told me that in France, the healthcare system ( who is covering 80% of the cost of many drugs) do not cover it anymore, this drug as there are too many issues and unproven results regarding the prevention of fractures of the neck femur!
Unfortunately the FDA here doesn’t care, the drugs industry is too powerful, insurances are not paying for drug expenses and the Government doesn’t care! Soon we’ll have lawyers advertising for lawsuits and a pendemic of people with jaw bones necrosis and broken bones!
Stay naturel! I just added more walk, see the sun, take your vitamins, eat food with calcium and I added a bone colegenizer that helps the supplements to be more efficient!
Good luck
I did take Boniva. What a gross mistake. Not only did this drug worsen my back issues, it also caused my Barrett’s esophagus, with violent stomach aches.
Consider yourself lucky for not taking this drug.
I have taken Bonviva since 2008 and asked Dr recently about what if I needed tooth extraction and was put off bonviva ..so next step im being sent to Rhuemotoligst ..What do u think of this.
At 65, and with a -3.0 T-score in my femoral neck, all 3 docs I’ve seen in the last year are unanimous in recommending medication. I have been following your protocol for probably 4 years and my scores are still worsening. I suspect that 40 years of treated thyroid dysfunction is at the root.
I really want to believe what you are saying, Vivian, so I can have some hope.
And, while I’m commenting, may I share my biggest frustration. Your sensational writing style. If you would just give the facts in a straight-forward manner, with your references, I would be more likely to not suspect that you, like those you decry, are skewing things to your advantage. I don’t doubt your mission to help those with bone metabolism issues, but I do object to your strategies. They make me distrust you.
I was given Boniva more than 2 years but was scared to take it. I was going to take the first one this morning but found this site. I have been taking d for a year with my antacid calcium carbonate, and I want to know if this form of calcium is effective? I take quite a bit every day for acid reflux.
I am 59 year old. I run 5 miles every day with a long 10mile run on Saturday. I also walk 4 miles with my hubby rain ☔️ r shine every day for the past 8 years. I had a bone density test 2 years ago which showed I had severe osteoporosis. I was shocked. Yes my 88 year old mother has it but not as bad as I do. She never took anything. I started off on Fosomax, the side effects were aweful. Stupid me was convinced to do the Prolia injection. Debilitating . I couldn’t get out of bed. Ok, so we try Boniva. So for the 2 weeks after taking it every bone in my body aches to the point I want to sit around and just cry.
The following two weeks are ok but my back pain is aweful. I quit running, which was depressing after 30 years of enjoyment. I do Pilates, yoga, barr classes trying to strengthen my core. I live in pain. I just had a bone density after being on Boniva for a year… well my glass is half empty or half full. My orthopedic said there is no improvement, but it’s not worse! I just want to scream. I’m 59 years old, I weigh 128 lbs….I eat healthy but feel very old.
I have 2 beautiful grand girls 4&6 I like t be active with them, not restrained b osteoporosis/ Boniva.
I jus read an article today about the herb Termeric. I am going to give it a try. What do I have to loose. I am sick of pill and side effects. HELP!!!!
THANK YOU for the information. I was told I was to begin taking Fosomax. My ‘gut’ told me to wait on this,and My daughter found your site. What shall I do now? I’m on Thyroid meds,which were increased one year ago. My bone density was good before the increase of thyroid meds. Now 15 months later my bone density is decreasing. I now have ostopenia. What to do?
Thank you,
Ruth.
At 69 yrs. of age, slim with a very small build, I was told by my doctor that my bones are no good at all, osteopenia, and I should get 2 Prolia injections a year from now on.
Not a believer in drugs(or pharmaceutical companies) at all, I checked out online about Prolia and some of the other drugs our dear doctors are so anxiously prescribing: by Jove, I’d rather have osteoporosis than any and all of the side-effects that come with these horrible drugs.
Thanks, but no thanks, I have to find a better way. Just fractured my right foot, fractured my left foot 7 months ago, am a vegetarian, but I shall refrain from doctor-prescribed drugs as I simply do not trust either one of them!
I am 60 yrs old and was diagnosed with osteoporosis several months ago. I am slim and active. It was disconcerting to find out my bone density had declined fairly significantly since my osteopenia diagnosis 3 yrs ago. My PCP told me to take fosamax. I hesitated and decided to get several other opinions. I met with an ob/gyn who is locally known to specialize in osteoporosis. She gave me several articles and studies supporting the efficacy of bisphosphonates. I still was reluctant and sought out more information. I met with a Stanford endocrinologist. She too made the case for these drugs. Three docs, 3 of the same opinions. So I filled the prescription. The first week I took the pill was uneventful. The second time I took it i experienced very unpleasant gastro-intestinal symptoms that lasted about 3-4 days. I told the endocrinologist about the stomach issues. (She encouraged me to try it again, and said if need be we could switch to an injection that would bypass my stomach.) I took the third pill and within an hour I had pain in my toes, pain in my right wrist and knuckles, and pain in my groin/hip joint. Later in the day my neck became sore and I developed cold symptoms that worsened. The next day the “cold” was worse combined with general achiness. I reported this to the doc. I am done with this drug. I regret taking it even for 3 weeks. The doctor suggested I go off it for 3-4 weeks and then come in to see her. I will do that, but my hunch is she will just try to sell me on another drug. I am unwilling to subject myself to these side effects and will do everything possible to modify my exercise regime and eat even better. I’m already gluten free, take Vit D, Calcium, Magnesium, and a modified vegetarian. This is not an easy road!
Hi Kathi,
It’s clear that you are not afraid to do your own research and make your own decisions about your health. I am so glad you’re visiting this site – you’ll learn that osteoporosis is not a disease, and that your diagnosis is not cause for alarm and worry. Keep learning!
Kathi, Have you tried physical therapy? It has helped me a lot.
That is not true. Osteoporosis is a bone disease and a good reason for concern.
I am a 57 year old female with congestive heart failure, cardiomyopathy, and chronic afib. I also had surgery in march for an icd-(implanted cardio device). It is a cardiovert heart failure defribrillator. My pcp prescribed fosomax two weeks ago for advanced osteoporosis. Being a heart patient with such severe heart issues I knew I was feeling different but kind of shrugged it off as heat related. I live in Florida and the heat index has been over 100 ea day going on two weeks now. This past sunday I took my second once a week fosomax pill. That night in my sleep I went into total life threatening afib. My defibrillator kicked in for the first time, which is very scary to say the least. It saved my life as I was told before my surgery that my heart couldn’t keep taking these afib episodes which have had me in/out of hospital basically all year. After doing research all week on all biophosphanates I have come to the conclusion that nobody should take these drugs especially people with any heart issue but definitely people with ANY afib issues. I will take my chances with brittle bones jyst like all women before us did. I am posting this to warn others to run from these drugs.
I just turned 73. In 2001 I was taking Fosamax for about 6 months. I had to quit because of serious headaches. I have always been very active. I did jazzercise 3 times a week and I use to mow the yard. I had to stop mowing because of a compression fracture in my vertebrae. That healed and I was able to go back to jazzercise. A year and a half later I had another fracture and I don’t even know what I did to cause it. This past April I had 3 more fractures and again I don’t know how I did it. Just recently I had a procedure done called Kyphoplasty to glue these fractured bones together. Now I am trying to decided if I should go on one of these drugs(which my doctors want me to) or how do I find natural products that will work. I may also need surgery to straighten my spine which I am not sure about that either. Has anyone had any experiences with any of what I am talking about. Number one I am scared. I can’t seem to function as I did 2 months ago. I am use to being active and it is hard for me to ask for help.
Please let me know what you decided about taking medication for osteoporosis. I had the kyphoplasty procedure done in November due to a fractured vertebrae. My doctor wants me to have the Reclast infusion and l am reluctant, especially after reading the side effects. The oral tablets don’t sound any better. I am 74 and am inclined to not do anything.
Was prescribed Boniva after 2 bone density tests 4 years apart. My Dexa were at osteoporosis stage -2.7 Hip and -2.5 spine in 2016 and exactly same numbers in 2012. If things remained stable why would I need Boniva? I work out, stand on my feet working 4 hours a day in studio, am a painter, and am strong and healthy 76 years old. I am beyond reluctant to take this drug. As I was leaving my doctors office she said, “Just don’t fall.”
1. You are practicing medicine without a license.
2. You are making money by preying on these women.
3. I am referring this to the Florida attorney general office.
Hey Turkey Head! Have you not heard of freedom of speech? Go back to your lying life as a DRUG PUSHER for BIG PHARMA! Leave us alone. We didn’t ask for your stupid advice. It’s no good anyway.
Good for you, Amber, for saying it the way it should have been said a long, long time ago.
It is high time that doctors actually show an interest in their patients and stop pushing the pharmaceutical criminal industry. It’s all abt. money, NOT about patients.
Doctors should not get paid until their patients are better, not when they are on 13 drugs a day, 12 of them to eliminate the first one that supposedly would cure the problem the patient first comes in with.
Believe me, the healthiest people are those who do not see doctors. Unless they broke a bone, as that is something that needs to be ‘doctored’. Other than that, doctors are a total disappointment, mostly.
Well as an RN–believe me many Physicians may be “licensed”–but it’s no better than a rabies license. ALL they know is DRUGS. Forget the bones for a minute, we’ll just use the common gallbladder scenario.
Patient: Doc, I’ve got this pain in my right side. (After doing ALL the tests and Xrays for Cardiac (ok, ok, let’s rule the more dangerous out first)–The DOCTOR (must ALWAYS be in capital letters and spoken in hushed awed tones) pronounces it is Gallbladder (GB)
Doc: I’m putting you on this drug (medication) that has these horrible side effects, but I don’t need to know what they are to tell you, that’s the Pharmacist’s job)
Pharm: When you go to Pharmacist with complaint. “Talk with your doctor”
Pt: I still have pain, doc.
Doc: OK try these (Doesn’t tell her to STOP taking the first ones–so now she’s putting 2 poisons in her body)
After 2-3 trials of various meds, the disease has progressed, the pain has worsened, so next stop is SURGEON.
MY (ER/ICU) observation: The MEDICAL docs ONLY know to throw pharmacetical drugs at a problem. (And we have come to be insulted if we walk out of a legitimate appointment without SOMETHING to show for our money, so we create the problem also.)
The only thing they know about them is what the Pharma. Rep has told them in 5 rushed mins. between the doc’s appts. HE only knows what the drug company has told him to say, and the drug companies are out to make money—BILLIONS. So he does not HEAL or CURE your gall bladder.
The SURGEON, only knows YANK it OUT! (Forget that Someone wiser than they happened to put it in there for a purpose (of which we may have learned “some” of it’s purpose–but a long way from knowing “everything.” (Shhh don’t tell them, it shatters their ego)
So neither, medical nor surgical MD, nor pharmaceutical company has CURED or HEALED ANYTHING!! Otherwise you would have ended up with a HEALTHY, FUNCTIONING Gallbladder (Bones, heart, kidneys, pancreas–what EVER you went in for.) So, you see they are so right when they say PRACTICING medicine—same thing they did at 3 yrs. of age with their little doctor kits—except, now they are ARMED with potentially poisonous drugs and Dangerous.
TAKE CHARGE OF YOUR OWN HEALTH. Too much info out there (Yes, you have to wade through the hype–but can not go wrong with a healthy, plant- heavy diet, water, exercise) to trust your life, health and quality of life to anyone else.
To the physician that had 3 steps! My 3 steps for you are #1 Admit you don’t know squat about health, what you know is 5 years of force fed chemicals on how to treat stuff that don’t need treated in most cases. #2 You are a errand boy for the big pharma! #3 You should be glad that there are people that are B.S. analyzers. And yes I was in the medical field for more than 20 years.
I’m confused by all of these comments. I had SEVERE osteoporosis at age 20-21 from a year-long course of high dose prednisone at age 18 to treat Lupus Nephritis. The prednisone cured my kidney issues but left me with awful osteo. I tried Fosamax but it hurt my stomach, so I was switched Miacalcin nasal spray, which I took for about 2 years. It completely reversed my osteoporosis and restored me to the healthy bone density of a woman in her twenties. The only down side is that at the end of it all, I am an inch shorter than I used to be. But still, I considered that a small price to pay to survive Lupus Nephritis and high dose steroid therapy with healthy bones. I’m still 5’9. I’m genuinely confused by this article and comments. My treatment concluded 20 years ago now and I still have perfectly healthy bone density, and feel grateful to the medical advances that made that possible. It’s hard to imagine cutting out gluten would have achieved the same result, tho in fairness I did not try that. I’m not trying to argue, but I think it’s important to portray both sides of the story. Some people are helped by these meds.
I have to have surgery to correct a curve in my spine and to decompress 3 vertebrae. I currently have no disc between the bottom 3 vertebrae. My Osteo doctor said that I’m not losing calcium as fast as she thought I was, but the surgeon wants me to start taking Forteo, just in case my bones aren’t strong enough for surgery. I’ve been taking Fosomax since 2008. During the past 5 years. I’ve had hair loss. I’ve read about the side effects of For two. I’m extremely apprehensive about starting Forteo.
So, do you think that osteoporosis cause hair loss? I took Forteo for about 6 months, but couldn’t afford it any longer. I did have handfuls of hair come out when I brushed it and went through “sticky rollers” like crazy”.
I was prescribed Fosamax, but since I read the research about jaw necrosis, I told my doc I had decided not to take it. He was insulted and walked out of the examination room saying, “You WILL have a broken hip!” This was 8 years ago and I have still never had a broken bone. Once again, diet and exercise are your best bet. Educate yourself.
I hope you have kept your doctor up-to-date on your fracture-free status, Carol! 🙂
My doctor just prescribed this for me. I am so glad I found this forum before I filled the prescription. I was taking Letrezole for breast cancer for the past six years. Bone pain, and then bone loss were two of the biggest side effects. After a month off this drug the bone pain is finally starting to fade a bit. After reading all this I am not going to fill my Boniva prescription. Vitamin D and Calcium will have to be enough. Thanks all for sharing.
I was nearly crippled and knew why after hearing the “possible” side affects from using Boniva that Sally F. rattled off.. It took nearly two years after ceasing Boniva to regain my health. My former usage prevent my receiving dental implants which may be a little known fact.
In desperation I saw a chiropractor and also had laproscopic knee surgery.
To sum it up, “This was a painful and very costly experience due to a drug that was a “preventive”.
I was told to take Vitamin D but found I still cannot tolerate too much. My doctor told me to get out in the sun for 15-20 minutes a day (weather permitting) without using sun screen or wearing long sleeves. I take calcium that contains Vitamin D and a multivitamin that also contains Vitamin D.
I took my first oral dose of Boniva on the 15th of this month. I am now suffering with severe back, hip, thigh and leg pain.
I took Fosamax years ago for about 5 years and quit to have dental work done. Recently I had a bone density test and my doctor was already trying to set me up with an IV of Reclast. He said I had severe osteoporosis in one hip and lower back above the hip. I looked up the drug and decided that I did not want the stuff in my body for a year. He talked me into Boniva. I hope that the side effects from this one time pill will pass and I am NEVER taking it again. I am going to do your program for natural ASAP.
Thank you for being there.
Pattie
The exact things happened to me too. I took my first dose of the generic boniva in the morning following the exact direction. By about 5 PM, I had flu-like symptoms thru the night and vomited too. This was Friday, April 1, 2016. Today is April 3 and I still have heart burns or indigestions. Wished I had read about Boniva before taking the first dose. I can not understand why my doctor prescribed it with all the side effects. Thanks people for writing in.
I have only used it twice. But I have had red rashes and some like water blisters come all over my legs. Also, I have noticed pain in my arm muscles and keeps me up at nights. It really scares me and I am determined that I am not going to take it anymore. I will just start taking Vitamin D and maybe drinking mild more. I am 65 and it may be too late, but it is my body and to tell the truth doctors and pharmecutical plants are all in it together. I know it will tick my doctor off but it’s my body and I do believe God will take care of me.
Amen to that
I hear you! Im 67 almost 68. Been pretty healthy my whole life no broken bones, a milk drinker & veggie lover. Just diagnosed with mild osteoporosis of neck & spine, osteopenia of hips. Can you believe this, my Dr actually told me to take Tums & Fosamax! Im wondering what you did & how you are doing?
My daughter is only 26 and has severe osteoporosis with a compression fracture already. Rheumatologist started her on boniva iv. She had first dose yesterday. Today she has severe muscle and bone pain, headache with severe neck pain. Fever. We questioned that she is not post menopausal , but dr assured us it’s ok
I do not think we will dose again.
I am starting to encourage all of my osteoporosis patients to consider trying a gluten free diet for at least 4 weeks to see if they notice any changes in their energy, digestion, joints and muscles. If there is even a small improvement, they need to continue the diet. It takes a long time to heal the subtle damage to the delicate lining of your small intestine. This damage can lead to poor absorption of vitamins and minerals necessary for healthy bone growth and a lot of other body processes.
This young woman needs extensive studies, including an intestinal biopsy to rule out celiac disease.
Now, Ladies, HERE is a REAL doctor. We thank the Powers that be for those like Robin Bissell! We need thousands more thinking MDs like this.
In response to FedUp, what exactly did Dr Robin say? I’d say she is far behind on her nutritional advise. Gluten is not the problem. It’s the glyphosate that wheat is coated with that causes all the intestinal and absorption problems. It’s a chelator. She advocates extensive studies and biopsies? Really? Dr Robin should be proclaiming the wonders of organic fruits and veggies, grass-fed beef and free-range fowl for her customers. Along side that, she should add organic herbs and vitamins to fill in the gaps. Just what kind of doctor is Robin? Broke? Looking for customers?
This is not rocket science people. We’re all part and parcel of the earth, we’re made from it. By us taking the wholesome nutrients available to replenish ourselves, doctors as we know them, will have to adapt to the natural remedies or fade into black. Extensive studies and biopsies are not part of the game plan. This is the information age. It’s time to get it. Our lives depend on it even more so because “doctors” want to create repeat customers.
I took actonel, fosamax and boniva. My esophagus was damaged, broke my big tow in two places, broke my knee cap in two. These synthetic drugs are dangerous! No one wants to take responsibility and I am sure there are thousands of women who have had similiar experiences.
I am sorry to hear about your experience, Candy, but thank you for sharing with the community. And now you can take heart that your body can heal itself. 🙂
Excruciating hip pain. Too much to live with the spasms are so intense. Getting out of bed is horrific. Please tell me there is treatment
I was just diagnosed with osteoperosis and before my Doc even called me my drugstore called me to let me know that a RX was filled and ready for pick-up. Well I went and got it and the pharmacist started telling me about how to take this drug. Well when I got to work I read the pamphlet and looked it up on line. I do not like the side effects at all!! I’m scared to death to take this crap. Mine is the generic for Fosimax. But looks like it’s all the same stuff with all of the dangers that go with it. What is one to do? Think I will go to the vitamin store and talk with someone there who is knowlegable about this. I’d rather try a different approach.
Hi Kathy,
Wow, they didn’t waste any time with that prescription, did they? Amazing!
There is a lot of information about Fosamax on this site – feel free to search and peruse all the articles on this or any other bone health topic. That should help you get started in your research so you can make an informed decision about how to proceed. 🙂
The best proven and safe way to reverse osteoporosis is Youngevity. No doubt about it. Where I live, I can not buy their products(South America), however the only thing I can do is take calcium citrate 600 mg and magnesium 200mg with vitamin d(not more that this mixture at ounce) twice a day. It must be calcium citrate and must be with magnesium and must be with vit d. DO NOT be afraid that the calcium will be deposited in arteries and joints and everywhere else..the magnesium will NOT allow that to happen and the vit d will definitely help absortium and bioavailability which is 45% in this case.
Also add food rich in calcium, search for them. Limit animal protein and dairy. Those are the main cause of calcium losses. Also eliminate all sodas, but really eliminate then. Limit as possible all processed foods. If you have glutten problems eliminate wheat, barley, rye and oats at ounce. Increase intake of rich calcium foods and forget about sugar, just forget it. All bottled oils, including olive oil are all damaging and toxic, get rid of them. Don’t even think of fried anything….that is the main source of oxidative damage to all organs and DNA stress.
Take antioxidants for the rest of your life…search for them and grasp them, also take enzymes for the rest of your life and probiotics till you dye, just dream about them all day long…..what I mean is… TAKE HOLD OF YOUR HEALTH, information is power and wisdom.
Listen to Dr Glidden, Dr Wallach, DR Greger, Dr Mercola…
Best wishes for you…
Sorry, I maid mean to say that with respect to sugar I referred to refinaned sugar….as some say…Some foods are not the poison….it is the dose. We need sugar to live, but today Americans ingest 800 to 1000 times more than 100 years ago. The main source of sugar are processed foods, sodas and REFINED CARBS.
Sugar coming from whole foods, called glucose is unharmful, but remember the dose…….
I also wanted to say …until you die not dye..
I deeply regret these mistakes…
Blessings to you all…..
Kathy, after taking Boniva for several years, I had not one but 2 femur breaks, plus multiple foot breaks. Stay away!
Please forget all drugs and chemicals. Just follow
Dr Wallach/Dr glidden protocols on minerals,vitamins, aminoacids and essential fatty acids. All natural. Again, watch their videos that will change your life dramatically.
You will never regret it and you have absolutely nothing to loose, rather get your health back.
Best wishes for you….
Robert
Agreed, Robert. This is the protocol to follow.
To your health,
Loraine
I don,t know where to start. I was also prescribed Fosamax, Then Bonevia, then Fortical. All to strengthen my bones. I was told I had degenerated bone disorder after a car wreck was put on Nexium because of acid reflux. What
I was not told was that Nexium does not let you absorb calcium. I was on that for 20 plus yrs. since 1995 by the time 2000 got here I had bone surgery on my neck then low back surgery. By the time of 2005 I had more surgeries on my neck and low back again. About 2010 I broke my left foot across the top a year later I broke the other foot they snapped like twigs. Since then I was told I have Osteoporosis, that,s holes in my bone. I was also told I had kidney damage 2 nd stage. Now 2017 I have bone deterioration in my jaw bone. I just had surgery 2 weeks ago to build up the bone in my lower jaw if that takes I will have to get implants just to have teeth in my jaw. I was not told at the time I was put on Foximax, Bonevia, or Fortical that it depletes your jaw bone but I am very aware of it now because of what I am going through. Believe me this is not cheap.
I was diagnosed with severe osteoporosis @ age 60. I purchase everything organic, eating primarily fresh dark green veggies, fresh fruit, nuts, seeds, and lean organic chicken breast or fish. After 3 years on Boniva, the osteoporosis became worse. I was in severe pain, going from a very active person to hardly able to get out of bed or my office chair. My spine felt like it was “on fire”, I was unable to turn my head, my fingers and toes were becoming severely arthritic, although I had never had arthritis before. I decided it was the Boniva, and immediately discontinued use. Within 30 days, all of the above symptoms disappeared, and I felt like a new woman. The doctors continued to try to push their other osteoporosis drugs on me that have side affects such as cancer. I REFUSED them. I researched on the internet and decided to supply my bones with what God says they need to be healthy. The osteoporosis has improved and stabilized, and I’ve been given a “thumbs up” by my physician. It’s best to do things naturally. Forget the drugs. They’re only being manufactured and sold to make profits for shareholders who do NOT care about our bones.
What an inspiring story, Peggy! Thank you for sharing with the community.
Thank you for sharing your story, Peggy. I have just been diagnosed with osteoporosis & prescribed Boniva. I’m still contemplating if I’m going to take it. The possible side effects scare me! Would you please share what you’re doing naturally to help the osteoporosis? Thank you in advance for any info you can offer.
Please avoid taking these medications that are supposed to build your bone because it will destroy your jaw bone belive me I learned the hard way. Now I,m going through oral surgery just to build my jaw bone. I even went on an anti inflammatory diet just to help restore some of the damage these medications have done. Lots of blending fresh vegetables everyday. This helped with inflammation but not the bone damage.
I just took my first dose of the generic Boniva. I am fine until about 2:00 in the afternoon and then I get severe pain in my back, arm and joints. Is this normal? Why should I take a medication that makes me feel horrible. I was having no symptoms before. So frustrated!
Hello Shelley
I know exactly how you feel, you are not alone.
I do not know what what condition you have but biphosphonates are never the right way as I can tell by Vivian Goldschmidt’s excellent articles, much research and first hand experience. Did the same booboo one month ago.
The symptoms are normal but should wear off relatively quickly… this is the acute phase
the second phase takes a little longer – the part where the body get’s rid of the drug.
So the good news is, it won’t last forever and your body will recover fully as far as I know.
My advice would be to stop immediatly and look for alternative ways to cure your bones naturally.
I am no doctor, but i hope this helps.
By the way, if you feel like chatting/writing let me know 🙂
All the best.
Bogdan
Hello.
I know this possibly is an older article, but I hope someone can answer me.
I have received a single 6mg ibandronic acid injection as a therapy against a bone marrow edema.
I feel devestated after reading so much about the drug.
Even though my bone marrow edema seems to give me less pain at the moment.
How soon does this specific drug get out of my system/bone?
regards
b
Dear Bogdan,
That’s a good question!
The half-life of bisphosphonates is approximately 10 years, meaning that it takes 10 years for the body to get rid of half of the drug that attached itself to bone. As you know, these drugs stop normal bone metabolism, namely bone remodeling; but as it gets released and less is attached to bone, normal bone remodeling resumes at one point. The question is, When will this happen? As with everything else in the human body, this varies with each individual. According to a Harvard Medical School study (also mentioned in the book), pre-drug bone metabolism is restored to “normal” levels in an average of five (5) years.
So the next question is, when will YOU get there? Nobody can answer this, but rest assured that at one point this WILL happen and you will be noticing some improvement. 🙂
So be patient, follow your own bone health “philosophy,” don’t let brainwashed doctors interfere with your own decisions!
Hello Vivian.
Thank you so much for your reply.
I have to add that I am 26 and have been very active in sports up to this point which has always been coupled with a healthy nutrition. ( My girlfriend is a nurse – so that helps too 🙂 )
I will certainly take a break for at least 1 month now – then gradually beginning to swim again, taking it slow – which I guess would be the best to begin with ? – what do you think about that.
But I will be patient, and I am very happy to hear that this mistake will be forgiven by time.
Unfortuneley I have been on Boniva for 10 years. Can I reverse the harmful effects of this drug or is it too late? I have decided to go off it due the negative things I’ve heard about it. Thank you.
Hi Diane,
It’s never too late to stop taking osteoporosis drugs! The main way the body rids itself of bisphosphonates like Boniva is via the kidneys. The half-life of bisphosphonates is about 10 years, but normal bone remodeling usually resumes long before that. As to when that will happen for you, it is impossible to predict; but it will happen at some point once you stop the Boniva. 🙂
I also was on various forms of these drugs for 10 years and my scans showed little if any improvement of bone density. When asked how long should I remain on it- my Dr. said “for life”. I stopped after speaking with my dentist and others. Would rather do what I can naturally, and live with thinner, healthier bones if necessary.
Hello Diane,
I’m very curious about “how” Boniva is working for you now as the only reason you want to stop is because of what you’ve heard. If you have been taking Boniva for 10 years you must be doing ok.
This is my opinion and please everyone try to understand if at all possible that these drugs might work for some and not for others. I would like to hear any positive outcomes from the drg(s) too. Diane could be one of those ppl. I’m just curios as to why its working for her and not others. Or is really working Diane?
Curios George…
I’ve been diagnosed with osteoporosis after years ago being told I had osteopenia. In researching my options, I’m most interested in an FDA-approved medical food named Fosteum PLUS. Anyone have any experience with it? It seems to have little downside, and potential benefits well worth pursuing. A very real possible alternative, at initial viewing.
Hi Eileen,
Before you start taking anything else, even if it is FDA-approved, I would highly recommend looking into Youngevity. With these products you are basically putting minerals and nutrients back into your body that you are deficient of, which is really the cause of most ailments and diseases. Not only have I seen what taking these products has done for my little family, but I have seen and heard so many other amazing testimonies of others who are a part of Youngevity. My mother has osteopenia and is about to start taking youngevity products in hopes that it will reverse hers. Check out my website at heathermilton.my90forlife.com. There is so much to browse through and check out!
I was diagnosed now with osteoporosis. I had osteopenia diagnosed yrs ago and I was put on Fosomax but couldn’t take because of gastritis. My doctor now wants me to take Boniva. I currently have gastritis and maybe a peptic ulcer. She didn’t seem to care, was really pushing the Boniva. I am so confused. I have been quite ill with gastrointestinal problems for 3 yrs now and am having a hard time. I was taken off of my ace inhibitor for blood pressure because of intestinal angioedema about 1 yr ago. I am so afraid to take this medication and end up in hospital. I am tired of meds making me sick.
Hey Judith! I would highly recommend looking into Youngevity. So many people who have taken Youngevity products have experienced some amazing results, even coming off of medications because they are basically putting minerals and nutrients back into their bodies. Which in turn is allowing their bodies to work and function the way our bodies should. I have been on Youngevity, as well as my husband and children, for going on 3 months now, and I have seen amazing results with our health. I turned my dad onto it because he suffers from diabetes as well as other ailments, and my mother is about to start in hopes it will help with her migraines and her osteopenia. Check out my website at heathermilton.my90forlife.com, and you can even look up youtube videos on Dr Joel Wallach who started Youngevity, and Dr Peter Glidden who backs it up. Good luck and God bless!
Not surprised that your dr didn’t seem interested in your chronic GI problems when trying to push Boniva. Western medicine tends to compartmentalize medical issues. Thus, a GI dr doesn’t want to hear about how PPIs can cause osteoporosis, an endocrinologist expresses no interest in how patients can get the massive dose of calcium from food (not supplements) that he advises is necessary … and so on and so forth. That’s why patients must, in effect, be their own doctors, relying on themselves to raise questions about potential drug interactions, side effects from a med being prescribed for one condition worsening another condition, etc. Then the doctors rail against patients spending “too much time on the internet” when its the doctors’ ignorance and failure to consider “the whole person” that have led to the need for patients to do their own research.
Your comments are so true as they are with so many new drugs put on the market almost on a daily basis.I cannot understand how the FDA allows such drugs on the market when they cause cancer and even death, the pharmaceutical companies are out of control in this country and so is the government.
What can I recommend to my wife instead of Boniva. She started taking it 2 days agol and experencing all the side effects noted in the responses. What drug would you recommend in it’s place?
I highly recommend looking into Youngevity. I have heard some amazing testimonies from so many people who start seeing amazing results after getting onto youngevity products. We are all so nutrient deficient, which is really the cause of so many ailments and diseases. So basically, with Youngevity, they are encouraging a healthy diet, as well as, supplementing with minerals(what our bodies are in major need of). You can also look up Dr Joel Wallach, who started Youngevity, and Dr Peter Glidden who backs it up 100%….there are tons of youtube videos of them.
My sister took Fosamax, Boniva and Reclast for years. Seven years ago she broke both femurs and an arm. Now, seven years later she tripped last week and shattered the right ankle, right elbow and left femur below where her metal rod which helped support that leg is still in place. She is 71. Do not take those drugs. I did and will never take them again. Strange thing, they called her after a bone density scan a few weeks ago and told her that she didn’t have osteoporosis any more. She is now recovering in a nursing home.
Here’s to a speedy recovery for your sister, Jerrie! It’s great to hear that her bones are in better shape after stopping the drugs. 🙂
My story is this….my mother, a 67 year old, fit and active woman…super young in many ways, had her 3rd Prolia shot in November of last year. By Christmas Eve, she was in SEVERE pain…all over. Burning pain everywhere. At that point there was no connection between the Prolia and the pain. She went to several doctors to find out what the heck could it be. To make a LoNg story short, mom called an out-of-town doctor friend to see what she could recommend for the pain. After some research Dr. Linda concluded it’s the Prolia. There’s no relief for the pain….NONE. And it will be 1 full year before it’s out of her system. The good news is she has some “good” days with just aches…but when the pain is bad she can’t do anything or go anywhere. Mom and I have warned everyone we know to avoid this poisonous shot at all costs. Mom has concluded a broken hip/hip replacement would have been easier than any of what she’s been going through these past few months. BTW, she has contacted the FDA to implore them to take Prolia off the market. Sadly it won’t happen anytime soon.
Sincerely,
Lisa Speagle
My mom took bonviva for almost 18 months , now she has cancer of an aggressive type, this is the only medication she took, with a very healthy food and way of living and no family history in cancer, I can’t think of any other cause,, god knows!!!
I am so sorry to hear about your mother, Ba. 🙁 I wish your family well at this difficult time.
Thank you Vivian for your good feelings
What type of cancer did she had?
Sorry Silvia for my very late reply , she had breast cancer
My mother took Boniva for many years and it caused a severe ulcer, so severe that she had 5 blood transfusions. I had her stop it immediately and told her to take natural progesterone cream, after her next bone density scan she had a significant improvement in the density of her bones which she never had with Boniva. Just take transdermal progesterone cream (you rub it on) and it is all natural. I even use it and my husband uses it for any swelling of the prostrate.
How often do you rub the progesterone cream on and how much do you use for your bones? Do you rub it all over or just in one area? What is in this cream that works does it really help reverse the bone loss?
Thank You
Tim
I’m not promoting Boniva or any other drug/supplement, I just want to clarify misinformation is some of the comments.
Our body needs calcium in our bloodstream for all kinds of reasons, but too detailed for this forum. When our BLOOD calcium level is low, osteoclasts are told to break down our bones to release calcium into our bloodstream. If Boniva is meant to stop the osteoclasts, then it is stopping them from breaking down our bones. It’s not helping to build our bones, but preventing further deterioration. The body still needs more calcium, therefore, calcium supplements or a calcium rich diet are needed.
After a certain age, about 30, we can only maintain our bones (no more growth/building). To do this, we need weight bearing exercise (walk 30 min. 5 days/week), and plenty of calcium and vit. D in our diets, naturally or through supplements, to get into our bloodstream and keep our body from sending those osteoclasts after our bone calcium.
Thank you for that information, Paula!
It would be nice if someone knowledgeable could talk about how Americans, who take the most calcium supps and eat the most meat and dairy in their diet, still have the greatest calcium deficiencies. Other countries, that eat more vegetables and less meat and dairy, seem to have less osteoporosis.
Maybe, women in other countries are not being diagnosed. My problem with the drug is I cannot afford the price. Do you know when a generic may be on the market? These drug companies are making a killing. It should not be cost prohibitive to be healthy.
Yes there is a generic for Boniva. Ask your pharmacist or doctor for the name.
Calcium, calcium, calcium.
Why does no-one ever mention magnesium?
As for not being able to build after about 30, that notion may be built on studies of normal Western populations. Normal Western populations are not healthy. We are an historic anomaly, and an unhealthy one at that.
Dairy is not the only source of calcium, and with all the hormones and antibiotics in conventional dairy, not the safest. Rather have lots of green leafy veg. Loads of calcium and magnesium.
Good protein intake (especially meat) is also advisable. The *net* effect of increased meat intake is increased bone formation. You lose a bit more bone when you eat more meat, but you gain a bigger bit more bone. And you’ll need the extra protein to sustain lean muscle mass for your hard workouts sprinting, hiking, lifting bags and logs and all that 🙂
Now why would you want to do that? For the simple reason that putting load on bones *strengthens* them. They need exercise just as much as muscles do.
Listen to what Dr. Peter Glidden ND has to say about Boniva.
Start video around the 3 min mark.
https://youtu.be/_FgUHmoR2DM
If you are interested in what he is talking about ask me.
I took Boniva once. Within a few minutes, I felt like I had bronchitis. I was coughing and trying to clear my lungs of fluid. I got nauseated and weak. After sitting up for 3-4 hours, I went to bed and had the “flu like symptoms”. I obviously never had the flu because I was sicker than I’ve ever been. That lasted roughly 48 hrs. When I finally started feeling better, I swore I would never take that again. I didn’t know it wasn’t over. Within a week I started trying to relieve constipation. Not ever having to deal with this before, I ended up sick and impacted, rolling around on the floor while on vacation. NEVER will Boniva pass my lips again,
I think and I confirm that Sally Field is true in all her experiences and observations about Bonviva that IT IS VERY HARMFUL TO THE BONES. My doctor prescribed me with Bonviva, I took it three days ago and now I am experiencing bad feelings, my heart seemingly less functions and that I experience chest pain, heartburn and worst as if I stumble everytime I stand and walk. Only 1 tablet I took three days ago and the next take would be next month and I WILL TELL MY DOCTOR THAT I SHALL NEVER TAKE IT ANYMORE. I FEEL VERY SICK NOW. PLEASE BEWARE OF THIS DRUG. IT DESTROYS THE BODY, THE BONES instead of rebuilding it. Again, please beware!
I read all your comments about this Save our Bones program but no one have said that after this program the bones are better. Have anyone probed this works? Sorry Vivian, I really want your program to be good, I need it! i am 49 years old and been recently diagnosed with osteoporosis. I had my first Boniva IV last week and I am with tachicardia all day. I recently read this can be a side effect of Boniva. And after reading about femur fractures and jaw problems I really do not want to have another IV. But How can you assure me that your program will work? What if I left tht Boniva and do your program and in one year when I have my new tests they show that my bones are worst?? I am really worried. I need to do the best for my bones. (Sorry for my english, I speak Spanish)
I was alarmed when I first looked at the e-mail as it looked as if you were endorsing Boniva and Sally Field’s ad. I was already aware of the undesirable effects of using Boniva and stopped taking it shortly after having it prescribed. Instead I have been taking a natural supplement, which I hope is having the desired results, though I have not had recent testing.
Your altered ad is good . . . providing one goes that far and actually reads it.
I am 56 and have osteoporosis. I have taken fosomax for three years but have not taken it now for 4 months because of everything I am hearing about it. I run, lift weights and take many different exercise classes now and aways have so I was so surprised when I was diagnosed. So I am not sure what to do now. I go to my Dr for my yearly check in January, what should I do?
Well I read the article,I rather prefer to listen to people in the know sp. Vivian because she cured herself & did research & one we all can count on.I can never wholly trust GPs as they prefer you to take them blindly & always have high praises for the drugs claiming’all drugs got side affects you will be ok with this’. I rather have natural remedies that are good for me & family.
I was at a diabetic clinic last week, & nurse tells me that doctors need to be educated,quite right too.We have only one body,one life it’s time we take matters into our own hands when it’s come to dangerous drugs.
after 30, you stop building bones.
you just maintain excising bone strenght by excersizing and supplements.
taking boniva does not build new bones, it just stops the loss of bones.
your existing bones become more denser .
sally fieds is incorrect when saying asteoblast cell are building new bones after osteoclast cells remove old bones.
my ddoctor told me, after 30 men stops building new bones
What are your scientific qualifications that would lead me to put any credibility into what you say? My husband, a dentist, has concerns about long-term use of bisphosphenates but I’m sure you know that. The physician at Northwestern who treats me for osteoporosis will not allow me to be on more than 5 years (I think). Since I’ve already broken a wrist and since I live in an area in which snow and black ice make me fear another fall, I take Reclast. Again, I would be curious to know the scientific basis of your opinion.
Thank you for the commercial. I refused to use a drug for osteoporosis, too. More people should see this.